zGreenfelder wrote:

it might also be of some help to try to manually do what init, et al [s|w]ould be doing

if feasible, I'd login cd /etc/init.d/rc.$current_runlevel + and run something of the ilk: for i in K* ++ do ./$i stop done

I don't know if you're replying to Marc Chamberlin (the OP with the problem that shutdown doesn't work over SSH) or to my comment that one of my system doesn't reboot at all. (That's one of the drawbacks of top postings... ;-) If it's a remark for Marc, you make a very important point. Marc should set RUN_PARALLEL to "no" in /etc/sysconfig/boot. Many problems during boot or shutdown are cured by that; dependency information in init.d scripts is lacking for many situations. (I need to patch 4-5 init.d scripts in each openSUSE release; let's hope systemd improves that.) If it's a remark for me: My issue is not with init.d scripts; they are all run. After "Please stand by while rebooting the system...", when BIOS action is normally triggered, nothing happens. (And it has nothing to do with older hardware either; I bought this system from Dell 8 weeks ago; it's a rather new i7 system.) Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod@acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org