James D. Parra wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/17/de_raadt_channels_ballmer/
~James
Interesting, Theo rekons IBM don't know a good OS when they see one. BSD has always shouted sour grapes, nothing new, a long YAWN is my reaction. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
On 6/17/05, Sid Boyce <sboyce@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
James D. Parra wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/17/de_raadt_channels_ballmer/
~James
Interesting, Theo rekons IBM don't know a good OS when they see one. BSD has always shouted sour grapes, nothing new, a long YAWN is my reaction. Regards
Yes, but he was whining in Fortune Mag this week as well. And PHB's read that rag and believe the things in it. I hope they don't believe him. - Ben -- "There is no need to teach that stars can fall out of the sky and land on a flat Earth in order to defend religious faith."
Ben Rosenberg wrote:
On 6/17/05, Sid Boyce <sboyce@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
James D. Parra wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/17/de_raadt_channels_ballmer/
~James
Interesting, Theo rekons IBM don't know a good OS when they see one. BSD has always shouted sour grapes, nothing new, a long YAWN is my reaction. Regards
Yes, but he was whining in Fortune Mag this week as well. And PHB's read that rag and believe the things in it. I hope they don't believe him.
- Ben
Of course, but PHB's also talk to the likes of IBM and demand reference accounts when making decisions, also being ultra cautious people, they also suspect rants. Many install Linux in their shops without reference to the likes of IBM?Novell/RedHat and I doubt many of them have heard of Theo or BSD. Many have shunned BSD and Linux would never have got started if BSD was not seen as a sanctimonious and cleverer-than-thou elitist clique unwilling to accept contributions from lower forms of life. Theo has confirmed in the Forbes article what we always suspected he thought, that Linux is developed by lower life forms and used only by lower life forms. Another good read of a MS salesman putting the frighteners up a PHB with his own lies atop "Get The Lies". http://lobby4linux.com/WordPress/?p=18 I'm still waiting for the article that will claim that Linux will rot your teeth, eat your children and make any surviving children cook and eat their parents - it can't be far off. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
On Saturday 18 June 2005 10:08, Sid Boyce wrote:
Of course, but PHB's also talk to the likes of IBM and demand reference accounts when making decisions, also being ultra cautious people, they also suspect rants. Many install Linux in their shops without reference to the likes of IBM?Novell/RedHat and I doubt many of them have heard of Theo or BSD. Many have shunned BSD and Linux would never have got started if BSD was not seen as a sanctimonious and cleverer-than-thou elitist clique unwilling to accept contributions from lower forms of life. Theo has confirmed in the Forbes article what we always suspected he thought, that Linux is developed by lower life forms and used only by lower life forms. Another good read of a MS salesman putting the frighteners up a PHB with his own lies atop "Get The Lies". http://lobby4linux.com/WordPress/?p=18 I'm still waiting for the article that will claim that Linux will rot your teeth, eat your children and make any surviving children cook and eat their parents - it can't be far off. Regards Sid. --
If i was tempted to try BSD (which I'm not because I'd have to rearrange all my partitions to get an empty primary partition to put it on) I'm certainly not now. Mike
On 18/06/05, michael norman <michaeltnorman@ukfsn.org> wrote:
On Saturday 18 June 2005 10:08, Sid Boyce wrote:
Of course, but PHB's also talk to the likes of IBM and demand reference accounts when making decisions, also being ultra cautious people, they also suspect rants. Many install Linux in their shops without reference to the likes of IBM?Novell/RedHat and I doubt many of them have heard of Theo or BSD. Many have shunned BSD and Linux would never have got started if BSD was not seen as a sanctimonious and cleverer-than-thou elitist clique unwilling to accept contributions from lower forms of life. Theo has confirmed in the Forbes article what we always suspected he thought, that Linux is developed by lower life forms and used only by lower life forms. Another good read of a MS salesman putting the frighteners up a PHB with his own lies atop "Get The Lies". http://lobby4linux.com/WordPress/?p=18 I'm still waiting for the article that will claim that Linux will rot your teeth, eat your children and make any surviving children cook and eat their parents - it can't be far off. Regards Sid. --
If i was tempted to try BSD (which I'm not because I'd have to rearrange all my partitions to get an empty primary partition to put it on) I'm certainly not now.
Mike
The interesting bit of the article is this - "It's the vendors, not the developers, who need to slow down, and come out with carefully de-bugged and polished combinations of kernels and applications that work together well on a broad variety of hardware. No one would build an automobile with the latest engine, the latest transmission, the latest fuel system, without knowing whether or not they work well together. Yet a Linux vendor thinks nothing of literally slapping together the latest releases of every available component and calling it a distro." It may be unpalatable but if you step back and think hard about it this is a sensible enough paragraph. As for the rest of hte article though :-) -- Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
Kevanf1 wrote:
On 18/06/05, michael norman <michaeltnorman@ukfsn.org> wrote:
On Saturday 18 June 2005 10:08, Sid Boyce wrote:
Of course, but PHB's also talk to the likes of IBM and demand reference accounts when making decisions, also being ultra cautious people, they also suspect rants. Many install Linux in their shops without reference to the likes of IBM?Novell/RedHat and I doubt many of them have heard of Theo or BSD. Many have shunned BSD and Linux would never have got started if BSD was not seen as a sanctimonious and cleverer-than-thou elitist clique unwilling to accept contributions from lower forms of life. Theo has confirmed in the Forbes article what we always suspected he thought, that Linux is developed by lower life forms and used only by lower life forms. Another good read of a MS salesman putting the frighteners up a PHB with his own lies atop "Get The Lies". http://lobby4linux.com/WordPress/?p=18 I'm still waiting for the article that will claim that Linux will rot your teeth, eat your children and make any surviving children cook and eat their parents - it can't be far off. Regards Sid. --
If i was tempted to try BSD (which I'm not because I'd have to rearrange all my partitions to get an empty primary partition to put it on) I'm certainly not now.
Mike
The interesting bit of the article is this -
"It's the vendors, not the developers, who need to slow down, and come out with carefully de-bugged and polished combinations of kernels and applications that work together well on a broad variety of hardware. No one would build an automobile with the latest engine, the latest transmission, the latest fuel system, without knowing whether or not they work well together. Yet a Linux vendor thinks nothing of literally slapping together the latest releases of every available component and calling it a distro."
It may be unpalatable but if you step back and think hard about it this is a sensible enough paragraph. As for the rest of hte article though :-)
I was just about to quote the same paragraph; you beat me to it. I'll add this one additional paragraph that preceeds it; the last phrase says it all. The Linux development system is not the problem; the vendor release schedule is the problem. You can almost hear the marketing teams asking, will 2.6.12 be out by the time we're ready to release? If a vendor would ever dare to show the patience and the confidence to do with Linux what Apple did with BSD, Microsoft would soon be on the ropes. -- David C. Johanson Linux Counter # 116410 Powered by SuSE Linux 7.3 People who behold a phenomenon will often extend their thinking beyond it; people who merely hear about the phenomenon will not be moved to think at all. -- Goethe
On Saturday 18 June 2005 01:17, Sid Boyce wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/17/de_raadt_channels_ballmer/
Just who the hell is this CHEESEY Little person/creep "Theo De Raadt" sounds like something you scrape off of your shoes before you go in the house. Hey Theo if and note i said IF BSD is so flaming good then why is ir not used a lot more instead of bieng the preserve of a few and hardley ever heard about then PAL .. Yea right . pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:-------
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