[opensuse] Which is the proper method to set the language in XFCE?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I do not see a setting to set the user language in XFCE, different from the system language. Traditionally I use the file .i18n file, like this: LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=es_ES@euro LC_NUMERIC=es_ES@euro LC_PAPER=es_ES@euro LC_TELEPHONE=es_ES@euro LC_MEASUREMENT=es_ES@euro LC_NAME=es_ES@euro which works. But if I try to set the entire environment to Spanish, it fails: LANG=es_ES.utf8 I get English (this is already reported in Bugzilla). Is there another "correct" way to set the language per user on XFCE? - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloJkLYACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X+TgCgigy+z8IRf5cgRt03e+Y1M1pq j+IAn0PxMr0wYLFAb8A1YWx3xdZD+ts/ =zJJo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:31:49 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
I do not see a setting to set the user language in XFCE, different from the system language.
Traditionally I use the file .i18n file, like this:
LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=es_ES@euro LC_NUMERIC=es_ES@euro LC_PAPER=es_ES@euro LC_TELEPHONE=es_ES@euro LC_MEASUREMENT=es_ES@euro LC_NAME=es_ES@euro
which works. But if I try to set the entire environment to Spanish, it fails:
LANG=es_ES.utf8
I get English (this is already reported in Bugzilla). Is there another "correct" way to set the language per user on XFCE?
This isn't something I come across because I use English exclusively nowadays (tho I grew up on a Spanish-speaking Caribbean island, that was a long l-o-n-g time ago) but it is interesting enough that I did a quick google. It appears that like pretty much everything in XFCE (such as how one locks the desktop icons) there are multiple ways to successfully accomplish what you want to do, but no 'official' way. Look at... https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1503191#p1503191 ... which uses .bashrc and .profile variables. Does that work? Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-11-13 20:56, listreader wrote:
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:31:49 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
I do not see a setting to set the user language in XFCE, different from the system language.
Traditionally I use the file .i18n file, like this:
...
I get English (this is already reported in Bugzilla). Is there another "correct" way to set the language per user on XFCE?
This isn't something I come across because I use English exclusively nowadays (tho I grew up on a Spanish-speaking Caribbean island, that was a long l-o-n-g time ago) but it is interesting enough that I did a quick google. It appears that like pretty much everything in XFCE (such as how one locks the desktop icons) there are multiple ways to successfully accomplish what you want to do, but no 'official' way. Look at...
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1503191#p1503191
... which uses .bashrc and .profile variables. Does that work?
Probably, yes. Not tested. I found some methods that work, thanks, while talking on the other bugzilla. The "proper" way in openSUSE is to select the language _before_ login. This does not work for XFCE, at least (tested on TW). Maybe for a new user on the first login, dunno. However, there are two methods that work: {HOME}/.i18n: LANG=es_ES.utf8 LC_LANG=es_ES.utf8 unset _save which I do not know if it has other effects. Or, in the same file: LANG=es_ES.utf8 LC_LANG=es_ES.utf8 GDM_LANG=es_ES.utf8 This works because the system scripts decide to override LANG if GDM_LANG is set, and this can not be changed. So the above works - at least as long as I don't use KDE (untested). I never hit this problem personally because I prefer to see programs in English, but sometimes I let other people use my computer and they do want Spanish. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:21:47 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
The "proper" way in openSUSE is to select the language _before_ login. This does not work for XFCE, at least (tested on TW). Maybe for a new user on the first login, dunno.
That's a feature of the display manager, is it not? So it depends which one you're using. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2017-11-14 at 15:02 -0000, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:21:47 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
The "proper" way in openSUSE is to select the language _before_ login. This does not work for XFCE, at least (tested on TW). Maybe for a new user on the first login, dunno.
That's a feature of the display manager, is it not? So it depends which one you're using.
Bug 1068047 - Choosing language on login does not work lightdm - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloLMpEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VtZACfTPJhdB/meqNiVRXGByyNTJgi fIkAoJVaM6OxzLPvuFSn57l8bxgQe+3o =GqJl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 14/11/17 19:14, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Bug 1068047 - Choosing language on login does not work lightdm
You might want to try lxdm. I used to use that successfully to login to xfce with a selected language. gumb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2017-11-14 at 19:25 +0100, gumb wrote:
On 14/11/17 19:14, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Bug 1068047 - Choosing language on login does not work lightdm
You might want to try lxdm. I used to use that successfully to login to xfce with a selected language.
What package contains it? "zypper se lxdm" finds nothing, it is not in "oss". Oh, it is in "X11:lxde", not in mainstream TW. I do not like adding repos to my TW test system. Anyhow, I have a working solution to select a language: Edit file {HOME}/.i18n LANG=es_ES.utf8 LC_LANG=es_ES.utf8 GDM_LANG=es_ES.utf8 But I expect that's not to be the official way for people to use. They should have some mousing method with the default XFCE installed. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloRzXEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XT9wCdFtVY4LZI0s1aomNg0YzRz/9S qnIAoI0PGCN5qYMNfixgCEEmOEl9sXub =73tp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/11/17 19:29, Carlos E. R. wrote:
What package contains it?
"zypper se lxdm" finds nothing, it is not in "oss". Oh, it is in "X11:lxde", not in mainstream TW. I do not like adding repos to my TW test system.
Anyhow, I have a working solution to select a language:
Edit file {HOME}/.i18n
LANG=es_ES.utf8 LC_LANG=es_ES.utf8 GDM_LANG=es_ES.utf8
But I expect that's not to be the official way for people to use. They should have some mousing method with the default XFCE installed.
Well I didn't know you were on Tumbleweed. It's available in the default repos for Leap. How about if you simply grab the package off OBS and try installing it from a local directory? Maybe it doesn't have any further dependencies and you won't need to add the repo. Though if it's a test system, I'm not sure why that would matter much? gumb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:40 +0100, gumb wrote:
On 19/11/17 19:29, Carlos E. R. wrote:
What package contains it?
"zypper se lxdm" finds nothing, it is not in "oss". Oh, it is in "X11:lxde", not in mainstream TW. I do not like adding repos to my TW test system.
Anyhow, I have a working solution to select a language:
Edit file {HOME}/.i18n
LANG=es_ES.utf8 LC_LANG=es_ES.utf8 GDM_LANG=es_ES.utf8
But I expect that's not to be the official way for people to use. They should have some mousing method with the default XFCE installed.
Well I didn't know you were on Tumbleweed. It's available in the default repos for Leap.
Oh, sorry. My main system is Leap, but for the purpose of reporting the bug I tried the issue in TW, a virtual machine system I have for testing.
How about if you simply grab the package off OBS and try installing it from a local directory? Maybe it doesn't have any further dependencies and you won't need to add the repo. Though if it's a test system, I'm not sure why that would matter much?
Oh, installing the display manager is only 2 actual packages, not the entire lxde environment. Not that big an issue. It is just that if I add a repo there I will forget what it was for the next time I open that VM. I will try lxdm, nevertheless, time permitting :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloR0i8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VwhwCfSNu4cMs75RRsJMPaCl/kbgun gBcAnR3Wqy3AwprHBEpYadD9F+4eRcdC =2Fjh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:49 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:40 +0100, gumb wrote:
On 19/11/17 19:29, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I will try lxdm, nevertheless, time permitting :-)
Ok, I did, in TW: does not start. init 3 Edited "/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager": DISPLAYMANAGER="lxdm" #DISPLAYMANAGER="lightdm" init 5 And I still have lightdm running. Sigh :-( Now it will be some hidden symlink somewhere, or some systemd trick, with no YaST tool to do it. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloR5OgACgkQtTMYHG2NR9U/LACePV8lerEBQh6hojOEKDpq8PmW 13gAn1IN8J04eaOfyZ9hXgDEhn3PYF7J =URT9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:09:06PM +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:49 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:40 +0100, gumb wrote:
On 19/11/17 19:29, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I will try lxdm, nevertheless, time permitting :-)
Ok, I did, in TW: does not start.
init 3 Edited "/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager": DISPLAYMANAGER="lxdm" #DISPLAYMANAGER="lightdm" init 5
And I still have lightdm running. Sigh :-(
Ohmm ... on console systemctl restart display-manager.service Werner -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 09:41 +0100, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:09:06PM +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:49 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:40 +0100, gumb wrote:
On 19/11/17 19:29, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I will try lxdm, nevertheless, time permitting :-)
Ok, I did, in TW: does not start.
init 3 Edited "/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager": DISPLAYMANAGER="lxdm" #DISPLAYMANAGER="lightdm" init 5
And I still have lightdm running. Sigh :-(
Ohmm ... on console
systemctl restart display-manager.service
AFAIK init 3 ; init 5 does the same, even better. Look: Tumbleweed:~ # init 3 Tumbleweed:~ # ps afxu | grep light root 3832 0.0 0.1 7432 816 pts/0 S+ 13:13 0:00 \_ grep --color=auto light Tumbleweed:~ # ps afxu | grep lxdm root 3837 0.0 0.1 7432 816 pts/0 S+ 13:13 0:00 \_ grep --color=auto lxdm Tumbleweed:~ # systemctl status display-manager.service ● display-manager.service - X Display Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/display-manager.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) since Mon 2017-11-20 13:13:03 CET; 1min 20s ago Process: 3800 ExecStop=/usr/lib/X11/display-manager stop (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Process: 2577 ExecStart=/usr/lib/X11/display-manager start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 2632 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Nov 19 21:04:32 Tumbleweed display-manager[2577]: Command: localectl set-keymap es Nov 19 21:04:32 Tumbleweed display-manager[2577]: I: Using systemd /usr/share/systemd/kbd-model-map mapping Nov 19 21:04:33 Tumbleweed display-manager[2577]: Starting service lightdm..done Nov 19 21:04:33 Tumbleweed systemd[1]: Started X Display Manager. Nov 19 21:04:34 Tumbleweed lightdm[2632]: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed Nov 20 13:13:02 Tumbleweed systemd[1]: Stopping X Display Manager... Nov 20 13:13:02 Tumbleweed display-manager[3800]: /usr/lib/X11/display-manager: line 132: type: console_vars: not found Nov 20 13:13:02 Tumbleweed display-manager[3800]: /usr/lib/X11/display-manager: line 132: type: default-displaymanager_vars: not found Nov 20 13:13:03 Tumbleweed display-manager[3800]: Shutting down service lightdm..done Nov 20 13:13:03 Tumbleweed systemd[1]: Stopped X Display Manager. Tumbleweed:~ # init 5 Tumbleweed:~ # ps afxu | grep light root 3981 0.0 0.1 7432 884 pts/0 S+ 13:14 0:00 \_ grep --color=auto light root 3900 0.1 0.9 351588 6824 ? Sl 13:14 0:00 /usr/sbin/lightdm root 3906 2.4 6.1 358308 45508 tty7 Ssl+ 13:14 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/X :0 -seat seat0 -auth /run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch root 3929 0.0 1.1 275100 8308 ? Sl 13:14 0:00 \_ lightdm --session-child 17 20 lightdm 3945 6.8 8.2 592444 60964 ? Ssl 13:14 0:00 | \_ /usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter root 3979 0.1 0.9 125236 7028 ? S 13:14 0:00 \_ lightdm --session-child 13 20 lightdm 3939 0.4 1.0 69688 7700 ? Ss 13:14 0:00 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --user lightdm 3940 0.0 0.3 198628 2408 ? S 13:14 0:00 \_ (sd-pam) lightdm 3947 0.0 0.5 41720 4296 ? Ss 13:14 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --session --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation lightdm 3948 0.1 0.7 344832 5420 ? Ssl 13:14 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/at-spi2/at-spi-bus-launcher lightdm 3953 0.0 0.5 41600 4156 ? S 13:14 0:00 | \_ /bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 3 lightdm 3956 0.1 0.7 218524 5500 ? Sl 13:14 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/at-spi2/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session lightdm 3957 0.1 0.9 281352 6776 ? Ssl 13:14 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd lightdm 3964 0.1 0.9 350432 7192 ? Sl 13:14 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-fuse /run/user/476/gvfs -f -o big_writes Tumbleweed:~ # - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloSx5kACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Xo5ACfUksGvhqvxrEmz9rOXtf7g7Qy ru0An0sfNtFkjOnH/qis6JxJUxmBOjSK =YlqK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Op maandag 20 november 2017 13:16:18 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 09:41 +0100, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:09:06PM +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:49 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:40 +0100, gumb wrote:
On 19/11/17 19:29, Carlos E. R. wrote: I will try lxdm, nevertheless, time permitting :-)
Ok, I did, in TW: does not start.
init 3
Edited "/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager": DISPLAYMANAGER="lxdm" #DISPLAYMANAGER="lightdm"
init 5
And I still have lightdm running. Sigh :-(
Ohmm ... on console
systemctl restart display-manager.service
AFAIK
init 3 ; init 5
does the same, even better.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
'init' these days is no more than a symlink to systemd. Since init is deprecated, I'd rather use the systemct equivalents. Look: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 28 okt 15:11 /sbin/init -> ../usr/lib/systemd/ systemd -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:42 +0100, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op maandag 20 november 2017 13:16:18 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 09:41 +0100, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:09:06PM +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:49 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:40 +0100, gumb wrote:
On 19/11/17 19:29, Carlos E. R. wrote: I will try lxdm, nevertheless, time permitting :-)
Ok, I did, in TW: does not start.
init 3
Edited "/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager": DISPLAYMANAGER="lxdm" #DISPLAYMANAGER="lightdm"
init 5
And I still have lightdm running. Sigh :-(
Ohmm ... on console
systemctl restart display-manager.service
AFAIK
init 3 ; init 5
does the same, even better.
'init' these days is no more than a symlink to systemd. Since init is deprecated, I'd rather use the systemct equivalents. Look:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 28 okt 15:11 /sbin/init -> ../usr/lib/systemd/ systemd
That's not the problem. None of those will work if /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager is ignored. It has to be done with update-alternatives, and this is not documented in the sysconfig file. And of course, has to be done in text mode. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloS0B0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X0SgCcD3l5TD6kiMr5E7LbLA9v3reE wiwAnj0GEi4SteRq6O1IV/dCe9RI86KD =GXP4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.21.1711201359530.13507@Telcontar.valinor> On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:52 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:42 +0100, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op maandag 20 november 2017 13:16:18 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 09:41 +0100, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:09:06PM +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:49 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:40 +0100, gumb wrote: > On 19/11/17 19:29, Carlos E. R. wrote: I will try lxdm, nevertheless, time permitting :-)
Ok, I did, in TW: does not start.
init 3
Edited "/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager": DISPLAYMANAGER="lxdm" #DISPLAYMANAGER="lightdm"
init 5
And I still have lightdm running. Sigh :-(
Ohmm ... on console
systemctl restart display-manager.service
AFAIK
init 3 ; init 5
does the same, even better.
'init' these days is no more than a symlink to systemd. Since init is deprecated, I'd rather use the systemct equivalents. Look:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 28 okt 15:11 /sbin/init -> ../usr/lib/systemd/ systemd
That's not the problem.
None of those will work if /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager is ignored.
It has to be done with update-alternatives, and this is not documented in the sysconfig file. And of course, has to be done in text mode.
And lxdm is not in the list: =================watch-line-wrap============================================================================================================================ YaST2 - alternatives @ Tumbleweed ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ Name:default-displaymanager │ │ Status:auto │ │ Current choice:/usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/lightdm │ ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────│┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐│ ──────────────────────────────┐ │Name │Current choice ││Choice │Priority ││ ┬ │cherryd │/usr/bin/cherryd-3.6 ││/usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/console│5 ││ │ │dbus-launch │/usr/bin/dbus-launch.x11 ││/usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/lightdm│15 ││ │ │default-displaymanager │/usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/ligh││/usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/xdm │10 ││ │ │default-xsession.desktop│/usr/share/xsessions/xfce.desktop││ ││ │ │easy_install │/usr/bin/easy_install-3.6 ││ ││ │ │gtk-update-icon-cache │/usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache-3.│└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘│ │ │icewm │/usr/bin/icewm-default │┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐│ │ │java │/usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.8.0-openjdk/││ ││ │ │jre_openjdk │/usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.8.0-openjdk ││ ││ │ │libblas.so.3 │/usr/lib64/blas/libblas.so.3 ││ ││ │ │libcblas.so.3 │/usr/lib64/blas/libcblas.so.3 ││ ││ │ │liblapack.so.3 │/usr/lib64/lapack/liblapack.so.3 ││ ││ ┴ │mt │/usr/bin/mtst ││ ││ │ └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────│└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘│ ──────────────────────────────┘ [Help] │ [Set choice][Set automatic mode][Cancel] │ [Edit][Cancel][Accept] - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloS0o0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Vx9QCglMONq2O7bGWdwhSldpHqzcH/ PlIAnjBuSRuwv2mPWTKCltXoOsIcoUU2 =53m3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [11-20-17 08:15]:
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Content-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.21.1711201359530.13507@Telcontar.valinor>
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:52 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:42 +0100, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op maandag 20 november 2017 13:16:18 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 09:41 +0100, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:09:06PM +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:49 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:40 +0100, gumb wrote: >> On 19/11/17 19:29, Carlos E. R. wrote: > I will try lxdm, nevertheless, time permitting :-)
Ok, I did, in TW: does not start.
init 3
Edited "/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager": DISPLAYMANAGER="lxdm" #DISPLAYMANAGER="lightdm"
init 5
And I still have lightdm running. Sigh :-(
Ohmm ... on console
systemctl restart display-manager.service
AFAIK
init 3 ; init 5
does the same, even better.
'init' these days is no more than a symlink to systemd. Since init is deprecated, I'd rather use the systemct equivalents. Look:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 28 okt 15:11 /sbin/init -> ../usr/lib/systemd/ systemd
That's not the problem.
None of those will work if /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager is ignored.
It has to be done with update-alternatives, and this is not documented in the sysconfig file. And of course, has to be done in text mode.
And lxdm is not in the list:
=================watch-line-wrap============================================================================================================================ YaST2 - alternatives @ Tumbleweed ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ Name:default-displaymanager │ │ Status:auto │ │ Current choice:/usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/lightdm │ ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────│┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐│ ──────────────────────────────┐ │Name │Current choice ││Choice │Priority ││ ┬ │cherryd │/usr/bin/cherryd-3.6 ││/usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/console│5 ││ │ │dbus-launch │/usr/bin/dbus-launch.x11 ││/usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/lightdm│15 ││ │ │default-displaymanager │/usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/ligh││/usr/lib/X11/displaymanagers/xdm │10 ││ │ │default-xsession.desktop│/usr/share/xsessions/xfce.desktop││ ││ │ │easy_install │/usr/bin/easy_install-3.6 ││ ││ │ │gtk-update-icon-cache │/usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache-3.│└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘│ │ │icewm │/usr/bin/icewm-default │┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐│ │ │java │/usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.8.0-openjdk/││ ││ │ │jre_openjdk │/usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.8.0-openjdk ││ ││ │ │libblas.so.3 │/usr/lib64/blas/libblas.so.3 ││ ││ │ │libcblas.so.3 │/usr/lib64/blas/libcblas.so.3 ││ ││ │ │liblapack.so.3 │/usr/lib64/lapack/liblapack.so.3 ││ ││ ┴ │mt │/usr/bin/mtst ││ ││ │ └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────│└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘│ ──────────────────────────────┘ [Help] │ [Set choice][Set automatic mode][Cancel] │ [Edit][Cancel][Accept]
maybe you need to add it: #> update-alternatives --help Usage: update-alternatives [<option> ...] <command> Commands: --install <link> <name> <path> <priority> and there is a man page -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 08:26 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [11-20-17 08:15]:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:52 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:42 +0100, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op maandag 20 november 2017 13:16:18 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 09:41 +0100, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:09:06PM +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
...
It has to be done with update-alternatives, and this is not documented in the sysconfig file. And of course, has to be done in text mode.
And lxdm is not in the list:
...
maybe you need to add it:
#> update-alternatives --help Usage: update-alternatives [<option> ...] <command>
Commands: --install <link> <name> <path> <priority>
and there is a man page
Or wait for the bug to be corrected. ;-) Yes, I'm aware of update-alternatives process, I have done it previously. But I would need to go find out the proper parameters to give it, and it is not a priority for me. I'm not going further this road, sorry. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloS2jUACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XnBQCgh7ld3hKpXD07q2NO1vCKXpN0 xksAoIW8JTz89qq4WejeCm4IJidRG1Zw =T+rL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [11-20-17 08:37]:
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On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 08:26 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [11-20-17 08:15]:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:52 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:42 +0100, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op maandag 20 november 2017 13:16:18 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 09:41 +0100, Dr. Werner Fink wrote: >On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:09:06PM +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
...
It has to be done with update-alternatives, and this is not documented in the sysconfig file. And of course, has to be done in text mode.
And lxdm is not in the list:
...
maybe you need to add it:
#> update-alternatives --help Usage: update-alternatives [<option> ...] <command>
Commands: --install <link> <name> <path> <priority>
and there is a man page
Or wait for the bug to be corrected. ;-)
Yes, I'm aware of update-alternatives process, I have done it previously. But I would need to go find out the proper parameters to give it, and it is not a priority for me. I'm not going further this road, sorry.
not suggesting you do, only commenting on availability. lxdm *can* be on the "list", but needs adding. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op maandag 20 november 2017 13:52:45 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:42 +0100, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op maandag 20 november 2017 13:16:18 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 09:41 +0100, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:09:06PM +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:49 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:40 +0100, gumb wrote: > On 19/11/17 19:29, Carlos E. R. wrote: I will try lxdm, nevertheless, time permitting :-)
Ok, I did, in TW: does not start.
init 3
Edited "/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager": DISPLAYMANAGER="lxdm" #DISPLAYMANAGER="lightdm"
init 5
And I still have lightdm running. Sigh :-(
Ohmm ... on console
systemctl restart display-manager.service
AFAIK
init 3 ; init 5
does the same, even better.
'init' these days is no more than a symlink to systemd. Since init is deprecated, I'd rather use the systemct equivalents. Look:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 28 okt 15:11 /sbin/init -> ../usr/lib/systemd/ systemd
That's not the problem.
None of those will work if /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager is ignored.
See here: /usr/lib/systemd/system # ls -l runlevel* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 28 okt 15:11 runlevel0.target -> poweroff.target lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 28 okt 15:11 runlevel1.target -> rescue.target lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 28 okt 15:11 runlevel2.target -> multi-user.target lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 28 okt 15:11 runlevel3.target -> multi-user.target lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 28 okt 15:11 runlevel4.target -> multi-user.target lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 28 okt 15:11 runlevel5.target -> graphical.target lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 28 okt 15:11 runlevel6.target -> reboot.target
It has to be done with update-alternatives, and this is not documented in the sysconfig file. And of course, has to be done in text mode.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
-- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 14:15 +0100, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op maandag 20 november 2017 13:52:45 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:42 +0100, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op maandag 20 november 2017 13:16:18 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 09:41 +0100, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:09:06PM +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:49 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On Sunday, 2017-11-19 at 19:40 +0100, gumb wrote: >> On 19/11/17 19:29, Carlos E. R. wrote: > I will try lxdm, nevertheless, time permitting :-)
Ok, I did, in TW: does not start.
init 3
Edited "/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager": DISPLAYMANAGER="lxdm" #DISPLAYMANAGER="lightdm"
init 5
And I still have lightdm running. Sigh :-(
Ohmm ... on console
systemctl restart display-manager.service
AFAIK
init 3 ; init 5
does the same, even better.
'init' these days is no more than a symlink to systemd. Since init is deprecated, I'd rather use the systemct equivalents. Look:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 28 okt 15:11 /sbin/init -> ../usr/lib/systemd/ systemd
That's not the problem.
None of those will work if /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager is ignored.
See here: /usr/lib/systemd/system # ls -l runlevel* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 28 okt 15:11 runlevel0.target -> poweroff.target lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 28 okt 15:11 runlevel1.target -> rescue.target lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 28 okt 15:11 runlevel2.target -> multi-user.target lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 28 okt 15:11 runlevel3.target -> multi-user.target lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 28 okt 15:11 runlevel4.target -> multi-user.target lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 28 okt 15:11 runlevel5.target -> graphical.target lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 28 okt 15:11 runlevel6.target -> reboot.target
Please, that is not the issue... Read this again and the other post:
It has to be done with update-alternatives, and this is not documented in the sysconfig file. And of course, has to be done in text mode.
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloS1joACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UulwCfRO9AF0VUuY5/EIRukAIBv2lm K+MAoIxdKM77zEir8HyFt1C6YyPsGq9l =uiAC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/20/2017 07:52 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:42 +0100, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
That's not the problem.
None of those will work if /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager is ignored.
It has to be done with update-alternatives, and this is not documented in the sysconfig file. And of course, has to be done in text mode.
There is a YaST module available: zypper se -i alt Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Summary | Type ---+---------------------+------------------------------------------------------+-------- i | update-alternatives | Maintain symbolic links determining default commands | package i+ | yast2-alternatives | YaST2 - Manage Update-alternatives switching | package pc1:~ # -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 10:31 -0500, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 11/20/2017 07:52 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 13:42 +0100, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
That's not the problem.
None of those will work if /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager is ignored.
It has to be done with update-alternatives, and this is not documented in the sysconfig file. And of course, has to be done in text mode.
There is a YaST module available:
zypper se -i alt Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
S | Name | Summary | Type ---+---------------------+------------------------------------------------------+-------- i | update-alternatives | Maintain symbolic links determining default commands | package i+ | yast2-alternatives | YaST2 - Manage Update-alternatives switching | package pc1:~ #
Yes, I know, I installed it and posted a screenshot. But there are two issues: 1, that lxdm is not registered with update-alterntives and does not appear in the list. This is a bug, I'll try to report it. 2, the operation has to be done in text mode. Ie, close the current display manager, configure a different display manager to start while in text mode, and finally, restart graphics mode. If you do the operation in the desktop, the restart display manager operation tries to close the new display manager, which is not running, then start it while the old is still running... crash. Fortunately, YaST also runs in text mode :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloTPOYACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UpTgCfbcXdINPAb33nPvMDQ49nYr2A 864AnR/7wiTpb+BqwKmCTmV3X4BOEj+h =Y6/3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 21:36 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 10:31 -0500, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Yes, I know, I installed it and posted a screenshot. But there are two issues:
1, that lxdm is not registered with update-alterntives and does not appear in the list. This is a bug, I'll try to report it.
Impossible to report, there is no registered assignee for LXDE in bugzilla. I wrote a post about this to factory mail list. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloTRIIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W4ugCgk0MNfh5MrMa5cmn6cQf80jvK 0LYAniqhL0PIaLylel4rNCgPI8Nsf2KU =Ym26 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:14:33 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
Bug 1068047 - Choosing language on login does not work lightdm
Given https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=200990 and https://lists.gt.net/gentoo/user/244854 I expect your bug will be closed as upstream. You might want to post at https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/lightdm or just switch to lxdm as gumb suggests given how long the problem appears to have been there. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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