I have 6 486Dx2 boxes that are going to be sent to 3 high schools in Ethiopia from the US. 16megs of 72pin ram, 200Mbytes hard drives, no cd-roms. I do have a budget fo up to $150 per machine for upgrades. Seeking input from the group on what an ideal configuration, both hardware and software, might be for this use. The schools have nothing at present. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hi, On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Jim Bruer wrote:
I have 6 486Dx2 boxes that are going to be sent to 3 high schools in Ethiopia from the US. 16megs of 72pin ram, 200Mbytes hard drives, no cd-roms. I do have a budget fo up to $150 per machine for upgrades. Seeking input from the group on what an ideal configuration, both hardware and software, might be for this use. The schools have nothing at present.
Depends, what theses boxes are supposed to do. More RAM and hard disk space is what I would recommend. Have at least 32MB, if you want to get some serious work done. 200MB is also very tight, if you want to use them as workstations. Bye, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer 90443 Nuernberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Would it make sense to set up one machine as a Xwindows/thinclient (we have spare network cards) and upgrade the other machine as a server with new, motherboard, memory, processor and HD, and adding Cd-rom. These will be workstations for students and staff. Doing office applications and some intro to programming kinds of things.
On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Jim Bruer wrote:
I have 6 486Dx2 boxes that are going to be sent to 3 high schools in Ethiopia from the US. 16megs of 72pin ram, 200Mbytes hard drives, no cd-roms. I do have a budget fo up to $150 per machine for upgrades. Seeking input from the group on what an ideal configuration, both hardware and software, might be for this use. The schools have nothing at present.
Depends, what theses boxes are supposed to do. More RAM and hard disk space is what I would recommend. Have at least 32MB, if you want to get some serious work done. 200MB is also very tight, if you want to use them as workstations.
Bye, LenZ
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At 03:47 PM 1/4/2000 -0500, Jim Bruer wrote:
Would it make sense to set up one machine as a Xwindows/thinclient (we have spare network cards) and upgrade the other machine as a server with new, motherboard, memory, processor and HD, and adding Cd-rom.
Then all you save is the cost of the case/powersupply. See if you can find a used parts wholsaler/recycler ,and see what it would cost to upgrade memory and hard drives , then see how much you could get used P100-133s , and then see how much for new motherboard and parts to go that way not to mention time and labor to do all of this. There is quite a diffrence between a pentuim and 486 , especialy if you add any ghaphics to it. For x you want at least 2 meg , 4 is better . On a P75 , with 16 meg ram , and 1 meg vidio ram , x is slow like molasis. You can do plian stuff with it iif you are willing to wait for it. These will be
workstations for students and staff. Doing office applications and some intro to programming kinds of things.
On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Jim Bruer wrote:
I have 6 486Dx2 boxes that are going to be sent to 3 high schools in Ethiopia from the US. 16megs of 72pin ram, 200Mbytes hard drives, no cd-roms. I do have a budget fo up to $150 per machine for upgrades. Seeking input from the group on what an ideal configuration, both hardware and software, might be for this use. The schools have nothing at present.
Depends, what theses boxes are supposed to do. More RAM and hard disk space is what I would recommend. Have at least 32MB, if you want to get some serious work done. 200MB is also very tight, if you want to use them as workstations.
Bye, LenZ
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I have 6 486Dx2 boxes that are going to be sent to 3 high schools in Ethiopia from the US. 16megs of 72pin ram, 200Mbytes hard drives, no cd-roms. I do have a budget fo up to $150 per machine for upgrades. Seeking input from
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group on what an ideal configuration, both hardware and software, might be for this use. The schools have nothing at present.
As far as software, you are asking on a Linux mailing list! What do you think we would recommened for choice of OS on these machines? : ) Go with SuSE, if remote admin on this machines has to be done, it can be. If they are in a remote area and have Internet access, you (or the admin) will be able to telnet/ssh2/openssh into the machines and fix %99 problems from anywhere in the world. On a 486/16 megs you are going to have some trouble running some of the more comman desktops. If you check out icewm and dfm they make a great easy to use desktop but don't eat the resources other desktops are known for (cough cough). Together DFM and icewm run extremely fast without allot of a memory foot print, and they are just as easy (IMHO) to use. Will they have internet access? If you network the machines together you could do some proxy/firewall/ip forwarding tricks so that all machines could share 1 Internet connection (which would cut cost to the ISP). You might want to check out BNC (T-Base-2) Ethernet for this small network. BNC ethernet is really cheap. You can pick up the cards for about $5 to free at swap meets, finding them down in freinds basements, etc. The cable is a fair price. That bad thing though, is if 1 machine goes off line, they all go down. They are connected in a circle or ring fashion. Allot of admin time seems to be in working with this BNC cabling. I am not saying networking is the answer, but another advantage of networking this computer together, would they can share each other disk space, etc. Since it looks like you have only 200 megs per machine, this could be a good thing. Again though, in a networked unix envoirment you the admin time will be higher than normal. For hardware parts, check out http://www.pricewatch.com Also swap meets, school sales are a great way to get extra parts to upgrade cheaper than normal. The local high school here where sell about 200 386 machines for 3 bucks a peice. I seen one for $3 and it had 8 megs of ram, 150 meg hard drive, bnc ethernet card, sound card, it was dirty, but $3 for the ethernet card alone is a fair price. 386 also make nice terminals for sending email (elm, pine, mutt) writing papers (pico, joe, vi, emac) or even play on the local mud/BBS : ) Good Luck, Jack
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For 75.00 you can get P75s with 16 meg ram , and at least 1/2 gig drives. You can even get new 486s for 75.00 , also with giger drives. I would trey to find biger drives , and memory , and then cdroms drives , even old 4/8 x ones will do.
Can you enlighten me as to where such boxes can be found on the net?
Sam
WhaT , ME GIVE AWAY MY BEST KEPT SECRET , NAA AA , OK Best bet is local computer shows, check out www.pcshow.com , and www.marketpro.com , even better than the net. www.intellesale.com www.compugeeks.com www.datapath.com www.compugate.comwww.mcglen.com Tip , keep a spare Eide cdrom as well as the cable , most of these rock bottem ps have no cdrom , take the spare , atach the cable , set the juper master/slave and plug into the secondary cahnel , or daisy chain it to the hard drive. This will make the install a lot eisier. Or keep an ethernet card handy , istall it , pass the parameters to the kernal on boot/install then do it over the network to a shered cdrom drive , lastly remove hard drive , install on a=another chassis , then put it back. At 03:03 PM 1/4/2000 -0500, Jim Bruer wrote:
I have 6 486Dx2 boxes that are going to be sent to 3 high schools in Ethiopia from the US. 16megs of 72pin ram, 200Mbytes hard drives, no cd-roms. I do have a budget fo up to $150 per machine for upgrades. Seeking input from the group on what an ideal configuration, both hardware and software, might be for this use. The schools have nothing at present.
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