[opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail
Hi: I have a Windows machine which connects to the internet using a Sony Ericsson GPRS card. The internet connection is configured as shared. Using Outlook Express I can send and receive email using my accounts as follows: 1. Gmail 2. pop.secureserver.net port 110 and smtpout.secureserver.net port 80 I have another box running openSUSE 10.2 that is configures to use the Windows machine as its internet gateway. I can surf the web ok, and I can send and receive mail using Evolution from the Gmail account, but not the other account. This box has no firewall in place and DNS is confiured the same as the Windows machine (an external DNS server). I would appreciate it if someone could point to some docs I could read to fix this problem. Thank you and best regards. -- Alfredo Cole-Tuchler Tegucigalpa, Honduras -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:
Hi:
I have a Windows machine which connects to the internet using a Sony Ericsson GPRS card. The internet connection is configured as shared. Using Outlook Express I can send and receive email using my accounts as follows:
1. Gmail 2. pop.secureserver.net port 110 and smtpout.secureserver.net port 80
I have another box running openSUSE 10.2 that is configures to use the Windows machine as its internet gateway. I can surf the web ok, and I can send and receive mail using Evolution from the Gmail account, but not the other account. This box has no firewall in place and DNS is confiured the same as the Windows machine (an external DNS server).
I would appreciate it if someone could point to some docs I could read to fix this problem.
Thank you and best regards.
-- Alfredo Cole-Tuchler Tegucigalpa, Honduras
I would put the Linux machine on the direct internet connection, and the Windows machine should use the Linux machine as a gateway. Personally, I don't trust Windows to behave as it is supposed to when dealing with any other O/S. M$ has a long LONG reputation for deliberately fucking up non-MS platforms whenever they can get away with it (see M$'s attemp to hijack Java -- court had to ORDER them to rename it (now C#... yet another deliberate act to create confusion -- this time with C++ -- among decision-makers who might not be technically proficient enough to recognize the difference (hand written "c++" and "c#" look like they could be referring to the same thing). Also, a Windows machine directly connected to the internet without a firewall is just BEGGING for trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if it's spewing spam 24 hours/day. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
El lun, 17-09-2007 a las 02:44 -0400, Aaron Kulkis escribió:
Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:
Hi:
I have a Windows machine which connects to the internet using a Sony Ericsson GPRS card. The internet connection is configured as shared. Using Outlook Express I can send and receive email using my accounts as follows:
1. Gmail 2. pop.secureserver.net port 110 and smtpout.secureserver.net port 80
I have another box running openSUSE 10.2 that is configures to use the Windows machine as its internet gateway. I can surf the web ok, and I can send and receive mail using Evolution from the Gmail account, but not the other account. This box has no firewall in place and DNS is confiured the same as the Windows machine (an external DNS server).
I would appreciate it if someone could point to some docs I could read to fix this problem.
Thank you and best regards.
-- Alfredo Cole-Tuchler Tegucigalpa, Honduras
I would put the Linux machine on the direct internet connection, and the Windows machine should use the Linux machine as a gateway.
Personally, I don't trust Windows to behave as it is supposed to when dealing with any other O/S. M$ has a long LONG reputation for deliberately fucking up non-MS platforms whenever they can get away with it (see M$'s attemp to hijack Java -- court had to ORDER them to rename it (now C#... yet another deliberate act to create confusion -- this time with C++ -- among decision-makers who might not be technically proficient enough to recognize the difference (hand written "c++" and "c#" look like they could be referring to the same thing).
Also, a Windows machine directly connected to the internet without a firewall is just BEGGING for trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if it's spewing spam 24 hours/day.
I live in a rural area, and the only way to connect to the internet is through this wireless GPRS card. The software that drives it is windows-only, and I could not get it to work with Linux. Some help, or a step-by-step instruction to use under Linux would be appreciated. Windows has a firewall in place, and I have managed to solve the problem now by changing the value for MTU on the Linux side. Don't know why for sure, but that did the trick. I can now surf, check and send mail, do updates, etc. Thank you and regards. -- Alfredo Cole-Tuchler Tel. 251-8572 Tegucigalpa -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-16 at 20:55 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:
I have another box running openSUSE 10.2 that is configures to use the Windows machine as its internet gateway. I can surf the web ok, and I can send and receive mail using Evolution from the Gmail account, but not the other account.
I would think you misconfiguration evolution somehow. Do it again. Or the remote pop server is down, or the windows machine is already connected to it. An error message would be good to have. Crystal balls are expensive and unreliable. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG7ljrtTMYHG2NR9URAhn2AJ42uiM97xgt4497Fz+WZLq3ZP1sAACdHeRZ 8RChinrJNEjL5aUnTdzXWkg= =lHgp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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The Sunday 2007-09-16 at 20:55 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:
I have another box running openSUSE 10.2 that is configures to use the Windows machine as its internet gateway. I can surf the web ok, and I can send and receive mail using Evolution from the Gmail account, but not the other account.
I would think you misconfiguration evolution somehow. Do it again. Or the remote pop server is down, or the windows machine is already connected to it.
An error message would be good to have. Crystal balls are expensive and unreliable.
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
It's true. It's even worse here in Honduras. But really, Evolution goes through the process of downloading mail from my Gmail account, and then it says it found, say, two messages from my other account, and just waits until it shows an error message that basically says the connection timed out. If I pop that account from the winbox using outlook express, it downloads the messages fine, so the server is not down. So I'm really baffled. Thank you and regards. -- Alfredo Cole-Tuchler Tegucigalpa, Honduras -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-09-17 at 07:09 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:
It's true. It's even worse here in Honduras. But really, Evolution goes through the process of downloading mail from my Gmail account, and then it says it found, say, two messages from my other account, and just waits until it shows an error message that basically says the connection timed out. If I pop that account from the winbox using outlook express, it downloads the messages fine, so the server is not down. So I'm really baffled.
Try fetchmail. It's similar to a daemon, or runs from a console, it only fetches and then forwards to postfix for local delivery. But it writes very verbose logs if you ask it to. Sample .fetchmailrc file: - -*-*-* set postmaster "cer" set nobouncemail set no spambounce set properties "" set syslog poll nimrodel.valinor with proto imap, timeout 15, and tracepolls user testing, with password a9e6i8o, is cer here, fetchall, and keep, and ssl *-*-*- You call it like "fetchmail -v". Or -v -v for more diagnostic messages. It's man pages are good. Then, you can also trace the connection using wireshark (aka ethereal), both in linux and windows. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG7pHRtTMYHG2NR9URAu+NAJ9eCxblz9Cj9FIUZNioDh9g/WLE3gCfdHsY Q4WT3/TJZUk+DrYbdLVcPwk= =p5Le -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Monday 2007-09-17 at 07:09 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:
It's true. It's even worse here in Honduras. But really, Evolution goes through the process of downloading mail from my Gmail account, and then it says it found, say, two messages from my other account, and just waits until it shows an error message that basically says the connection timed out. If I pop that account from the winbox using outlook express, it downloads the messages fine, so the server is not down. So I'm really baffled.
Try fetchmail.
Another basic debugging technique is just to connect to the POP3 server using telnet and see what happens. But even better would be to turn on logging in Evolution. Does it have logging? How do you turn it on? Sometimes programs give more information if you start them from a console. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
El lun, 17-09-2007 a las 16:40 +0200, Carlos E. R. escribió:
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 07:09 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:
It's true. It's even worse here in Honduras. But really, Evolution goes through the process of downloading mail from my Gmail account, and then it says it found, say, two messages from my other account, and just waits until it shows an error message that basically says the connection timed out. If I pop that account from the winbox using outlook express, it downloads the messages fine, so the server is not down. So I'm really baffled.
Try fetchmail.
It's similar to a daemon, or runs from a console, it only fetches and then forwards to postfix for local delivery. But it writes very verbose logs if you ask it to. (...) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
I tried using Kmail and Thunderbird with exactly the same results. So it was evident it was not an Evolution problem. I googled some more for a different subject and then I found a page saying that MTU value could be the problem. As root, I used "ping -f -l 1500 192.168.0.1" (that is my winbox's IP) and sure enough, there was a message "WARNING: probably, rcvbuf is not enough to hold preload.". I kept trying lower values until I reached 576 for MTU. I went to Yast and set it for eth1, and now, everything works fine. Maybe it will help others with similar problem. Thank you and regards. -- Alfredo Cole-Tuchler Tel. 251-8572 Tegucigalpa -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
participants (5)
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Aaron Kulkis -
Alfredo Cole -
Alfredo Cole-Tuchler
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Carlos E. R. -
Dave Howorth