[opensuse] Re: Carelessness busts Linux security
Le 12/12/2009 07:15, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Ok, the whole thing may be more dangerous for the inexperienced administrator, but what does it then become for the ordinary punter, the Joe-in-street, like myself? "Cataclysmic", "Disasterous", "Calamitous"? :-)
do you know most data lost are lost by the users errors? just deleting valuable data by mistake? of course when inexperienced one can do disasters. The worst disaster I know is HDD failure when one have no backup at all, and this is very frequent (and happened to me too, in early times :-() The user that want to learn data processing can only do this the hard way. That said... this is true for everything in the life. Young people never learn if not by personal experience...
The folk using MS/Apple have a thriving industry creating for their users software which is supposed to protect them from all sorts of nasties.
supposedx is the good word, because they fail doing so
Is AppArmor designed to be the beginning of such protection for oS (I cannot find any dox for AppArmor in 11.2 for what it is supposed to do)?
search better :-) /usr/share/doc/packages/apparmor-docs/ apparmor is a supervisor that monitor the applications activity and forgive them to do unexpected things. is that necessary, I don't know jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://news.opensuse.org/2009/04/13/people-of-opensuse-jean-daniel-dodin/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/12/09 19:18, jdd-gmane wrote:
Le 12/12/2009 07:15, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Ok, the whole thing may be more dangerous for the inexperienced administrator, but what does it then become for the ordinary punter, the Joe-in-street, like myself? "Cataclysmic", "Disasterous", "Calamitous"? :-)
do you know most data lost are lost by the users errors? just deleting valuable data by mistake?
of course when inexperienced one can do disasters. The worst disaster I know is HDD failure when one have no backup at all, and this is very frequent (and happened to me too, in early times :-()
The user that want to learn data processing can only do this the hard way.
That said... this is true for everything in the life. Young people never learn if not by personal experience...
Doesn't really answer the question, does it? :-) Simply stating, for example, that 'my father is bigger than your father' does not throw any light on why 'my father' keeps behaving in a certain manner :-) . And in this case no one is talking about data loss from "HDD failure" let alone "young people"... :-) .
The folk using MS/Apple have a thriving industry creating for their users software which is supposed to protect them from all sorts of nasties.
supposedx is the good word, because they fail doing so
Is AppArmor designed to be the beginning of such protection for oS (I cannot find any dox for AppArmor in 11.2 for what it is supposed to do)?
search better :-)
/usr/share/doc/packages/apparmor-docs/
apparmor is a supervisor that monitor the applications activity and forgive them to do unexpected things. is that necessary, I don't know
jdd
Hmmm, I did such a search using mc (Midnight Commander) on "apparmor" but it turned up nothing of any significance. BUT, I now realise that I should have - and will from now on - added an "*" after "apparmor". Doing so I have now the docs. Thanks for the "push" re this 'misadventure' of mine :-) . BC -- If you don't succeed you run the risk of failure. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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