[opensuse] Opensuse 12.3 - device manager
hi Since installing 12.3, everytime i logon, device manager pops up and presents me with a 0B removable media (has floppy disk icon) and 3 options on how to deal with it. I don't actually have a floppy disk drive but i think there is a socket on the motherboard for one if i decided to regress.... Its not a problem but its a little annoying - does anyone have any ideas how to stop it happening? regards Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/14/2013 03:16 PM, ianseeks wrote:
Since installing 12.3, everytime i logon, device manager pops up and presents me with a 0B removable media (has floppy disk icon) and 3 options on how to deal with it. I don't actually have a floppy disk drive but i think there is a socket on the motherboard for one if i decided to regress....
Its not a problem but its a little annoying - does anyone have any ideas how to stop it happening?
Probably deactivating floppy support in the BIOS would work. Have a nice day, Berny -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 Mar 2013 15:19:42 Bernhard Voelker wrote:
On 03/14/2013 03:16 PM, ianseeks wrote:
Since installing 12.3, everytime i logon, device manager pops up and presents me with a 0B removable media (has floppy disk icon) and 3 options on how to deal with it. I don't actually have a floppy disk drive but i think there is a socket on the motherboard for one if i decided to regress....
Its not a problem but its a little annoying - does anyone have any ideas how to stop it happening?
Probably deactivating floppy support in the BIOS would work.
Thanks. i'll give it a try.
Have a nice day, Berny -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 Mar 2013 15:19:42 Bernhard Voelker wrote:
On 03/14/2013 03:16 PM, ianseeks wrote:
Since installing 12.3, everytime i logon, device manager pops up and presents me with a 0B removable media (has floppy disk icon) and 3 options on how to deal with it. I don't actually have a floppy disk drive but i think there is a socket on the motherboard for one if i decided to regress....
Its not a problem but its a little annoying - does anyone have any ideas how to stop it happening?
Probably deactivating floppy support in the BIOS would work.
It did, thanks.
Have a nice day, Berny -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
В Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:54:28 +0000 ianseeks <ianseeks@dsl.pipex.com> пишет:
On Thursday 14 Mar 2013 15:19:42 Bernhard Voelker wrote:
On 03/14/2013 03:16 PM, ianseeks wrote:
Since installing 12.3, everytime i logon, device manager pops up and presents me with a 0B removable media (has floppy disk icon) and 3 options on how to deal with it. I don't actually have a floppy disk drive but i think there is a socket on the motherboard for one if i decided to regress....
Its not a problem but its a little annoying - does anyone have any ideas how to stop it happening?
Probably deactivating floppy support in the BIOS would work.
It did, thanks.
There is apparently some change either in kernel or in how kernel modules are loaded in 12.3. Users also suddenly started to report that YaST2 bootloader hangs in 12.3 on a system where 12.2 worked. Deactivating floppy controller fixed it as well. Personally I think it warrants bug report to investigate what's going on. But this requires matching hardware *and* both 12.2 and 12.3 on it to be able to compare ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 16 Mar 2013 08:25:17 Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
В Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:54:28 +0000
ianseeks <ianseeks@dsl.pipex.com> пишет:
On Thursday 14 Mar 2013 15:19:42 Bernhard Voelker wrote:
On 03/14/2013 03:16 PM, ianseeks wrote:
Since installing 12.3, everytime i logon, device manager pops up and presents me with a 0B removable media (has floppy disk icon) and 3 options on how to deal with it. I don't actually have a floppy disk drive but i think there is a socket on the motherboard for one if i decided to regress....
Its not a problem but its a little annoying - does anyone have any ideas how to stop it happening?
Probably deactivating floppy support in the BIOS would work.
It did, thanks.
There is apparently some change either in kernel or in how kernel modules are loaded in 12.3. Users also suddenly started to report that YaST2 bootloader hangs in 12.3 on a system where 12.2 worked. Deactivating floppy controller fixed it as well.
When i installed 12.3 the "probing file systems" bit took about 15/20 minutes to get through. I thought it was something to do with the SSD i have as the first disk, maybe it was the Floppy Disk causing the problems. I'll boot the 12.3 ISO again and see if it gets quicker now the floppy is disabled
Personally I think it warrants bug report to investigate what's going on. But this requires matching hardware *and* both 12.2 and 12.3 on it to be able to compare ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-03-16 12:29, ianseeks wrote:
When i installed 12.3 the "probing file systems" bit took about 15/20 minutes to get through. I thought it was something to do with the SSD i have as the first disk, maybe it was the Floppy Disk causing the problems. I'll boot the 12.3 ISO again and see if it gets quicker now the floppy is disabled
Yesterday I tried to read a floppy on this 12.1 install. The kernel OOPsed and "mount" locked. Had to kill nine it. It is possible that kernel code to read floppies is broken currently. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlFEe3sACgkQIvFNjefEBxoB5ACgtHU806bBpWV8AdCBiiXTZpOy xPAAniVZJ4d8+NmxflPdItdc6+q2DD/W =PjMI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:16:57 -0000, ianseeks <ianseeks@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
hi
Since installing 12.3, everytime i logon, device manager pops up and presents me with a 0B removable media (has floppy disk icon) and 3 options on how to deal with it. I don't actually have a floppy disk drive but i think there is a socket on the motherboard for one if i decided to regress....
Its not a problem but its a little annoying - does anyone have any ideas how to stop it happening?
regards
Ian
Disable floppy in BIOS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 Mar 2013 14:22:05 Carl Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:16:57 -0000, ianseeks <ianseeks@dsl.pipex.com>
wrote:
hi
Since installing 12.3, everytime i logon, device manager pops up and presents me with a 0B removable media (has floppy disk icon) and 3 options on how to deal with it. I don't actually have a floppy disk drive but i think there is a socket on the motherboard for one if i decided to regress....
Its not a problem but its a little annoying - does anyone have any ideas how to stop it happening?
regards
Ian
Disable floppy in BIOS
Thanks. i'll give it a try. 12.2 and previous releases didn;t have this problem -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-03-14 14:36 (GMT) ianseeks composed:
Carl Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:16:57 -0000, ianseeks wrote:
Since installing 12.3, everytime i logon, device manager pops up and presents me with a 0B removable media (has floppy disk icon) and 3 options on how to deal with it. I don't actually have a floppy disk drive but i think there is a socket on the motherboard for one if i decided to regress....
Its not a problem but its a little annoying - does anyone have any ideas how to stop it happening?
Disable floppy in BIOS
Thanks. i'll give it a try. 12.2 and previous releases didn;t have this problem
It came to attention late in 12.2 devel cycle, about the time it was originally scheduled for release: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=773058 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 Mar 2013 14:22:05 Carl Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:16:57 -0000, ianseeks <ianseeks@dsl.pipex.com>
wrote:
hi
Since installing 12.3, everytime i logon, device manager pops up and presents me with a 0B removable media (has floppy disk icon) and 3 options on how to deal with it. I don't actually have a floppy disk drive but i think there is a socket on the motherboard for one if i decided to regress....
Its not a problem but its a little annoying - does anyone have any ideas how to stop it happening?
regards
Ian
Disable floppy in BIOS
that works. thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 14/03/13 11:16, ianseeks escribió:
hi
Since installing 12.3, everytime i logon, device manager pops up and presents me with a 0B removable media (has floppy disk icon) and 3 options on how to deal with it. I don't actually have a floppy disk drive but i think there is a socket on the motherboard for one if i decided to regress....
Its not a problem but its a little annoying - does anyone have any ideas how to stop it happening?
This is a BIOS bug but I doubt bios vendors will ever fix this. other than disabling the floppy drive in the bios.. blacklisting the floppy driver might also work. It is a really annoying considering that no one sane will ever use a floppy drive anymore. kernel-desktop should probably just ship with this thing disabled. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-03-14 14:59 (GMT-0300) Cristian Rodríguez composed:
It is a really annoying considering that no one sane will ever use a floppy drive anymore. kernel-desktop should probably just ship with this thing disabled.
One need not be sane to run openSUSE on a PC. :-) More than 75% of the PCs I run Linux on have working floppy drives, including the two I run 24/7. They probably get used more often than the OM drives. I most often use them to save logs from failed test (Cauldron/Cooker/Factory/Rawhide) installations, and for booting DOS, like to upgrade a BIOS, diagnose a possible HD failure, or initialize a virgin HD. USB is a nuisance because the media provide no room to write anything useful on. If it fits a floppy, that's what I use instead of USB, assuming no available network. Besides all that, I have lots of floppies in boxes made to fit and store. Sticks have to be bought, and have non-uniform storage needs. :-p -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
On 2013-03-14 14:59 (GMT-0300) Cristian Rodríguez composed:
It is a really annoying considering that no one sane will ever use a floppy drive anymore. kernel-desktop should probably just ship with this thing disabled.
One need not be sane to run openSUSE on a PC. :-) More than 75% of the PCs I run Linux on have working floppy drives, including the two I run 24/7. They probably get used more often than the OM drives. I most often use them to save logs from failed test (Cauldron/Cooker/Factory/Rawhide) installations, and for booting DOS, like to upgrade a BIOS, diagnose a possible HD failure, or initialize a virgin HD.
You had me until this:
USB is a nuisance because the media provide no room to write anything useful on. If it fits a floppy, that's what I use instead of USB, assuming no available network.
So you're able to get more data onto a 1.44 MB floppy disk than you can a USB stick of gigabytes in size? How do you manage to accomplish this? Is there some other way to interpret what you've said here? -- Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
USB is a nuisance because the media provide no room to write anything useful on. If it fits a floppy, that's what I use instead of USB, assuming no available network.
So you're able to get more data onto a 1.44 MB floppy disk than you can a USB stick of gigabytes in size? How do you manage to accomplish this? Is there some other way to interpret what you've said here?
Chris, He's talking about physical labels and a physical pen. I use little tie wraps and manilla tags: http://www.etsy.com/listing/40531027/100-large-manila-hang-tags-sz-5 I like big tags, so the ones I use are about half the size of a floppy. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-03-15 02:32, Greg Freemyer wrote:
I use little tie wraps and manilla tags: http://www.etsy.com/listing/40531027/100-large-manila-hang-tags-sz-5
I
use APLI Ref 7011 myself :-) I'd prefer some type of plastic tags, but did not find any, and the shop keepers do not even know what I'm asking for till I describe that I want to label pendrives. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlFCf6EACgkQja8UbcUWM1xPfgD8CF28YhB+s/WmYA6BgLHKDp/t cAKphdf5hcYnYo1ebaAA/A9pKIkdNmhL/SvCAuKOlx5UBHLveH3r2qqUxJso+SXD =gAvw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/14/2013 09:55 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2013-03-15 02:32, Greg Freemyer wrote:
I use little tie wraps and manilla tags: http://www.etsy.com/listing/40531027/100-large-manila-hang-tags-sz-5 use APLI Ref 7011 myself :-)
I'd prefer some type of plastic tags, but did not find any, and the shop keepers do not even know what I'm asking for till I describe that I want to label pendrives.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R It would help if the manufacturers of the thumb drives would include a little piece of plastic with a hole in it, so as to attach some kind of tag. I have a Data Traveler 200 that has that feature, but my other drives don't. (I never thought of tags on a tether, but it would work. I've been cutting out pieces of Avery label and pasting them on.) Of course, the dangling tag would make the drive a bit clumsy. . . .
--doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-03-14 20:46 (GMT-0400) Christofer C. Bell composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
USB is a nuisance because the media provide no room to write anything useful on. If it fits a floppy, that's what I use instead of USB, assuming no available network.
So you're able to get more data onto a 1.44 MB floppy disk than you can a USB stick of gigabytes in size? How do you manage to accomplish this? Is there some other way to interpret what you've said here?
Probably those sentences needed a paragraph break. Write the outside, e.g. with a pen, to know what the media was/is used for, without having to mount it. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 14/03/13 21:17, Felix Miata escribió:
One need not be sane to run openSUSE on a PC. :-)
I see. heh :-) I most often
use them to save logs from failed test (Cauldron/Cooker/Factory/Rawhide) installations, and for booting DOS, like to upgrade a BIOS, diagnose a possible HD failure, or initialize a virgin HD.
And from where you get supplies ? the last floppy disk manufacturing plant shut down in 2011... BIOSes have now builtin flashers or the vendors provide ways to create USB/CD bootable media..
USB is a nuisance because the media provide no room to write anything useful on.
what ??? @_@ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-03-14 22:07 (GMT-0300) Cristian Rodríguez composed: [re: floppies]
And from where you get supplies ? the last floppy disk manufacturing plant shut down in 2011...
Billions were made. My closets and drawers. Freecycle. Garage sales. Yard sales. Estate sales. Goodwill. Retail store inventories. Craigslist. Many of the same sources from which one can get old puters to refurb.
BIOSes have now builtin flashers or the vendors provide ways to create USB/CD bootable media..
"Now", a keyword. Non-exclusive would be another apt descriptor. It was not always thus.
USB is a nuisance because the media provide no room to write anything useful on.
what ??? @_@
Write with something long and skinny in hand. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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