[opensuse] safe rebooting options
Since kernel version 3.16 I have a problem with rebooting or halting the machine. The reboot functions in the menu only freeze the machine and only the reset knob would help. This happens with kernel versions 3.17 and 3.18. Having found at least 5 methods to halt or reboot I have tried all of them out only to find that only 3 work and halt or reboot. These are poweroff, halt or sytemctl. These commands only work for me if I use the force option. No wtmp is shown during the very fast action. Using the shutdown command in 3.16 kernel version which I still have on this machine gives a message (wtmp) and gracefully closes the open programs. Which of the three commands, poweroff, halt or systemctl is the preferred. With systemctl it mentions in the man that hence the force option is a drastic but relatively safe option to request an immediate reboot. Better than halt or poweroff? -- Linux User 183145 using Tumbleweed KDE4 and LXQT on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 20150129 (i586) Kernel: 3.18.3-1-default KDE Development Platform: 4.14.4 13:17pm up 0:19, 2 users, load average: 1.31, 3.09, 3.69 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 13:41:28 +0700 Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Since kernel version 3.16 I have a problem with rebooting or halting the machine. The reboot functions in the menu only freeze the machine and only the reset knob would help. This happens with kernel versions 3.17 and 3.18.
Hi Constant, So this has been happening since you installed 13.2? My laptop is running 13.2 and the current kernel is 3.16.7-7-desktop. Did you do a 'fresh, from scratch' (new) installation, or upgrade an existing system? It seems to me that your efforts to fix this problem have taken you all the way to Tumbleweed without the problem being fixed.
Having found at least 5 methods to halt or reboot I have tried all of them out only to find that only 3 work and halt or reboot. These are poweroff, halt or sytemctl. These commands only work for me if I use the force option.
'force' is always a last resort. I'd be very concerned about risking irrevocable filesystem damage / corruption.
No wtmp is shown during the very fast action. Using the shutdown command in 3.16 kernel version which I still have on this machine gives a message (wtmp) and gracefully closes the open programs.
Which of the three commands, poweroff, halt or systemctl is the preferred.
With systemctl it mentions in the man that hence the force option is a drastic but relatively safe option to request an immediate reboot. Better than halt or poweroff?
Being able to cleanly shutdown and reboot is such an essential requirement. I can't imagine you tolerating this behavior for very long. And of course it's always better to identify and fix the underlying problem than to settle for a 'least risky' alternative. I'm not recommending this (yet) but can you backup your config and data and reinstall? Is that something you can reasonably consider? regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 01 February 2015 04:54:13 Carl Hartung wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 13:41:28 +0700
Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Since kernel version 3.16 I have a problem with rebooting or halting the machine. The reboot functions in the menu only freeze the machine and only the reset knob would help. This happens with kernel versions 3.17 and 3.18.
Hi Constant,
So this has been happening since you installed 13.2?
My laptop is running 13.2 and the current kernel is 3.16.7-7-desktop.
Did you do a 'fresh, from scratch' (new) installation, or upgrade an existing system? It seems to me that your efforts to fix this problem have taken you all the way to Tumbleweed without the problem being fixed.
Dear Carl, Around 12.3 it was a fresh install. From then on it developed into 13.2 with Tumbleweed.
Having found at least 5 methods to halt or reboot I have tried all of them out only to find that only 3 work and halt or reboot. These are poweroff, halt or sytemctl. These commands only work for me if I use the force option.
'force' is always a last resort. I'd be very concerned about risking irrevocable filesystem damage / corruption.
I also do not like "force" but due to its description it seemed the least of my choices.
No wtmp is shown during the very fast action. Using the shutdown command in 3.16 kernel version which I still have on this machine gives a message (wtmp) and gracefully closes the open programs.
Which of the three commands, poweroff, halt or systemctl is the preferred.
With systemctl it mentions in the man that hence the force option is a drastic but relatively safe option to request an immediate reboot. Better than halt or poweroff?
Being able to cleanly shutdown and reboot is such an essential requirement. I can't imagine you tolerating this behavior for very long. And of course it's always better to identify and fix the underlying problem than to settle for a 'least risky' alternative.
I'm not recommending this (yet) but can you backup your config and data and reinstall? Is that something you can reasonably consider?
Thought about a reinstall but opted to wait for a working update of Tumbleweed. Yesterday with an enormous update (1581 data) I can now again reboot on the normal way. Thanks Constant -- Linux User 183145 using Tumbleweed KDE4 and LXQT on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 20150201 (i586) Kernel: 3.18.3-1-default KDE Development Platform: 4.14.4 17:53pm up 0:42, 2 users, load average: 3.48, 2.14, 2.20 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 18:04:15 +0700 Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Thought about a reinstall but opted to wait for a working update of Tumbleweed. Yesterday with an enormous update (1581 data) I can now again reboot on the normal way.
Thanks
Constant
Thanks for the update, Constant, and I'm glad it's sorted out. I guess in this case patience really was a virtue! ;-) regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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