[opensuse] Dead motherboard? Disk ok?
I have a desktop with an Asus K8V-X SE motherboard. It recently stopped booting, saying the hard drive failed smart tests. But when I try to go into the rescue system to save my data, the installer goes through the warning to save my data and replace the drive, then hangs when it tries to load via82cxxx, even when I give the kernel parameter "brokenmodules=via82cxxx", as the installer advises during boot. So, is it safe to say my motherboard is broken, and the hard drive probably ok? Or are the problems independent, implying that both broke at about the same time? John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
I have a desktop with an Asus K8V-X SE motherboard. It recently stopped booting, saying the hard drive failed smart tests.
But when I try to go into the rescue system to save my data, the installer goes through the warning to save my data and replace the drive, then hangs when it tries to load via82cxxx, even when I give the kernel parameter "brokenmodules=via82cxxx", as the installer advises during boot.
So, is it safe to say my motherboard is broken, and the hard drive probably ok? Or are the problems independent, implying that both broke at about the same time?
John Perry
Try putting the drive in another system, to see if it's readable. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008, James Knott wrote:
j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
I have a desktop with an Asus K8V-X SE motherboard. It recently stopped booting, saying the hard drive failed smart tests.
But when I try to go into the rescue system to save my data, the installer goes through the warning to save my data and replace the drive, then hangs when it tries to load via82cxxx, even when I give the kernel parameter "brokenmodules=via82cxxx", as the installer advises during boot.
So, is it safe to say my motherboard is broken, and the hard drive probably ok? Or are the problems independent, implying that both broke at about the
I think you have it the wrong way around - if your Drive is failing the SMART test, that means the drive is most likely going bad, not the motherboard. If you need to get critical data off of the drive before it stops working completely, you should be able to disable SMART temporarily in the BIOS, save your data, and then replace the drive ASAP. I would say your motherboard is fine (unless I've grossly mis-understood your question). -jayson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008, James Knott wrote:
j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
I have a desktop with an Asus K8V-X SE motherboard. It recently stopped booting, saying the hard drive failed smart tests.
But when I try to go into the rescue system to save my data, the installer...
So, is it safe to say my motherboard is broken, and the hard drive probably ok? Or are the problems independent, implying that both broke at about the
I think you have it the wrong way around - if your Drive is failing the SMART test, that means the drive is most likely going bad, not the motherboard.
OK, I guess it wasn't perfectly clear that the rescue system is on a bootable dvd. Why would a bad hard drive keep the dvd (on a different ATA bus) from loading a module? jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sorry, guys, I'm doing webmail right now, which is much harder to deal with. I'd like to combine messages, but it's just too much trouble without Thunderbird. ---- James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
I have a desktop with an Asus K8V-X SE motherboard. It recently stopped booting, saying the hard drive failed smart tests. ...
Try putting the drive in another system, to see if it's readable.
...this presupposes that I have another system... jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
I have a desktop with an Asus K8V-X SE motherboard. It recently stopped booting, saying the hard drive failed smart tests.
But when I try to go into the rescue system to save my data, the installer goes through the warning to save my data and replace the drive, then hangs when it tries to load via82cxxx, even when I give the kernel parameter "brokenmodules=via82cxxx", as the installer advises during boot.
So, is it safe to say my motherboard is broken, and the hard drive probably ok? Or are the problems independent, implying that both broke at about the same time?
John, I had a client have that problem.........VIA chipset on an Asus MOB. The drive had to be COMPLETELY repartitioned and formatted on a new MOB. I replaced the Asus with an MSI. Fred -- "Security" in Windows comes from patching a sieve. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
---- "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com> wrote:
j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
I have a desktop with an Asus K8V-X SE motherboard. It recently stopped booting, saying the hard drive failed smart tests. ...... John, I had a client have that problem.........VIA chipset on an Asus MOB. The drive had to be COMPLETELY repartitioned and formatted on a new MOB. I replaced the Asus with an MSI.
Ouch! Most of what was on that drive was duplicate of what's on my laptop (still struggling with that mess), but some stuff I'd like to have is unique to the desktop. At least I probably won't have to buy a new drive, too? jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
---- "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com> wrote:
j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
I have a desktop with an Asus K8V-X SE motherboard. It recently stopped booting, saying the hard drive failed smart tests. ...... John, I had a client have that problem.........VIA chipset on an Asus MOB. The drive had to be COMPLETELY repartitioned and formatted on a new MOB. I replaced the Asus with an MSI.
Ouch! Most of what was on that drive was duplicate of what's on my laptop (still struggling with that mess), but some stuff I'd like to have is unique to the desktop.
At least I probably won't have to buy a new drive, too?
jp
If you need that drive, by all means, buy another drive, keep the drive you need data on safe until you do a fresh install on the new drive, setup the new system to your taste, install the old drive in the box and mount it and retrieve your data. With 40G drives going for $30 it's not worth risking data you need trying to use that drive in an install/rescue scenario. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-03-29 at 22:17 -0400, j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
I have a desktop with an Asus K8V-X SE motherboard. It recently stopped booting, saying the hard drive failed smart tests.
But when I try to go into the rescue system to save my data, the installer goes through the warning to save my data and replace the drive,
The installer tells you what?? I don't understand how it can tell you that.
then hangs when it tries to load via82cxxx, even when I give the kernel parameter "brokenmodules=via82cxxx", as the installer advises during boot.
Are you trying to install or boot a rescue system? The procedure would depend on the exact type of problem smart have detected; but typically it would be to boot any rescue CD in text mode, and use dd_rescue to copy all that HD into images on another HD. Once the images were copied and safe, it would be the time to run tests on the possibly broken HD, not before.
So, is it safe to say my motherboard is broken, and the hard drive probably ok? Or are the problems independent, implying that both broke at about the same time?
Probably independent, unless the IDE chipset is involved. Perhaps the DVD is bad. There was a problem with the 10.3 DVD rescue system, some bad bug. I don't know which bug exactly. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH8Ek5tTMYHG2NR9URAn1RAJ979K8z3uYDuxKOwSBNn3t+XKmwGACdHvCK Z9Y1sCMuVP8IgddSg38SAdI= =Mp52 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On March 29, 2008 07:17:38 pm j.e.perry@cox.net wrote:
I have a desktop with an Asus K8V-X SE motherboard. It recently stopped booting, saying the hard drive failed smart tests.
But when I try to go into the rescue system to save my data, the installer goes through the warning to save my data and replace the drive, then hangs when it tries to load via82cxxx, even when I give the kernel parameter "brokenmodules=via82cxxx", as the installer advises during boot.
So, is it safe to say my motherboard is broken, and the hard drive probably ok? Or are the problems independent, implying that both broke at about the same time?
John Perry
Hard drives are so cheap these days - a 750 GB SATA drive for about $120 - that it's not worth futzing with an old drive - UNLESS you have data saved on it you don't want to lose. I'd run Spinrite against it first - it's a non-destructive drive repair program you can get at grc.com. Some people have also had luck with taking the drive out and trying to read it on another system. You can also look at your SMART settings - see the article How do I make SMART Reports stop? in o.o.s.-support-general-applications in novell newsgroups. I rsync all my drives to a 750GB USB drive, myself, for that reason. -- Robert Smits CEP525G Nanaimo, Duncan & District Labour Council Box 822 Nanaimo, V9R 5N2 Ph 250-753-0201 Fax 250-753-2954 Email labour@telus.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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