Which desktop environment do you prefer?
Hi all, Appologies if anyone considers this a tad annoying, but I rather enjoyed the post about which email client people preferred. Whilst reading one of the latter ones I saw this snip posted by Kevin in reference to Kmail: <snip> How well do you like it when you run it in KDE, rather than in GNOME? <snip> which prompted me to wonder which desktop environment people use/prefer. I have always used KDE, but am now considering having a crack at Gnome or maybe something else dependant on the results from this post. So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :) Thanks Gedi
I began with KDE, but it became a so puzzled desktop (shadows of closed programs used to stay over the desktop) while the very-clear Gnome (Ximian) Desktop attracted me. And I have heard good news about the new Gnome 2 and Nautilus 2.x that my intention to go back to try out KDE again is gone. First, I choosed SuSE because it has a good installer, modular updates as well KDE desktop (it appeared like a very good GUI to substitute Windows). So, I discovered Nautilus (and the UnScalable Gorilla theme) using Gnome. With Ximian everything seems organized. But I'll give KDE another, so fast as I can make it run again (I don't know what happened with KDE after reinstalling my (xsis.rpm) vga driver). I suggest you to try both. a. Gedi escreveu:
Hi all,
Appologies if anyone considers this a tad annoying, but I rather enjoyed the post about which email client people preferred. Whilst reading one of the latter ones I saw this snip posted by Kevin in reference to Kmail:
<snip> How well do you like it when you run it in KDE, rather than in GNOME? <snip>
which prompted me to wonder which desktop environment people use/prefer.
I have always used KDE, but am now considering having a crack at Gnome or maybe something else dependant on the results from this post.
So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
Thanks
Gedi
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On Tuesday 21 January 2003 13:46, Gedi wrote: [...]
I have always used KDE, but am now considering having a crack at Gnome or maybe something else dependant on the results from this post.
So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
Currently, I prefer KDE, because what SuSE provides is well integrated, has plenty of the apps that I use, as well as plenty of others for me to tinker-with/wonder-about. It also comes with KMail, which I favo[u]r as my e-mail program. As well, with the current version of KDE, Konq seems to be as useful and versatile as Nautilus, if not more-so. With that said, however, I must admit that GNOME continues to have, by far, the niftier set of screensavers. :-) I'm only just now getting over 2-1/2 months of crippling X-and-system crashes, so I may pay more attention to GNOME2, now. But my impression has been that KDE 3.x is a smoother desktop experience. Perhaps I would be saying just the reverse if I ran Red Hat, which puts more effort into GNOME-tweaking than KDE. Cheers, /kevin
Gedi wrote:
I have always used KDE, but am now considering having a crack at Gnome or maybe something else dependant on the results from this post.
So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
No desktop environment.. I prefer just using simple light WM called Fluxbox and launch my straight from that. I actually wonder why people are stuck so tightly to GUIs that resemble so much to Win / Mac.. there are many ways to to do things and that common way actually might not be ideal.... Since we all run Linux we have choises and change to test things. Other nice WM's are blackbox, enlightenment and WindowMaker etc... and all are really light, themeable and customisable. My two cents, P_tr
Quoting p_s
Gedi wrote:
I have always used KDE, but am now considering having a crack at Gnome or maybe something else dependant on the results from this post.
So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
No desktop environment.. I prefer just using simple light WM called Fluxbox and launch my straight from that. I actually wonder why people are stuck so tightly to GUIs that resemble so much to Win / Mac.. there are many ways to to do things and that common way actually might not be ideal.... Since we all run Linux we have choises and change to test things.
Other nice WM's are blackbox, enlightenment and WindowMaker etc... and all are really light, themeable and customisable. ================================= I like Ion, personally. Ultra lightweight and fast. I also like Blackbox, but haven't used it in months; quite similar to Fluxbox (I believe they share some code. As you pointed out, WE have CHOICE in Linux!! Best, Mike -- "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." --Muhammad Ali
================================= I like Ion, personally. Ultra lightweight and fast. I also like Blackbox, but haven't used it in months; quite similar to Fluxbox (I believe they share some code. As you pointed out, WE have CHOICE in Linux!! Best, Mike
Precisely... we have choise and I wonder why so many are so biased to have environment that behaves like Win, since I bet there is still lot of improvent possibilities in graphical user interfaces and possibly stepping away from currently common desktop centiric, start-buttoned environments might help to discover more intuitive ways to organize thing and help us doing our job. I don't mean that KDE or Gnome are bad, but there just might be other ways as well P_tr ps. fluxbox is based on blackbox 0.6 source, but build differently and with tabbed windows (e.g. you can group windows and then switch between them by tabs...
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 2:15 pm, p_s wrote: in reply to Micheal:
================================= I like Ion, personally. Ultra lightweight and fast. I also like Blackbox, but haven't used it in months; quite similar to Fluxbox (I believe they share some code. As you pointed out, WE have CHOICE in Linux!! Best, Mike
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ps. fluxbox is based on blackbox 0.6 source, but build differently and with tabbed windows (e.g. you can group windows and then switch between them by tabs...
Micheal and p_s , Where can I get fluxbox, or ion?
My suggestion, to the original post, is to try as many as you can find. They
all offer something a bit different. Also it's more enjoyable to pick which
one you want to work with rather than having the choice made for you.
However i spend most of the time in kde, but do you blackbox and ice as well.
--
Franklin Maurer
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 14:04, p_s wrote:
Gedi wrote:
I have always used KDE, but am now considering having a crack at Gnome or maybe something else dependant on the results from this post.
So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
No desktop environment.. I prefer just using simple light WM called Fluxbox and launch my straight from that. I actually wonder why people are stuck so tightly to GUIs that resemble so much to Win / Mac.. there are many ways to to do things and that common way actually might not be ideal.... Since we all run Linux we have choises and change to test things.
Other nice WM's are blackbox, enlightenment and WindowMaker etc... and all are really light, themeable and customisable.
Given a system that has sufficient-or-better resources to run an integrated desktop enviroment, what do you consider the advantages of a lightweight window manager? I mean, I can see using them for speed when resources are tight or processor is slow... What I'm interested in are the other factors (when speed is not an issue) that make the lightweights more attractive to some people. To me, the only attraction has been "It's different than what I have been using, so it'll be neat to try it for a while." However, if I'm going to use a lightweight, then I need to avoid the apps that I've been using (like kmail), otherwise the app will invoke a lot of KDE underpinnings in order to be able to run, and I might as well be back in KDE, not WM. Also, could someone clarify: If I invoke Enlightenment or Ice from GDM, am I still running some-or-all of GNOME in the background? Or is it just nekkid X with the ewm on top and no other desktop integration underpinnings? To get pure lightweight window managers, do I need to run them only from xdm? /kevin
<snip> How well do you like it when you run it in KDE, rather than in GNOME? <snip>
which prompted me to wonder which desktop environment people use/prefer.
I have always used KDE, but am now considering having a crack at Gnome or maybe something else dependant on the results from this post.
So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
Hmmm risking the Desktop wars eh? I prefer KDE because it presents things on the screen in a way that appeals to me. I also use Gnome from time to time but I don't like it's methods of presenting applications. That is a personal opinion.... and has very little to do with the technical merits of either window manager. Another argument for a particular window manager may be how it uses available resources. KDE is rather RAM hungry in my experience, but I have lots of RAM in my computer. If you are running a system that is a bit on the low side for resources you may be better off with Windowmaker. In my opinion, each window manager has it's merits, just like each mail tool. What you really need to do is try them out, and pick the one that suits the way your mind works... the one that appeals to your sense of what is right for a GUI. C.
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Gedi wrote:
So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
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So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
ssh :) Gnome2, definately. I used KDE2 in SuSE 7.3 and it just seemed sluggish (perhaps my own fault due to misconfiguration). I did a clean install of 8.1 and tried both Gnome2 and KDE3. Gnome2 was much faster and not as flashy (which appeals to me). Gnome2 was even faster when I removed all of KDE3 from my system (kdeinit was being launched when running Gnome until this). I have nothing against KDE, my system simply responds better to Gnome2. Good excuse for a hardware upgrade... Josh
Gedi wrote:
So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
I'm running KDE 3 on this Toshiba laptop, KDE 2 on my slower Vaio and on my office machine I'm running Enlightenment. I like KDE because it makes good use of the limited display area on the laptops .. and I run Enlightenment purely so I can have a much better looking desktop than anybody else in the office ;-) sjb
In a previous message, Gedi wrote:
So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
Gnome2 I've tried KDE2 and 3, Ice, Enlightenment and others. I settled for Gnome2 because it is integrated well, takes what I find to be an intuitive approach to things and has (for me) the superior set of applications. I dislike KDE because (IMO) it takes too much of the Windows way of doing things. Gnome, by contrast, even though it looks very similar, feels very different in operation. The problem answering this question is that this is very much down to personal taste. Most environments do a good job and enable the user to do what they need. Which you prefer depends on the apps you use and the "style" of the environment. And this is one of the Good Things about *nix - you aren't stuck working in a way that is alien to you. John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Knossos: escape the ever-changing labyrinth before the Minotaur catches you!
For me KDE is easy to handle and somewhat for a newbie to transform from M$ to SuSe much more easier Ralph Gedi wrote:
Hi all,
Appologies if anyone considers this a tad annoying, but I rather enjoyed the post about which email client people preferred. Whilst reading one of the latter ones I saw this snip posted by Kevin in reference to Kmail:
<snip> How well do you like it when you run it in KDE, rather than in GNOME? <snip>
which prompted me to wonder which desktop environment people use/prefer.
I have always used KDE, but am now considering having a crack at Gnome or maybe something else dependant on the results from this post.
So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
Thanks
Gedi
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 1:46 pm, Gedi wrote:
So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
For me, it depends. I do all of home stuff on KDE. At work, I use VNC extensively and really like using Blackbox in VNC. For my old slow machines with small amounts of memory (P90 with 32-64 MB of memory), I like icewm since its default theme comes up better than Blackbox on my old cruddy video cards, and I don't want to fuss with it (much). I would encourage you to try several different ones and see for yourself ! Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 6:46 pm, Gedi wrote:
Hi all,
SNIP <<<
So, down to the question.....which desktop environment do you prefer and what are your reasons :)
Thanks
Gedi
Of the "heavyweights" I prefer KDE to Gnome, probably because I have never really made the effort to get to know Gnome properly. But my favourite is the lightweight IceWM. It's an excellent window manager. Of all the lightweights I have tried, I like IceWM the best. It can be configured to exactly how I want it to look and behave. No desktop icons, all the programs I mainly use are started from shortcuts inside folders on the task bar (panel). To sum up, it's so fast, so clean looking and so configureable. Keith Keith
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:51:16 +0000
Keith Powell
But my favourite is the lightweight IceWM. It's an excellent window manager. Of all the lightweights I have tried, I like IceWM the best. It can be configured to exactly how I want it to look and behave. No desktop icons, all the programs I mainly use are started from shortcuts inside folders on the task bar (panel).
To sum up, it's so fast, so clean looking and so configureable.
I do the same thing with fvwm2. I have taken all the goofy apps out of the configuration file, setup a black desktop, have all my apps start from the "left-click-menu", and have a small 10 segment virtual-desktop selection panel in the upper right corner. It is very fast and stable. It's only 400k. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
zentara wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:51:16 +0000 Keith Powell
wrote: But my favourite is the lightweight IceWM. It's an excellent window manager.
I do the same thing with fvwm2. I have taken all the goofy apps out of the configuration file, setup a black desktop, have all my apps start from the "left-click-menu", and have a small 10 segment virtual-desktop selection panel in the upper right corner.
It is very fast and stable. It's only 400k. I agree with fvwm2. Images and apps are easy to setup. Wallpaper is easy. xterms expand. It does not resemble Windows - thank goodness! It is not a memory hog. It loads fast. It just works!
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participants (16)
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Adagilson B B da Silva
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Andy Stewart
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Clayton Cornell
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Donn aka N5XWB
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Franklin Maurer
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Gedi
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John Pettigrew
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Josh Trutwin
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Keith Powell
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Kevin McLauchlan
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Michael Scottaline
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p_s
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Ralph Robinson
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Robt. Miller
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sjb
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zentara