On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:20:02 +0200 Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:

Op dinsdag 18 oktober 2016 19:46:58 CEST schreef Dave Howorth :

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On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 00:28:10 +0100

Dave Howorth wrote:

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I'm just trying to use audio on a relatively new PC (so I can hear a utoob video) and just get silence. What's the best source for a walk through of the steps needed to configure audio on Leap 42.1? The only pages I've found are for earlier releases so I don't know whether they are valid.

YaST says I have:

Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller

neither of which are configured.

Apologies for replying to myself, but nobody at all knows anything about configuring audio? I find that surprising!

Cheers, Dave

Output of lspci | grep -i audio You'll see something like this 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) then pick the last bit of the pci no ( 1b.0 here, replace by your findings ) and do lspci -vvv -s 1b.0| grep -i driver On my laptop it returns Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel If this returns a driver is in use, you should be able to configure the sound through yast.

Thanks for the reply. That command produces exactly the same output on my machine. So my question is HOW do I configure the sound through yast? (it isn't obvious to me) I was hoping there would be some instructions somewhere? Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 03:15:45 +0200 "Carlos E. R." wrote:

On 2016-10-19 00:01, Dave Howorth wrote:

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Thanks for the reply. That command produces exactly the same output on my machine. So my question is HOW do I configure the sound through yast? (it isn't obvious to me)

I was hoping there would be some instructions somewhere?

https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/startup/html/book.opensuse.start...

Thanks, I hadn't seen that page, but it doesn't tell me HOW. Why does YaST show two sound Card Models and how do I know which one is correct (assuming only one is?)? And why do neither produce any noise when I press Test? I'll try to use the info Felix provided to see if I get any further. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Dave Howorth composed on 2016-10-19 07:46 (UTC+0100):

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/startup/html/book.opensuse.start...

Thanks, I hadn't seen that page, but it doesn't tell me HOW. Why does YaST show two sound Card Models and how do I know which one is correct (assuming only one is?)? And why do neither produce any noise when I press Test? I'll try to use the info Felix provided to see if I get any further.

Skip YaST and do as Takashi wrote - get sound to work running as root in multi-user.target first. Then if you can't get sound in graphical.target, there's something wrong with your DE/WM, not with basic sound configuration. If you need to continue the thread, include alsa-info.sh output. Knowing your setup (e.g. with/without pulseaudio installed; specific motherboard chipset and/or model, etc.) beyond ...E3-1200 v3/4th Gen...8 Series/C220... might help someone here help you. Was this motherboard designed before 42.1 was released a year ago? Do you have a separate gfxcard in a PCIe slot with its own audio on HDMI out? Are you using analog speakers instead of an HDMI connection? Sound configuration is only simple if it works automagically, which I don't think happens very often if HDMI is present in the machine. :-p -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Istvan Gabor [10-19-16 10:33]:

Felix Miata írta:

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Skip YaST and do as Takashi wrote - get sound to work running as root in multi-user.target first. Then if you can't get sound in graphical.target, there's something wrong with your DE/WM, not with basic sound configuration.

Hi, Felix:

I am interested in this as well because I had audio setup problems too. I looked at the bug report and comment you mentioned:

Bug 954824 - [yast2-sound] Changing any configuration disables sound card https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954824

There and here you write "get sound to work running as root in multi-user.target first". What this exactly means and how can I do it? you know who root is su -

multi-user.target equates to runlevel 3, ie: non-graphical systemctl isolate multi-user -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

sdm composed on 2016-10-19 21:41 (UTC-0700):

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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multi-user.target equates to runlevel 3, ie: non-graphical systemctl isolate multi-user

Just as an experiment, I ran `systemctl isolate multi-user` on my fully updated TW box in a Plasma Konsole window as root. I lost all tty's and the screen went fully black. Any ctrl+alt+F key combination didn't switch to any tty. Ended up having to press the reset button. I tried to reproduce a second and third time, but couldn't. Any ideas? systemd bug?

Only try to isolate from a vtty login, and best to log out of X session first unless you don't care about settings or window and app states when the session is killed. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

sdm composed on 2016-10-20 00:34 (UTC-0700):

Felix Miata wrote:

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Only try to isolate from a vtty login, and best to log out of X session first unless you don't care about settings or window and app states when the session is killed.

Okay but that shouldn't mean that I lose all tty's if I run the command within a graphical session and the PC can't be used until pressing reset, should it? Because that is exactly what happened yet I wasn't able to reproduce it on test #2 and 3, and again this was on a Tumbleweed box.

Of course it shouldn't, but that was in Plasma 5, right? It's so loaded with booby traps (previously unexposed bugs and known but unfixed bugs, particularly upstream QT bugs) I don't know how anyone can depend on it as a primary DE. Have you looked in your /var/lib/systemd/coredump/? Mine are rarely empty. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

sdm composed on 2016-10-20 01:48 (UTC-0700):

Felix Miata wrote:

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Of course it shouldn't, but that was in Plasma 5, right? It's so loaded with booby traps (previously unexposed bugs and known but unfixed bugs, particularly upstream QT bugs) I don't know how anyone can depend on it as a primary DE. Have you looked in your /var/lib/systemd/coredump/? Mine are rarely empty.

Yes it is Plasma 5. And there is actually a file core.X.0.533......xz in /var/lib/systemd/coredump/ with a timestampmatching the time I hit this bug. Can I do something with that file to help someone debug?

Sounds like subject matter for [opensuse-factory] or [opensuse-kde] to me. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Dave Howorth composed on 2016-10-18 19:46 (UTC+0100):

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 00:28:10 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote:

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I'm just trying to use audio on a relatively new PC (so I can hear a utoob video) and just get silence. What's the best source for a walk through of the steps needed to configure audio on Leap 42.1? The only pages I've found are for earlier releases so I don't know whether they are valid.

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YaST says I have:

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Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller

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neither of which are configured.

Apologies for replying to myself, but nobody at all knows anything about configuring audio? I find that surprising!

Apparently few do. One who does is Takashi Iwai. I was only able to stumble through 42.1 setup on my Haswell because of his help. I meant to reply yesterday with https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-10/msg00425.html when I first saw this, but got sidetracked. His comment 8 of the bug referenced there might be the place to start, as it was key for me. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 07:42:58 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:37:13 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:

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Dave Howorth composed on 2016-10-18 19:46 (UTC+0100):

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On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 00:28:10 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote:

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I'm just trying to use audio on a relatively new PC (so I can hear a utoob video) and just get silence. What's the best source for a walk through of the steps needed to configure audio on Leap 42.1? The only pages I've found are for earlier releases so I don't know whether they are valid.

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YaST says I have:

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Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller

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neither of which are configured.

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Apologies for replying to myself, but nobody at all knows anything about configuring audio? I find that surprising!

Apparently few do. One who does is Takashi Iwai. I was only able to stumble through 42.1 setup on my Haswell because of his help. I meant to reply yesterday with https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-10/msg00425.html when I first saw this, but got sidetracked.

His comment 8 of the bug referenced there might be the place to start, as it was key for me.

Thanks Felix, I'll try to work through that lot.

Hmm, I'm just getting frustrated. I added options snd index=1,0 to /etc/modprobe.d/50-sound.conf and rebooted. YaST says what I believe to be the analogue is controller 0 but Play Test Sound still is silent. My alsa-info is at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c4a1a88ae57352ff451ae2bab0937d502f9d5f5b Hopefully somebody can make sense of it. I don't have pulse installed. The two 'cards' are both on the motherboard. Anybody know if Mint or Knoppix handle audio any better out of the box? Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 16:12:53 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:

Dave Howorth composed on 2016-10-21 20:42 (UT+0100):

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Hmm, I'm just getting frustrated. I added

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options snd index=1,0

In comment 11 Takashi corrected his comment 8 suggestion to:

options snd-hda-intel index=1,0

That's what this 42.1 system with working sound has configured. Here's an excerpt from my alsa-info.sh output:

!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA !!-----------------------------

0 [PCH ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH HDA Intel PCH at 0xf7d10000 irq 29 1 [HDMI ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI HDA Intel HDMI at 0xf7d14000 irq 30

!!PCI Soundcards installed in the system !!--------------------------------------

00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)

!!Advanced information - PCI Vendor/Device/Subsystem ID's !!-------------------------------------------------------

00:02.0 0300: 8086:0402 (rev 06) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: 1462:7850 -- 00:03.0 0403: 8086:0c0c (rev 06) Subsystem: 1462:7850 -- 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:8c20 (rev 04) Subsystem: 1462:d850

!!Modprobe options (Sound related) !!--------------------------------

snd_hda_intel: index=1,0

Other than you've set modprobe according to Takashi's comment 8 rather than 11, I see little difference in our hardware or configuration.

I updated my 50-sound.conf so it now reads: options snd snd-hda-intel index=1,0 options snd slots=snd-hda-intel # u1Nb.6Vl+u16R_G6:8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel and rebooted but it doesn't seem to have made any difference. My ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7d76c0cb61500bba96f9906f6b20ac7e3181333c -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:57:27 +0100 Dave Howorth wrote:

I updated my 50-sound.conf so it now reads:

options snd snd-hda-intel index=1,0 options snd slots=snd-hda-intel # u1Nb.6Vl+u16R_G6:8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel

and rebooted but it doesn't seem to have made any difference.

My ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7d76c0cb61500bba96f9906f6b20ac7e3181333c

Just to update this. I had another look at this and realized the options line above is wrong. When I corrected it to options snd-hda-intel index=1,0 and rebooted everything sprang into life. Thanks very much, Felix and everybody else who tried to help. Cheers, Dave PS I still don't understand why the system is so picky about which sound card is first. It feels like something that should be tweakable in a preferences GUI (in a mixer app, maybe?). I may have a dig around in the code but any pointers to get me started would be gratefully received. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org