I agree with you Ron. I surely hope SuSE doesn't switch to RedHat like packaging, I really really really dislike RedHat's high prices for free software they (for the most part) didn't create. I thank Michael Hasenstein from SuSE for his explanation of pricing, which sound fine, although it still sounds like it isn't as good as the old $29 6-CD full manual package. -Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" =====================

-----Original Message----- From: Ron Heron [mailto:heroron@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 11:05 PM To: tbutler@uninetsolutions.com; SuSE Mailing List Subject: Re: [SLE] LenZ or other SuSE Employees- Please let the loyal SuSE users know what's up!!! (was RE: [SLE] SuSE 7 Deluxe)

Ok, I wasn't going to bite on this one, but now Tim hit a soft spot with me. I personally feel that SuSE is the premier distro, having used others in the past. I have spent money on 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 6.3, and recently, 6.4. So, SuSE has $150 of mine - and worth every penny. Now, I think (flame retardent - I said I think, not know) that Red Hat and Caldera are vacuums for unwielding new users willing to spend cash for the unknown. Had all the newbies out ther realized that the most complete distro - one that RH sells for $70 - $100 is available from SuSE for $30, they would have jumped. Oh well, let time, experience, reputation, and performance be the judge - then SuSE will have market share - without moving to the "you get what you pay for, since you pay more for us, we must be more" marketing scheme. So, I don't want to see SuSE turn into RH, or worse, closer to Microsoft.

Here's a parting thought - when I bought my 6.4, it was right next to MS 2000 Server Edition priced at $999! I laughed all the way to the cash register. I hope I, in the future, am not paying $999 for GPL software. Because then, the 50+ hour download will be worth it!!

Ron Heron --- "Timothy R. Butler" wrote:

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It's disappointing to see the distro going like this, however, price is my main concern, so I must ask... How do those German prices compare to that of previous versions? My main fear is that even if they are the same, retailers might start charging more for the Professional just so they can charge over $20 for the Personal (right now, what will become the Pro edition costs $29 at most retailers I know of).

I sure hope it doesn't become like Caldera and RedHat where the version you want costs as much as Windows (even Microsoft charges only $20 for minor updates). Doesn't make sense paying too much for a free operating system...

-Tim

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-----Original Message----- From: Stefan Troeger [mailto:stefan.troeger@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de] Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 6:09 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE 7 Deluxe

Hi,

On Fri, Jul 28 2000 at 19:32 +0200, Des Aubery wrote:

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What will be the difference between the new SuSE release 7 - Standard & Deluxe versions?

According to a SuSE add in c't, there will be two versions, Personal and Professional. The first one has 3 CDs, 3 newbie-compatible handbooks (installation, configuration, applications) and 60 days of installation support. The Professional version comes with 6 CDs or 1 DVD, 4 manuals and 90 days of installation support. Personal'll cost 89 DM, Professional 129 DM, the update SuSE Linux --> Professional 79 DM.

Ciao, Stefan

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