[opensuse] motherboard search engine
Hello: Sorry for this offtopic question but this is the only mailing list with high traffic I am subscribed to. Is there a search engine/page for PC motherboards where I can find motherboards by properties, eg. floppy, serial port, parallel port, IDE port support? Currently it is hard to find a motherboard that supports these devices and browsing specifications one by one for all modern motherboards would be tedious. I found one page at: http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/ but it can not search for the abovementioned device(s) support. Thanks in advance, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@lajt.hu> wrote:
Hello:
Sorry for this offtopic question but this is the only mailing list with high traffic I am subscribed to.
Is there a search engine/page for PC motherboards where I can find motherboards by properties, eg. floppy, serial port, parallel port, IDE port support?
Currently it is hard to find a motherboard that supports these devices and browsing specifications one by one for all modern motherboards would be tedious.
I found one page at: http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/ but it can not search for the abovementioned device(s) support.
Thanks in advance,
first thing that comes to mind for me is www.newegg.com's search (either power or guided, can' recall which). of course that's limited to what they're trying to sell you, but it might be a reasonable starting point. -- Even the Magic 8 ball has an opinion on email clients: Outlook not so good. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Istvan Gabor wrote:
Is there a search engine/page for PC motherboards where I can find motherboards by properties, eg. floppy, serial port, parallel port, IDE port support?
Currently it is hard to find a motherboard that supports these devices and browsing specifications one by one for all modern motherboards would be tedious.
I don't know of a search engine (that's a statement of my ignorance rather than an assertion that there is no such engine). But I'd have thought you would be likely to have more success if you looked for addon cards or USB devices etc for these devices rather than trying to find them on the motherboard. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-01-19 13:02, Dave Howorth wrote:
But I'd have thought you would be likely to have more success if you looked for addon cards or USB devices etc for these devices rather than trying to find them on the motherboard.
Mine has all the requirements except the parallel port. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8YCTQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XtTQCgkZLMfbm6SYjQVD2LfvRINiCL VuYAn1R3/ovaib4sr/cMfUL69ewzoGvR =iQ0p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Mine has all the requirements except the parallel port. Parallel port???
Does anyone still use those? ;-) It's been many years since I've had reason to use one. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 10:13 AM, James Knott wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Mine has all the requirements except the parallel port. Parallel port???
Does anyone still use those? ;-)
It's been many years since I've had reason to use one.
I just recently went through this. If ya like AMD here is a fairly recent one that has it all. GA-890FXA-UD5 http://www.gigabyte.us/products/list.aspx?s=42&jid=7&p=2&v=26 This one has it all plus an additional Ethernet port. Unfortunately you'll never find a pci floppy controller that can be used with the kernels /dev/fd0. Everything else you can find PCI cards for. But the above has em all. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 10:39 AM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 01/19/2012 10:13 AM, James Knott wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Mine has all the requirements except the parallel port. Parallel port???
Does anyone still use those? ;-)
It's been many years since I've had reason to use one.
I just recently went through this. If ya like AMD here is a fairly recent one that has it all.
GA-890FXA-UD5
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/list.aspx?s=42&jid=7&p=2&v=26
This one has it all plus an additional Ethernet port. Unfortunately you'll never find a pci floppy controller that can be used with the kernels /dev/fd0. Everything else you can find PCI cards for. But the above has em all.
Here's a link that works. Sorry. http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3781#ov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Mark Hounschell wrote:
Unfortunately you'll never find a pci floppy controller that can be used with the kernels /dev/fd0.
What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 11:04 AM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
Unfortunately you'll never find a pci floppy controller that can be used with the kernels /dev/fd0.
What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-)
I'm setting right next to a 9 track tape drive as I write this??? An HP-88780. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Mark Hounschell wrote:
What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-)
I'm setting right next to a 9 track tape drive as I write this??? An HP-88780.
I was thinking more along the lines of something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_track_tape ;-) BTW, many years ago, I used to maintain that sort of tape drive. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 12:28 PM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-)
I'm setting right next to a 9 track tape drive as I write this??? An HP-88780.
I was thinking more along the lines of something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_track_tape
I also have some "experience" with some old giant vacuum 1/2 tape drives but that one was a little before my time. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-)
I'm setting right next to a 9 track tape drive as I write this??? An HP-88780.
I was thinking more along the lines of something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_track_tape
Yeah, 1600 or 6250bpi - we had some of those in my first job, but they were very quickly replaced by IBM 3480. Later on in life I worked for THE big tape company in the world. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 02:43 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-)
I'm setting right next to a 9 track tape drive as I write this??? An HP-88780.
I was thinking more along the lines of something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_track_tape
Yeah, 1600 or 6250bpi - we had some of those in my first job, but they were very quickly replaced by IBM 3480. Later on in life I worked for THE big tape company in the world.
STC?? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Mark Hounschell wrote:
On 01/19/2012 02:43 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-)
I'm setting right next to a 9 track tape drive as I write this??? An HP-88780.
I was thinking more along the lines of something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_track_tape
Yeah, 1600 or 6250bpi - we had some of those in my first job, but they were very quickly replaced by IBM 3480. Later on in life I worked for THE big tape company in the world.
STC??
STK, yup. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-) I'm setting right next to a 9 track tape drive as I write this??? An HP-88780. I was thinking more along the lines of something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_track_tape Yeah, 1600 or 6250bpi - we had some of those in my first job, but they were very quickly replaced by IBM 3480. Later on in life I worked for THE big tape company in the world.
We had a lot of 800 bpi drives and some 1600. There were also some 6250 IIRC, on newer systems. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
Unfortunately you'll never find a pci floppy controller that can be used with the kernels /dev/fd0.
What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-)
It works very well with LTO1-2-3-4-5 too :-) -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.5°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 08:04 AM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
Unfortunately you'll never find a pci floppy controller that can be used with the kernels /dev/fd0.
What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-)
This is OT but interesting, I actually ran into some engineers a few years out of college who had never heard of 9-track mag tape! I had to google some photos before they would believe it. I'm dating myself, but I used to use 7-track tape too! It was 200 frames per inch. I remember diagnosing problems with something called Visimag. It was a volatile fluid containing suspended iron particles that the tape would be dipped in. You could then see not only the tracks, but even the individual frames on the tape! BTW, is the opensuse offtopic list still in operation? I looked for the archives the other day but found only a dead link. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
I'm dating myself, but I used to use 7-track tape too! It was 200 frames per inch. I remember diagnosing problems with something called Visimag. It was a volatile fluid containing suspended iron particles that the tape would be dipped in. You could then see not only the tracks, but even the individual frames on the tape!
It is used to adjust the vertical alignment of the tape head to insure that the set of tracks are centered on the tape. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Tony Alfrey wrote:
It is used to adjust the vertical alignment of the tape head to insure that the set of tracks are centered on the tape.
Actually, skew. You had to line up the tracks so they would be read at the same time. There were write skew adjustment, so the tracks would appear as a straight line across the tape and also read skew, so the data was clocked properly. There was also a coarse mechanical alignment. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 01:45 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 01/19/2012 08:04 AM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
Unfortunately you'll never find a pci floppy controller that can be used with the kernels /dev/fd0.
What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-)
This is OT but interesting, I actually ran into some engineers a few years out of college who had never heard of 9-track mag tape! I had to google some photos before they would believe it.
Yes, it is OT, so this is my last in it.
I'm dating myself, but I used to use 7-track tape too! It was 200 frames per inch. I remember diagnosing problems with something called Visimag. It was a volatile fluid containing suspended iron particles that the tape would be dipped in. You could then see not only the tracks, but even the individual frames on the tape!
You probably meant 200 ips "Inches per second" which is a fast drive. As were those big IBM's. Most normal 9-track tape drives ranged from 45ips in the mid to late 70's to 125ips in the early to late 80's. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 11:07 AM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
You probably meant 200 ips "Inches per second" which is a fast drive. As were those big IBM's. Most normal 9-track tape drives ranged from 45ips in the mid to late 70's to 125ips in the early to late 80's.
I'm fairly sure it was frames per inch. The more modern "PE" 9-tracks were up in the 6250-FPI range, if memory serves. The 7-track units were used with an incremental data logger that would write 1 frame at a time, the tape was moved with a stepper motor. It was read with a conventional high-speed (sort of) block read transport. The 7-track 200-FPI tapes are mention here: http://www.learn-about-electronics.com/magnetic-tape-storage.html Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 02:30 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 01/19/2012 11:07 AM, Mark Hounschell wrote:
You probably meant 200 ips "Inches per second" which is a fast drive. As were those big IBM's. Most normal 9-track tape drives ranged from 45ips in the mid to late 70's to 125ips in the early to late 80's.
I'm fairly sure it was frames per inch. The more modern "PE" 9-tracks were up in the 6250-FPI range, if memory serves.
6250 was the recording density called GCR. That was in bytes per inch. PE was 1600 bytes per inch. NRZI was 800 bytes per inch The tape drive I mentioned earlier is capable of all 3 of those recording densities and is a 125ips drive. There was even a 2400 byte per inch but is was unnamed. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 01:45 PM, Lew Wolfgang pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On 01/19/2012 08:04 AM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
Unfortunately you'll never find a pci floppy controller that can be used with the kernels /dev/fd0.
What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-)
This is OT but interesting, I actually ran into some engineers a few years out of college who had never heard of 9-track mag tape! I had to google some photos before they would believe it.
I'm dating myself, but I used to use 7-track tape too! It was 200 frames per inch. I remember diagnosing problems with something called Visimag. It was a volatile fluid containing suspended iron particles that the tape would be dipped in. You could then see not only the tracks, but even the individual frames on the tape!
BTW, is the opensuse offtopic list still in operation? I looked for the archives the other day but found only a dead link.
Regards, Lew
I used to deal with not only 9-track but also 9" disks and 300m data packs that required a 3x3x3.5" box for them to run in. FYI: The OT list has no archives, IIANM it never has. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
FYI: The OT list has no archives, IIANM it never has.
I think it may have had for a very brief period of time, but we had it switched off. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
I used to deal with not only 9-track but also 9" disks and 300m data packs that required a 3x3x3.5" box for them to run in.
I don't recall 9" drives, but we had some 14" disk packs, with the "cake box" cover. Depending on model they were about 100, 200 or 300 MB. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> wrote:
I remember diagnosing problems with something called Visimag. It was a volatile fluid containing suspended iron particles that the tape would be dipped in. You could then see not only the tracks, but even the individual frames on the tape!
IIRC, in the days of 8" floppies, you could get a device that had fluid like the in the bottom and a magnifying glass in the top. With it you could read the individual fits on those floppies! Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:45:07 AM Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 01/19/2012 08:04 AM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Hounschell wrote:
Unfortunately you'll never find a pci floppy controller that can be used with the kernels /dev/fd0.> What about a 9 track mag tape drive? Gotta make use of that tar command. ;-) This is OT but interesting, I actually ran into some engineers a few years out of college who had never heard of 9-track mag tape! I had to google some photos before they would believe it.
I'm dating myself, but I used to use 7-track tape too! It was 200 frames per inch. I remember diagnosing problems with something called Visimag. It was a volatile fluid containing suspended iron particles that the tape would be dipped in. You could then see not only the tracks, but even the individual frames on the tape!
BTW, is the opensuse offtopic list still in operation? I looked for the archives the other day but found only a dead link.
Regards, Lew
Your dating your self. Vistamag was start of the art then. How about head per track disks and card readers. -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 02:55 PM, upscope wrote:
Your dating your self. Vistamag was start of the art then. How about head per track disks and card readers.
I've got 2 fully functional card readers and even a paper tape reader/puncher in the shop too. 80MB and 300MB wash tubs that are still used this day for testing the old controllers when we get them in. I still get to mess with some really old stuff. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 11:55 AM, upscope wrote:
Your dating your self. Vistamag was start of the art then. How about head per track disks and card readers.
At the risk of offending the OT police, I'll offer this: I do remember head-per-track disks, but I didn't work on them. I did work on Hewlett Packard disk transports that had one removable 14-inch platter and one fixed. The voice-coil driven heads on both platters required physical cleaning every month or so! I still have the little aluminum tool I made to make the task a bit easier. This was pre-Winchester technology, of course. I did use punch cards. Indeed, one of our old-fashioned scientists used cards for his FORTRAN code up until 1995 or so. I also was a heavy user of punched paper tape, and remember one sat-nav system that used a PDP-8S computer. This was a 12-bit system with a rows of indicators and a switch register to enter data. The computer didn't have non-volatile memory and the program (no operating system) had to be loaded each time it was turned on. First, a 64-word paper-tape bootstrap program had to be loaded by hand from the switch register. Then you could load the paper tape in the reader of an ASR-33 Teletype. It read the 7-inch diameter roll of tape at 110 baud and would take an hour or so to load. This was the original "Navy Transit" satellite system, that you could consult printed tables to predict when a satellite was due and if it was in the right ascension and elevation to process. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_%28satellite%29 I'll be quiet now. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I also was a heavy user of punched paper tape, and remember one sat-nav system that used a PDP-8S computer. This was a 12-bit system with a rows of indicators and a switch register to enter data. The computer didn't have non-volatile memory and the program (no operating system) had to be loaded each time it was turned on. First, a 64-word paper-tape bootstrap program had to be loaded by hand from the switch register. Then you could load the paper tape in the reader of an ASR-33 Teletype. It read the 7-inch diameter roll of tape at 110 baud and would take an hour or so to load.
I also used to work on a PDP-8i. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [01-19-12 16:13]:
Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I also was a heavy user of punched paper tape, and remember
I also used to work on a PDP-8i.
I guess we might as well go back to arguing politics or religion :^( -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:32:54 PM Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 01/19/2012 11:55 AM, upscope wrote:
Your dating your self. Vistamag was start of the art then. How about head per track disks and card readers.
At the risk of offending the OT police, I'll offer this:
I do remember head-per-track disks, but I didn't work on them. I did work on Hewlett Packard disk transports that had one removable 14-inch platter and one fixed. The voice-coil driven heads on both platters required physical cleaning every month or so! I still have the little aluminum tool I made to make the task a bit easier. This was pre-Winchester technology, of course.
I did use punch cards. Indeed, one of our old-fashioned scientists used cards for his FORTRAN code up until 1995 or so.
I also was a heavy user of punched paper tape, and remember one sat-nav system that used a PDP-8S computer. This was a 12-bit system with a rows of indicators and a switch register to enter data. The computer didn't have non-volatile memory and the program (no operating system) had to be loaded each time it was turned on. First, a 64-word paper-tape bootstrap program had to be loaded by hand from the switch register. Then you could load the paper tape in the reader of an ASR-33 Teletype. It read the 7-inch diameter roll of tape at 110 baud and would take an hour or so to load.
This was the original "Navy Transit" satellite system, that you could consult printed tables to predict when a satellite was due and if it was in the right ascension and elevation to process.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_%28satellite%29
I'll be quiet now.
Regards, Lew How about PDP 5 and 7 before the 8 and 9? We used to control whole chemical plants, nuclear reactors etc with them. -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
upscope wrote:
How about head per track disks and card readers.
Been there, done that, got the T-shirt with both. Also used to work on card punches too. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Lew Wolfgang wrote:
This is OT but interesting, I actually ran into some engineers a few years out of college who had never heard of 9-track mag tape! I had to google some photos before they would believe it.
We also had a 7 track drive where I used to work. It was for exchanging tapes with a Univac system that I didn't work on.
I'm dating myself, but I used to use 7-track tape too! It was 200 frames per inch. I remember diagnosing problems with something called Visimag. It was a volatile fluid containing suspended iron particles that the tape would be dipped in. You could then see not only the tracks, but even the individual frames on the tape!
Yep, I remember that stuff. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2012 07:02 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:
Is there a search engine/page for PC motherboards where I can find motherboards by properties, eg. floppy, serial port, parallel port, IDE port support?
Currently it is hard to find a motherboard that supports these devices and browsing specifications one by one for all modern motherboards would be tedious. I don't know of a search engine (that's a statement of my ignorance rather than an assertion that there is no such engine). But I'd have
Istvan Gabor wrote: thought you would be likely to have more success if you looked for addon cards or USB devices etc for these devices rather than trying to find them on the motherboard. I recently bought a Gigabyte P45T-ES3G which will do what you're looking for. I got it from Newegg. It supports 64 GB quad core cpu and 16 GB ram. Also bought a Foxconn G41MXE with slightly lower specs, and 8 GB ram. Both have built-in sound. These are not the latest possible mobos, but, like you, I wanted the capability of using some of the older equipment with it.
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Hello, On Thu, 19 Jan 2012, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Is there a search engine/page for PC motherboards where I can find motherboards by properties, eg. floppy, serial port, parallel port, IDE port support?
To some extent (all in german, but the descriptions are pretty selfexplanatory using standard names): http://geizhals.de http://geizhals.at If you use EUR as currency, you also get a gist of how much the stuff costs, in the other cases, you get at least a relative sense. Beware though: the cheapest are just that, where you'd have to pay in advance and maybe get the merchandise (despite efforts to weed those out). Look for the following names to get a realistic price amazon [if sold by amazon], alternate, reichelt, conrad, arlt, atelco, basically look at the "midrange" prices. If you just look for features, you don't have to care about that of course. BTW: I doubt there is a any recent mobo for intel combining all four mentioned above, if any. IIRC there are some boards having PATA and serial, but floppy and parallel? Socket 1155 + PATA + Floppy + serial yields 3 boards by asrock. None with parallel. For AM3+ there's one asrock and one msi, both with the (deprecated) AMD760 Chipset. I think the better path to venture on is forget about parallel onboard, just get a interface card, e.g. from delock.de: 89129 PCI Express Karte 2 x Seriell, 1x Parallel 89177 PCI Express Karte > 4 x Seriell, 1x Parallel 89004 Delock PCI Karte - 1x Parallel & 2x Seriell They (and others) also have IDE adapters. HTH, -dnh -- What? No one else is into extreme bondage computing? No coat for me. I enjoy the pain... -- D. Joseph Creighton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
2012. január 19. 16:53 napon David Haller <dnh@opensuse.org> írta:
Hello,
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Is there a search engine/page for PC motherboards where I can find motherboards by properties, eg. floppy, serial port, parallel port, IDE port support?
To some extent (all in german, but the descriptions are pretty selfexplanatory using standard names): http://geizhals.de http://geizhals.at
Thank you all for the suggestions. The Gigabyte mobos your mentioned look OK. The historical comments are also interesting. I did not work with such old hardwares but I used in the mid 90s a Colorado tape driver in DOS. As for the addon cards, most of the new mobos I've seen has only 1 PCI slot, that is I should choose between a floppy, serial, or parallel port PCI card. And yes, I use these old ports: parallel for my workhorse old printer, serial for my fax modem, and floppy for loading diagnostic tools like SeaTools etc. Thanks again, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/20/2012 06:14 AM, Istvan Gabor wrote:
As for the addon cards, most of the new mobos I've seen has only 1 PCI slot, that is I should choose between a floppy, serial, or parallel port PCI card.
Like I said earlier, you will not find a floppy PCI card other than the Catweasel mk4 card. And it is not supported by the kernel via /dev/fd0. No onboard floppy, no floppy. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Istvan Gabor wrote:
2012. január 19. 16:53 napon David Haller <dnh@opensuse.org> írta:
Hello,
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Is there a search engine/page for PC motherboards where I can find motherboards by properties, eg. floppy, serial port, parallel port, IDE port support?
To some extent (all in german, but the descriptions are pretty selfexplanatory using standard names): http://geizhals.de http://geizhals.at
Thank you all for the suggestions. The Gigabyte mobos your mentioned look OK. The historical comments are also interesting. I did not work with such old hardwares but I used in the mid 90s a Colorado tape driver in DOS. As for the addon cards, most of the new mobos I've seen has only 1 PCI slot, that is I should choose between a floppy, serial, or parallel port PCI card. And yes, I use these old ports: parallel for my workhorse old printer, serial for my fax modem, and floppy for loading diagnostic tools like SeaTools etc.
Diagnostic tools such as seatools can often be loaded onto a USB stick or CDROM too. Serial ports are also available via USB, although with some restrictions iirc. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/20/2012 08:15 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Diagnostic tools such as seatools can often be loaded onto a USB stick or CDROM too. Serial ports are also available via USB, although with some restrictions iirc.
Oh yea, USB floppies are available to. And they actually work (somewhat) with /dev/fd0. Bootable and all. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Istvan Gabor wrote:
2012. január 19. 16:53 napon David Haller<dnh@opensuse.org> írta:
Hello,
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Is there a search engine/page for PC motherboards where I can find motherboards by properties, eg. floppy, serial port, parallel port, IDE port support? To some extent (all in german, but the descriptions are pretty selfexplanatory using standard names): http://geizhals.de http://geizhals.at
Thank you all for the suggestions. The Gigabyte mobos your mentioned look OK. The historical comments are also interesting. I did not work with such old hardwares but I used in the mid 90s a Colorado tape driver in DOS. As for the addon cards, most of the new mobos I've seen has only 1 PCI slot, that is I should choose between a floppy, serial, or parallel port PCI card. And yes, I use these old ports: parallel for my workhorse old printer, serial for my fax modem, and floppy for loading diagnostic tools like SeaTools etc.
Thanks again,
Istvan
What about USB connected floppy? You should be able to boot from one of those. Also, why bother with floppies these days? Wouldn't bootable USB device or CD be better? Also, if you get an external USB floppy drive, it can be used with multiple computers. I have one here, that I bought with a ThinkPad, a few years ago. However, it took me a while to find a floppy to put in it to test with. ;-) When I plugged in the USB floppy, it appeared at /dev/sdb and I was able to mount it, when there was a floppy in it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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