Re: Re: Re: Re: [opensuse] redistributing opensuse openoffice package
From everywhere, Yast, susewatcher, openoffice, wallpapers, etc etc. Is a trademark
Novell is allowing to use his trademarks property only with suse linux with out modifications. If you are doing modifications or want to distribute another piece of software, then you need to _ask permission to Novell_ because the distribution of software separately from suse is not cover but this licence.
So either have Novell permision or remove the trademarks. Isn't it? Thanks, jordi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
2006/10/5, Jordi Massaguer i Pla
From everywhere, Yast, susewatcher, openoffice, wallpapers, etc etc. Is a trademark
Novell is allowing to use his trademarks property only with suse linux with out modifications. If you are doing modifications or want to distribute another piece of software, then you need to _ask permission to Novell_ because the distribution of software separately from suse is not cover but this licence.
So either have Novell permision or remove the trademarks. Isn't it?
That right, those two are you choices. -- Marcel Mourguiart --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/6/06, Marcel Mourguiart
2006/10/5, Jordi Massaguer i Pla
: Novell is allowing to use his trademarks property only with suse linux with out modifications. If you are doing modifications or want to distribute another piece of software, then you need to _ask permission to Novell_ because the distribution of software separately from suse is not cover but this licence.
So either have Novell permision or remove the trademarks. Isn't it?
That right, those two are you choices.
You do realise that for all GPL software you have explicit permission from Novell, in writing, to copy and distribute verbatim copies. If Novell has included their trademarks that does not restrict your rights under the GPL, if Novell is claiming anything else they are in breach of the GPL, as it does not allow anybody to impose restrictions on recipients exercise of the rights granted by the GPL. The GPL of course doesn't apply to anything outside the software, so there are other trade laws in many countries that would apply on how you then can then legally describe these distributions without breaching Novells rights in their trademarks and patterns. IANAL, Plodo Peter Flodin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 23 October 2006 00:29, Peter Flodin wrote:
You do realise that for all GPL software you have explicit permission from Novell, in writing, to copy and distribute verbatim copies.
Where do you see this?
If Novell has included their trademarks that does not restrict your rights under the GPL, if Novell is claiming anything else they are in breach of the GPL, as it does not allow anybody to impose restrictions on recipients exercise of the rights granted by the GPL.
This is wrong. Trademarks have nothing whatever to do with copyright, no copyright license can ever give you the right to use a trademark. In fact, companies *have* to protect trademarks, or they will lose them. Red Hat does the same in their packages (witness the repackaging effort done by CentOS) You also can't redistribute firefox and call it firefox without permission from mozilla (witness the Debian debacle). There is a special compilation switch in firefox that will remove all instances of the name "firefox" from the program You also can't redistribute Debian stuff using the name "Debian" without permission from Debian Trademarks are wildly different from copyrights, copyrights always apply no matter what, but trademarks have to be defended or you will lose them. So no, having to purge the software from Novell trademarks is not a GPL violation --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Anders Johansson
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Jordi Massaguer i Pla
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Marcel Mourguiart
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Peter Flodin