[opensuse][42.2] What is an LXQt session?
I'm a KDE user totally unsatisfied with Plasma 5, so am trying to explore alternatives with KDE3 unavailable in 42.2. When I select an LXQt session in the greeter in a fresh 42.2 minimal X installation, with patterns-openSUSE-lxqt installed by zypper after the initial installation, a popup opens wanting to know what default window manager I want to use. Then a file picker opens to /usr/bin/. What exactly should one be looking for to answer this prompt? How or why does an LXQt session not qualify as or include some window manager by default? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Felix, On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 03:33:02 -0400 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
When I select an LXQt session in the greeter in a fresh 42.2 minimal X installation, with patterns-openSUSE-lxqt installed by zypper after the initial installation, a popup opens wanting to know what default window manager I want to use. Then a file picker opens to /usr/bin/. What exactly should one be looking for to answer this prompt? How or why does an LXQt session not qualify as or include some window manager by default?
LXQt is the desktop environment, lxqt-session handles the session, and by default it uses Openbox as window manager. (You can also use kwin if you prefer this). Usually I install LXQt as you described above: I use the minimal X, select the LXQt schema upon installation. After intsallation I boot up and land in TWM. I open YaST and go open the /etc/sysconfig editor. Under Desktop -> DISPLAYMANAGER I select lightdm and from then on I can start LXQt. Actually I never had to specify which window manager to use myself as Openbox is installed automatically via the pattern and then detected by LXQt. Can you please ellaborate a bit how exactly this happened in your case? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Michael Vetter composed on 2016-10-25 21:17 (UTC+0200):
On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 03:33:02 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:
When I select an LXQt session in the greeter in a fresh 42.2 minimal X installation, with patterns-openSUSE-lxqt installed by zypper after the initial installation, a popup opens wanting to know what default window manager I want to use. Then a file picker opens to /usr/bin/. What exactly should one be looking for to answer this prompt? How or why does an LXQt session not qualify as or include some window manager by default?
LXQt is the desktop environment, lxqt-session handles the session, and by default it uses Openbox as window manager. (You can also use kwin if you prefer this).
Usually I install LXQt as you described above: I use the minimal X, select the LXQt schema upon installation. After intsallation I boot up and land in TWM. I open YaST and go open the /etc/sysconfig editor. Under Desktop -> DISPLAYMANAGER I select lightdm and from then on I can start LXQt.
Actually I never had to specify which window manager to use myself as Openbox is installed automatically via the pattern and then detected by LXQt. Can you please ellaborate a bit how exactly this happened in your case?
At this point (on host big31), the only installed DM rpms are xdm and lxdm, and the only zypp dm locks are sddm, sddm-branding-openSUSE and kdm-branding-openSUSE. For now, as I usually do on test machines, I'm booting to multi-user.target and using startx. It seems the lxqt session has no requirement that its default WM (openbox) rpm(s) actually be installed, so here, it (openbox) isn't. The configuration that follows, keeping the installation lean, which has no installation time option to configure that I could ever find, is why I install minimal X in the first place: # grep -v ^\# /etc/zypp/zyp*f | egrep 'onlyR|llRec' /etc/zypp/zypp.conf: solver.onlyRequires = true /etc/zypp/zypper.conf: installRecommends = no I tried using the filepicker to select icewm, but it didn't solve the problem of getting a GUI session successfully started. Somehow, somewhere I remember not, I found to set window_manager= in /etc/xdg/lxqt/session.conf to icewm instead of openbox. That gets X to start, but before I can reach lxqt I have to quit the IceWM session that opens, which leaves running an lxqt session that was mostly hiding underneath. I tried changing window_manager=icewm to window_manager=xdm-xsession, but even after reboot I got IceWM on top of lxqt. Then I switched from xdm-session to xsession. It too produces IceWM on top of lxqt, and so does twm. Obviously at this point I could fix this installation by installing the openbox "pattern" and changing /etc/xdg/lxqt/session.conf back to openbox. I think at some point at least it would be to find, or get created if not existing, readily discoverable documentation of valid values for window_manager=. Ideally would be included the integrated type as found in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf, /etc/zypp/zypper.conf, kdmrc, wgetrc, /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager, /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager and various other config files. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:35:44 -0400 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
It seems the lxqt session has no requirement that its default WM (openbox) rpm(s) actually be installed, so here, it (openbox) isn't. The configuration that follows, keeping the installation lean, which has no installation time option to configure that I could ever find, is why I install minimal X in the first place:
# grep -v ^\# /etc/zypp/zyp*f | egrep 'onlyR|llRec' /etc/zypp/zypp.conf: solver.onlyRequires = true /etc/zypp/zypper.conf: installRecommends = no Well, since the window manager is exchangable Openbox is not required but recommended as can be seen in the pattern https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/system:install:head/patterns-op...
Only the cor LXQt components are required the rest is recommended so users who want really minimal systems can tweak it. If you want to have the whole desktop out of the box then you need to install the whole pattern as it is provided. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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