[opensuse] Do I have an m2 SSD slot?
Dear all, I have an ASUS K501 UX laptop. Since the K501 UB model has an m2 slot, I suspect this one also has. But how can I decide it from command line, without opening up the box? Thanks, Albert ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 24/08/2020 à 19:13, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu a écrit :
Dear all,
I have an ASUS K501 UX laptop. Since the K501 UB model has an m2 slot, I suspect this one also has. But how can I decide it from command line, without opening up the box?
https://www.asus.com/Laptops/K501UX/specifications/ says m2 sata, probably in addition of standard sata for hdd disks (can hold also a sata ssd) only the invoice can say what is in the box, but the interface should be there If the m2 slot is used, hwinfo --disk will show you the brand/model name of the disk. I don't know how to get the interface info :-( jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-08-24 11:13 a.m., oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:
Dear all,
I have an ASUS K501 UX laptop. Since the K501 UB model has an m2 slot, I suspect this one also has. But how can I decide it from command line, without opening up the box?
According to the ASUS website, yes it does. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On 2020-08-24 11:13 a.m., oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:
Dear all,
I have an ASUS K501 UX laptop. Since the K501 UB model has an m2 slot, I suspect this one also has. But how can I decide it from command line, without opening up the box?
According to the ASUS website, yes it does.
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Thanks! I did not think of consulting the Asus page. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/24/20 12:13 PM, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:
ASUS K501 UX
Yes, https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/K501UX/specifications/ Though it appears to be listed as using 128 or 256G variant. Maybe documentation is just old. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-08-24 5:19 p.m., David C. Rankin wrote:
On 8/24/20 12:13 PM, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:
ASUS K501 UX
Yes,
https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/K501UX/specifications/
Though it appears to be listed as using 128 or 256G variant. Maybe documentation is just old.
I took that as listing the options available from the manufacturer. I looked around a bit for more complete information than ASUS lists, but didn't find any. It should still be possible to replace the manufacturer-installed drive with something a little more practical, ie. larger. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On 2020-08-24 5:19 p.m., David C. Rankin wrote:
On 8/24/20 12:13 PM, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:
ASUS K501 UX
Yes,
https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/K501UX/specifications/
Though it appears to be listed as using 128 or 256G variant. Maybe documentation is just old.
I took that as listing the options available from the manufacturer. I looked around a bit for more complete information than ASUS lists, but didn't find any. It should still be possible to replace the manufacturer-installed drive with something a little more practical, ie. larger.
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I have a 1TB HDD, it is sufficient for me. But it is a bit sluggish by now, so I want speed. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-08-25 7:58 a.m., oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:
I have a 1TB HDD, it is sufficient for me. But it is a bit sluggish by now, so I want speed.
With a separate drive for data storage, a 256 GB SSD will be more than enough for the operating system and all your applications software, plus a decent-sized swap partition. I don't think anyone has mentioned the SSD form factor for this computer; it is the 2280. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 25/08/2020 à 16:56, Darryl Gregorash a écrit :
I don't think anyone has mentioned the SSD form factor for this computer; it is the 2280.
2280 is the longer allowed (numbers are size: width + lengh), smaller ones fit also jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 25/08/2020 à 15:58, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu a écrit :
I have a 1TB HDD, it is sufficient for me. But it is a bit sluggish by now, so I want speed.
I have a computer with sata & msata slots. I had two disks for long, because the main hdd disk was difficult to change, but finally I setup one ssd and I'm glad with it recently I ordered this one, as 1Tb ssd: https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/32820373332.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.39ac6c... no need to cope with two disks jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 25/08/2020 à 01:19, David C. Rankin a écrit :
On 8/24/20 12:13 PM, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:
ASUS K501 UX
Yes,
https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/K501UX/specifications/
Though it appears to be listed as using 128 or 256G variant. Maybe documentation is just old.
if there is a disk in the m2 slot, it can be identified (hwinfo) and so the manufacturer will say the kind. but is it possible to list *unused* slots? M2, msata, are only mechanically different slots, is there a way to know which is what from Linux? I know for sure that some computers, cheap version, lack some mechanical ports. I recently openned one that had only one ram slot, when the place for the second slot was clearly visible on the mobo :-( for the OP: I have a similar (but older) Asus computer. It's not too difficult to open, only screws to remove all around and all is visible. Seems to be the same on yours. if none is blocked by a waranty sticker, you can open to look in. some examples as clues: https://www.culte.org/pmwiki/?n=Rubriques.CommentDMonterUnPCPortable thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Le 25/08/2020 à 01:19, David C. Rankin a écrit :
On 8/24/20 12:13 PM, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:
ASUS K501 UX
Yes,
https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/K501UX/specifications/
Though it appears to be listed as using 128 or 256G variant. Maybe documentation is just old.
if there is a disk in the m2 slot, it can be identified (hwinfo) and so the manufacturer will say the kind.
but is it possible to list *unused* slots?
M2, msata, are only mechanically different slots, is there a way to know which is what from Linux?
I know for sure that some computers, cheap version, lack some mechanical ports. I recently openned one that had only one ram slot, when the place for the second slot was clearly visible on the mobo :-(
for the OP: I have a similar (but older) Asus computer. It's not too difficult to open, only screws to remove all around and all is visible. Seems to be the same on yours. if none is blocked by a waranty sticker, you can open to look in.
some examples as clues:
https://www.culte.org/pmwiki/?n=Rubriques.CommentDMonterUnPCPortable
thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org
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Well, it is well over warranty, some 5 years old. If there exists the than it is empty. I have only one HDD installed.I am looking at the online catalogs and see there are two kinds of M2 panelswith 2 and piece plug. are they interchangeable? ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 25/08/2020 à 16:03, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu a écrit :
Well, it is well over warranty, some 5 years old.
same I mine (N550JK) If there exists the than it is empty. yes, I would like to be able to see if there is an empty slot. These very small slots are often hidden :-) I have only one HDD installed.I am looking at the
online catalogs and see there are two kinds of M2 panelswith 2 and piece plug. are they interchangeable?
nope. You have NGFF/sata ones, nearly identical with usual sata, size excepted, and NVME PCIe, much faster ones. Not compatibles, all m2, may even have the same connector. Some computers may have both interfaces in the same connector, but I never had seen one. jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/25/20 11:33 AM, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 25/08/2020 à 16:03, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu a écrit :
Well, it is well over warranty, some 5 years old.
same I mine (N550JK)
If there exists the than it is empty.
yes, I would like to be able to see if there is an empty slot. These very small slots are often hidden :-)
I have only one HDD installed.I am looking at the
online catalogs and see there are two kinds of M2 panelswith 2 and piece plug. are they interchangeable?
nope. You have NGFF/sata ones, nearly identical with usual sata, size excepted, and NVME PCIe, much faster ones. Not compatibles, all m2, may even have the same connector. Some computers may have both interfaces in the same connector, but I never had seen one.
jdd
Yep, my mobo uses one connector that supports a 2242/2260/2280/22110 M keyed card. This is a Ryzen board with the M.2 controller on the CPU not the chipset and it supports either PCIe 3.0 x4 (so NVME) or SATA 3.0 SSD's, on an internal switch. Note that if your older board does not support PCIe 3.0 or higher, then NVME is not supported and your SSD will use the much slower AHCI. I think that hwinfo --pci can see the device, but it is very difficult to identify unless the M.2 is populated. On my machine, it is identified as a "bridge" type device under the CPU (not the chipset) providing an "internal PCIe bridge". If populated, hwinfo --storage should show it using either the ahci (sata or older pcie) or nvme driver. Only the manual/specs can tell you the interfaces and form factors supported. --dg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On 8/25/20 11:33 AM, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 25/08/2020 à 16:03, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu a écrit :
Well, it is well over warranty, some 5 years old.
same I mine (N550JK)
If there exists the than it is empty.
yes, I would like to be able to see if there is an empty slot. These very small slots are often hidden :-)
I have only one HDD installed.I am looking at the
online catalogs and see there are two kinds of M2 panelswith 2 and piece plug. are they interchangeable?
nope. You have NGFF/sata ones, nearly identical with usual sata, size excepted, and NVME PCIe, much faster ones. Not compatibles, all m2, may even have the same connector. Some computers may have both interfaces in the same connector, but I never had seen one.
jdd
Yep, my mobo uses one connector that supports a 2242/2260/2280/22110 M keyed card. This is a Ryzen board with the M.2 controller on the CPU not the chipset and it supports either PCIe 3.0 x4 (so NVME) or SATA 3.0 SSD's, on an internal switch. Note that if your older board does not support PCIe 3.0 or higher, then NVME is not supported and your SSD will use the much slower AHCI.
I think that hwinfo --pci can see the device, but it is very difficult to identify unless the M.2 is populated. On my machine, it is identified as a "bridge" type device under the CPU (not the chipset) providing an "internal PCIe bridge". If populated, hwinfo --storage should show it using either the ahci (sata or older pcie) or nvme driver. Only the manual/specs can tell you the interfaces and form factors supported.
--dg
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Thanks! Possibly openeing up laptop and cheking it will be the best way to find out what m2 do I have ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
oszko@... composed on 2020-08-25 16:03 (UTC+0200):
On 8/24/20, oszko@... wrote:
I am looking at the online catalogs and see there are two kinds of M2 panelswith 2 and piece plug. are they interchangeable?
Your question isn't clear, but it's slightly complicated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2#/media/File:M2_Edge_Connector_Keying.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2 -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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oszko@... composed on 2020-08-25 16:03 (UTC+0200):
On 8/24/20, oszko@... wrote:
I am looking at the online catalogs and see there are two kinds of M2 panelswith 2 and piece plug. are they interchangeable?
Your question isn't clear, but it's slightly complicated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2#/media/File:M2_Edge_Connector_Keying.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2 -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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Sorry for the ambiguous wording, but fortunately you got it right. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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