It would appear that on Sep 11, Malcolm did say:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:20:47 -0400 "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" wrote:

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So now I'm thinking maybe the "openSUSE BuildService" repositories like, for example: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/xfce/openSUSE_11.3/ may actually contain the resulting binary packages compiled specifically for openSUSE 11.3???

Would somebody kindly let me know if I got any of that right?

Hi Yes you are correct :)

You can even see the data on what/how it's built here; https://build.opensuse.org/project/packages?project=X11%3Axfce

More here; https://build.opensuse.org/project/list_public

Currently the openSUSE Build Service hosts 14,939 projects, with 99,537 packages, in 24,877 repositories and is used by 24,649 confirmed users.

You can also search here; http://software.opensuse.org/search?

To extend the search to home users, select the '(search options)

Thanks! Even I should be able to figure out a use for some of those links. One thing though the project list link above doesn't list anything to do with Enlightenment, though the search link finds "enlightenment-1.0.0-5.1" in both i586 & x86_64 rpms for 11.3... I'm not really sure about E's version numbers (I don't write it, I just use it) and the description given doesn't tell me if it's E16 or E17... I do know that when I first installed 11.3 (just last month) all yast's software manager could find was e16 which it called ver 20100516_r48925-3.1 But now when I look I'm finding more stuff. Searching for enlightenment now found that ver 1.0.0-5.1... For the heck of it I selected it and it pulled in several other packages. Then I searched for e17 and got a much smaller list including an already selected "e17 desktop shell" which is my first clue that ver 1.0.0-5.1 is e17 not e16... But it seems I'm going to need to know the package names intimately to find things however. For example there's a utility called emprint from one of the enlightenment versions (I think e17) That I like to use to add screen shot capability to bash scripts which I can then use without having to touch that durned rodent pointing device. Well anyway I remember that when I played with that search link you included above it didn't find anything for emprint, nor did it show up in yast's software managements searches for enlightenment, e17, or e16, but when I searched specifically for emprint with yast, it found it... I do wish there was a good way to search/browse for software packages by descriptions of what they do rather than having to know what they are named. It would help regular Joe-users discover new software choices they were not previously familiar with. Ah well, beggars can't be choosers. I'm just glad to have discovered that e17 is now available and also emprint... Now what I gotta do is send this email and then accept yast's installation list... Like I said. Thanks again! -- | --- ___ | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ~\___/~ <> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

It would appear that on Sep 12, Tejas Guruswamy did say:

On 12/09/10 01:43, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: --<snip>--

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But it seems I'm going to need to know the package names intimately to find things however. For example there's a utility called emprint from one of the enlightenment versions (I think e17) That I like to use to add screen shot capability to bash scripts which I can then use without having to touch that durned rodent pointing device. Well anyway I remember that when I played with that search link you included above it didn't find anything for emprint, nor did it show up in yast's software managements searches for enlightenment, e17, or e16, but when I searched specifically for emprint with yast, it found it...

I do wish there was a good way to search/browse for software packages by descriptions of what they do rather than having to know what they are named. It would help regular Joe-users discover new software choices they were not previously familiar with. --<snip>--

Did you look at the "Description" tab in the lower-right of the Yast2 software installation window? It shows a long description of whatever package you have selected.

Yes I had... And for example that "enlightenment-1.0.0-5.1" didn't say anything about it's being E17 anywheres in the description field. But I'll admit in retrospect it did have one clue I should have noticed. At the bottom of that description field there is an Authors list that included the Rasterman " Carsten Haitzler " Which I should have remembered was an e17 mastermind. But anyone not already familiar with that fact couldn't tell from the description that enlightenment-1.0.0-5.1" wasn't an e16 version... However You got me thinking about description fields and when I added "[x] Description" to the search in field list Searching for "Enlightenment" finds the "E17 - Next generation Desktop Shell" package. Though I still have to "just know" to search specifically for Emprint to find it. Which is probably because the only place enlightenment is mentioned in the emprint package info is under the tech data tab where "package Group:" says "System/GUI/Enlightenment/Tools"...

Also, in the top-left, click the "View" dropdown and add the "Patterns", "Package Groups", and "RPM Groups" tabs - they may help you find new packages as they group software by purpose.

Now those View settings look very very useful... Now I'm kicking myself in the head (or would be if I was just a little bit more nimble) for not experimenting with those view settings the first time I opened yast's software management tool... ;-7 Thanks! -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <*> <*> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org