[opensuse] Is 10.3 Officially DEAD -- or has there been a massive repo failure?
Listmates, I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word. So what's the story? Are the 10.3 build service repositories gone for good or have they been moved to another location in the old repositories directory like 9.3-10.2? The error on refresh that makes me curious is: 13:26 alchemy:~> grep "Skipping\|invalid" repo-error-10.3.txt Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Community' is invalid. Skipping repository 'openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Community' because of the above error. Repository 'sambastable' is invalid. Skipping repository 'sambastable' because of the above error. Repository 'banshee' is invalid. Skipping repository 'banshee' because of the above error. Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Database' is invalid. Skipping repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Database' because of the above error. Repository 'dipe' is invalid. Skipping repository 'dipe' because of the above error. Repository 'openSuSE BuildService - Tools' is invalid. Skipping repository 'openSuSE BuildService - Tools' because of the above error. Repository 'freenx' is invalid. Skipping repository 'freenx' because of the above error. Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - OpenOffice.org' is invalid. Skipping repository 'openSUSE BuildService - OpenOffice.org' because of the above error. Repository 'xllwm' is invalid. Skipping repository 'xllwm' because of the above error. Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla' is invalid. Skipping repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla' because of the above error. Repository 'gnome-comm' is invalid. Skipping repository 'gnome-comm' because of the above error. Repository 'devel:tools:building' is invalid. Skipping repository 'devel:tools:building' because of the above error. Repository 'sambatest' is invalid. Skipping repository 'sambatest' because of the above error. Repository 'kde' is invalid. Skipping repository 'kde' because of the above error. Repository 'enlight' is invalid. Skipping repository 'enlight' because of the above error. Repository 'kde4play' is invalid. Skipping repository 'kde4play' because of the above error. Repository 'KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop' is invalid. Skipping repository 'KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop' because of the above error. Repository 'kde4comm' is invalid. Skipping repository 'kde4comm' because of the above error. Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - PHP' is invalid. Skipping repository 'openSUSE BuildService - PHP' because of the above error. Repository 'kde43' is invalid. Skipping repository 'kde43' because of the above error. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word. So what's the story? Are the 10.3 build service repositories gone for good or have they been moved to another location in the old repositories directory like 9.3-10.2?
Dunno, but I noticed a mention on opensuse-project earlier today. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 23 October 2009 20:30:29 David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word. So what's the story? Are the 10.3 build service repositories gone for good or have they been moved to another location in the old repositories directory like 9.3-10.2?
Since you have an interest in kde4 you should probably subscribe to opensuse- kde as well. This arrived there today: From: Stephan Binner <beineri@opensuse.org> To: opensuse-kde@opensuse.org Date: Today 08:12:07 KDE repositories will be of course affected too, so make backups if necessary. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [opensuse-buildservice] openSUSE 10.3 runs out of maintenance Date: Thursday 22 October 2009 From: Adrian Schröter <adrian@suse.de> To: opensuse-buildservice@opensuse.org Hello, is usual, openeSUSE 10.3 runs out of maintenance and I will remove all repos building against it in OBS. openSUSE:10.3 project has been moved to DISCONTINUED: namespace as announced a while ago. bye adrian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 23 October 2009 01:40:20 pm Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 23 October 2009 20:30:29 David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word. So what's the story? Are the 10.3 build service repositories gone for good or have they been moved to another location in the old repositories directory like 9.3-10.2?
Since you have an interest in kde4 you should probably subscribe to opensuse- kde as well.
This arrived there today:
From: Stephan Binner <beineri@opensuse.org> To: opensuse-kde@opensuse.org Date: Today 08:12:07
KDE repositories will be of course affected too, so make backups if necessary.
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Subject: [opensuse-buildservice] openSUSE 10.3 runs out of maintenance Date: Thursday 22 October 2009 From: Adrian Schröter <adrian@suse.de> To: opensuse-buildservice@opensuse.org
Hello,
is usual, openeSUSE 10.3 runs out of maintenance and I will remove all repos building against it in OBS.
openSUSE:10.3 project has been moved to DISCONTINUED: namespace as announced a while ago.
bye adrian
Thanks Anders, Glad to see 10.3 go to discontinued and not just left in limbo. Now for 11.2... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 01:30:29PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word. So what's the story? Are the 10.3 build service repositories gone for good or have they been moved to another location in the old repositories directory like 9.3-10.2?
Adrian has disabled the 10.3 repos from all projects (a bit early). The projects can readd them from the DISCONTINURD branch. (We basically also need the build power as we lack some powerful buildhosts currently.) 10.3 lives another week only, October 31st is the last day of maintenance. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 20:40 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 01:30:29PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word. So what's the story? Are the 10.3 build service repositories gone for good or have they been moved to another location in the old repositories directory like 9.3-10.2?
Adrian has disabled the 10.3 repos from all projects (a bit early). The projects can readd them from the DISCONTINURD branch.
(We basically also need the build power as we lack some powerful buildhosts currently.)
10.3 lives another week only, October 31st is the last day of maintenance.
Ciao, Marcus Not that long ago (one whole day) i still found 10.2 on the OBS: openSUSE_10.2 files: 1062 openSUSE_10.2 repo's: 25
openSUSE_10.3 files: 92651 openSUSE_10.3 repo's: 1304 hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 01:30:29PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word. So what's the story? Are the 10.3 build service repositories gone for good or have they been moved to another location in the old repositories directory like 9.3-10.2?
Adrian has disabled the 10.3 repos from all projects (a bit early). The projects can readd them from the DISCONTINURD branch.
(We basically also need the build power as we lack some powerful buildhosts currently.)
10.3 lives another week only, October 31st is the last day of maintenance.
Ciao, Marcus
I thought you were going to keep support of 10.3 up until about a month AFTER 11.2 released. Sure would help. Keep up the great work. Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 01:30:29PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word. So what's the story? Are the 10.3 build service repositories gone for good or have they been moved to another location in the old repositories directory like 9.3-10.2?
Adrian has disabled the 10.3 repos from all projects (a bit early). The projects can readd them from the DISCONTINURD branch.
(We basically also need the build power as we lack some powerful buildhosts currently.)
10.3 lives another week only, October 31st is the last day of maintenance.
Ciao, Marcus
This means that all the packages built for 10.3 that were stored at download.opensuse.org/repositories/ were removed and will not be available anymore anywhere. If yes, it is very sad. I understand that because of EOL no new packages will be built but do not see why had to remove all those great and working packages. Making a complete backup of the repository is not easy for everyone. Futhermore I am satisfied with 10.3 and I would not be reluctant to upgrade if there was not that KDE4 issue with the 11.x versions. I do not understand either why one should upgrade if his system works well, and take the risk that something will be broken in the new system. (Eg. I could not make vpnclient/ssh work in 11.1 on the same hardware). Cheers, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Istvan Gabor wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 01:30:29PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word. So what's the story? Are the 10.3 build service repositories gone for good or have they been moved to another location in the old repositories directory like 9.3-10.2? Adrian has disabled the 10.3 repos from all projects (a bit early). The projects can readd them from the DISCONTINURD branch.
(We basically also need the build power as we lack some powerful buildhosts currently.)
10.3 lives another week only, October 31st is the last day of maintenance.
Ciao, Marcus
This means that all the packages built for 10.3 that were stored at download.opensuse.org/repositories/ were removed and will not be available anymore anywhere.
If yes, it is very sad. I understand that because of EOL no new packages will be built but do not see why had to remove all those great and working packages.
Making a complete backup of the repository is not easy for everyone.
Futhermore I am satisfied with 10.3 and I would not be reluctant to upgrade if there was not that KDE4 issue with the 11.x versions. I do not understand either why one should upgrade if his system works well, and take the risk that something will be broken in the new system. (Eg. I could not make vpnclient/ssh work in 11.1 on the same hardware).
Cheers,
Istvan
i understand your point completely and do NOT disagree...i'm running 10.3 as i type and don't like the idea of being forced to move.. however, i can understand the reason for the Novell wanting to push us on toward the newer stuff.. and, that reason is, of course, money....Novell would like to make a profit off of their investment in open source software and purchase of SuSE.. if folks don't have reason to move on to newer versions there there will be no one to find and smash the bugs so a new version of SLES/SLED can bring in more cash... right? dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 16:19 +0100, DenverD wrote:
Istvan Gabor wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 01:30:29PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word. So what's the story? Are the 10.3 build service repositories gone for good or have they been moved to another location in the old repositories directory like 9.3-10.2? Adrian has disabled the 10.3 repos from all projects (a bit early). The projects can readd them from the DISCONTINURD branch.
(We basically also need the build power as we lack some powerful buildhosts currently.)
10.3 lives another week only, October 31st is the last day of maintenance.
Ciao, Marcus
This means that all the packages built for 10.3 that were stored at download.opensuse.org/repositories/ were removed and will not be available anymore anywhere.
If yes, it is very sad. I understand that because of EOL no new packages will be built but do not see why had to remove all those great and working packages.
Making a complete backup of the repository is not easy for everyone.
Futhermore I am satisfied with 10.3 and I would not be reluctant to upgrade if there was not that KDE4 issue with the 11.x versions. I do not understand either why one should upgrade if his system works well, and take the risk that something will be broken in the new system. (Eg. I could not make vpnclient/ssh work in 11.1 on the same hardware).
Cheers,
Istvan
i understand your point completely and do NOT disagree...i'm running 10.3 as i type and don't like the idea of being forced to move..
however, i can understand the reason for the Novell wanting to push us on toward the newer stuff..
and, that reason is, of course, money....Novell would like to make a profit off of their investment in open source software and purchase of SuSE..
No, afaicr, the reason were disk-space and CPU-cycles when rebuilding. Actually, i hoped that 10.3 would be frozen, instead of being trashed. If you are in desperate need for some old rpm's, drop me a line. Still have 67949 openSUSE_10.3 RPM's (1300 different repo's) on my backup from gwdg. The du-a list (just the list, not the rpm's) is on: https://www.minoss.nl/repo_10.3.txt hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 3. November 2009 15:53:47 schrieb Istvan Gabor:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 01:30:29PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word. So what's the story? Are the 10.3 build service repositories gone for good or have they been moved to another location in the old repositories directory like 9.3-10.2?
Adrian has disabled the 10.3 repos from all projects (a bit early). The projects can readd them from the DISCONTINURD branch.
(We basically also need the build power as we lack some powerful buildhosts currently.)
10.3 lives another week only, October 31st is the last day of maintenance.
Ciao, Marcus
This means that all the packages built for 10.3 that were stored at download.opensuse.org/repositories/ were removed and will not be available anymore anywhere.
If yes, it is very sad. I understand that because of EOL no new packages will be built but do not see why had to remove all those great and working packages.
Making a complete backup of the repository is not easy for everyone.
Futhermore I am satisfied with 10.3 and I would not be reluctant to upgrade if there was not that KDE4 issue with the 11.x versions. I do not understand either why one should upgrade if his system works well, and take the risk that something will be broken in the new system. (Eg. I could not make vpnclient/ssh work in 11.1 on the same hardware).
First of all, space on the buildservice is limited, so it is not possible to keep all packages on there. Mirrors could not delete packages not available on the obs anymore, but that's not up to openSUSE. OpenSUSE takes care of the official packages and cannot search the obs for packages to keep as well, since the search itself would already consume time and deciding which ones to keep and which ones not even more so. Because of the limited space available, some repos do not even include debuginfo packages because they would take too much space. Second, those packages were never official, so there quality can differ. On top of that they are now unmaintained which lowers their potential quality even further. If there are security fixes those packages are not updated, yet users might continue using them because they are still available and suffer from the consequences which would then fall back on openSUSE. The reason why openSUSE wants you to move to the next version is not to make money, but to save money, which might come down to the same thing, i.e. make best use of your limited resources. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 24 October 2009 12:00:29 am David C. Rankin wrote:
I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word. So what's the story? Are the 10.3 build service repositories gone for good or have they been moved to another location in the old repositories directory like 9.3-10.2?
this has been posted to the kde mailing list a few days ago: =============== subj.: [opensuse-kde] Fwd: [opensuse-buildservice] openSUSE 10.3 runs out of maintenance sender: Stephan Binner ------------------------------------- KDE repositories will be of course affected too, so make backups if necessary. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [opensuse-buildservice] openSUSE 10.3 runs out of maintenance Date: Thursday 22 October 2009 From: Adrian Schröter <adrian@suse.de> To: opensuse-buildservice@opensuse.org Hello, is usual, openeSUSE 10.3 runs out of maintenance and I will remove all repos building against it in OBS. openSUSE:10.3 project has been moved to DISCONTINUED: namespace as announced a while ago. bye adrian =============== -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> [10-23-09 14:31]:
Listmates,
I suspect that the 10.3 repositories have been deleted with 10.3 reaching EOL, but I thought I would get the official word.
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