[opensuse] Libreoffice 5.3 in Leap 42.3 menu font too small and toolbar icons invisible
Hello: This is an openSUSE Leap 42.3 system with KDE3.5 default desktop. KDE4 (Wolfi's framework) packages are also installed. The official Libreoffice (5.3.5.2) has almost unreadable tiny menu and user interface fonts. The toolbar icons are barely visible. Here is a screenshot. I included a Seamonkey window to show what menu font size I would like to have. http://i64.tinypic.com/5uebsp.jpg How can I fix these? Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Istvan Gabor composed on 2018-03-22 22:53 (UTC+0100):
This is an openSUSE Leap 42.3 system with KDE3.5 default desktop. KDE4 (Wolfi's framework) packages are also installed.
I don't recall ever installing Wolfi's stuff here. 42.3 & KDE3 I do use.
The official Libreoffice (5.3.5.2) has almost unreadable tiny menu and user interface fonts. The toolbar icons are barely visible.
LO view menu has ability to choose icon size.
Here is a screenshot. I included a Seamonkey window to show what menu font size I would like to have.
I don't remember how or when I dealt with this, but maybe comparing what I have and don't have installed to yours will help: # zypsei ffic i | kde3-koffice | package | 1.6.3-324.1 | x86_64 | (System Packages) i | kde3-koffice-database | package | 1.6.3-324.1 | x86_64 | (System Packages) i | libstaroffice-0_0-0 | package | 0.0.3-1.1 | x86_64 | OSS i+ | kde3-koffice-spreadsheet | package | 1.6.3-324.1 | x86_64 | (System Packages) i+ | libreoffice | package | 5.4.5.1-15.1 | x86_64 | Update i+ | libreoffice-branding-upstream | package | 5.4.5.1-15.1 | noarch | Update i+ | libreoffice-calc | package | 5.4.5.1-15.1 | x86_64 | Update i+ | libreoffice-gnome | package | 5.4.5.1-15.1 | x86_64 | Update i+ | libreoffice-icon-theme-galaxy | package | 5.4.5.1-15.1 | noarch | Update i+ | libreoffice-icon-theme-hicontrast | package | 5.4.5.1-15.1 | noarch | Update i+ | libreoffice-l10n-en | package | 5.4.5.1-15.1 | noarch | Update i+ | libreoffice-share-linker | package | 1-5.1 | noarch | OSS i+ | libreoffice-writer | package | 5.4.5.1-15.1 | x86_64 | Update # zypsei gtk i | PackageKit-gtk3-module | package | 1.1.3-4.4 | x86_64 | OSS i | at-spi2-atk-gtk2 | package | 2.20.1-4.4 | x86_64 | OSS i | gtk2-branding-openSUSE | package | 13.1-3.1 | noarch | OSS i | gtk2-data | package | 2.24.31-14.24 | noarch | OSS i | gtk2-engine-oxygen | package | 1.4.6-8.3 | x86_64 | OSS i | gtk2-metatheme-adwaita | package | 3.20.2-3.3 | noarch | OSS i | gtk2-theming-engine-adwaita | package | 3.20.2-3.3 | x86_64 | OSS i | gtk2-tools | package | 2.24.31-14.24 | x86_64 | OSS i | gtk3-branding-openSUSE | package | 42.1-6.1 | noarch | OSS i | gtk3-metatheme-adwaita | package | 3.20.2-3.3 | noarch | OSS i | libcanberra-gtk-module-common | package | 0.30-14.3 | x86_64 | OSS i | libcanberra-gtk0 | package | 0.30-14.3 | x86_64 | OSS i | libcanberra-gtk2-module | package | 0.30-14.3 | x86_64 | OSS i | libcanberra-gtk3-0 | package | 0.30-14.3 | x86_64 | OSS i | libcanberra-gtk3-module | package | 0.30-14.3 | x86_64 | OSS i | libgtk-2_0-0 | package | 2.24.31-14.24 | x86_64 | OSS i | libgtkmm-2_4-1 | package | 2.24.4-8.4 | x86_64 | OSS i | libgtkmm-3_0-1 | package | 3.20.1-3.3 | x86_64 | OSS i | libgtksourceview-2_0-0 | package | 2.10.5-18.1 | x86_64 | OSS i | libwebkitgtk-1_0-0 | package | 2.4.11-4.26 | x86_64 | OSS i | libwebkitgtk-3_0-0 | package | 2.4.11-4.26 | x86_64 | OSS i | perl-Gtk2 | package | 1.24992-1.13 | x86_64 | OSS i | perl-Gtk2-Ex-FormFactory | package | 0.67-1.3 | noarch | Packman i+ | gtk2-theme-oxygen | package | 1.4.6-8.3 | x86_64 | OSS i+ | gtk3-data | package | 3.20.10-9.1 | noarch | Update i+ | gtk3-tools | package | 3.20.10-9.1 | x86_64 | Update i+ | kde3-gtk-qt-engine | package | 0.8svn20071009-52.1 | x86_64 | KDE3 i+ | libgtk-3-0 | package | 3.20.10-9.1 | x86_64 | Update i+ | typelib-1_0-Gtk-3_0 | package | 3.20.10-9.1 | x86_64 | Update -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 22:53:23 +0100
Istvan Gabor
Hello:
This is an openSUSE Leap 42.3 system with KDE3.5 default desktop. KDE4 (Wolfi's framework) packages are also installed.
The official Libreoffice (5.3.5.2) has almost unreadable tiny menu and user interface fonts. The toolbar icons are barely visible.
Here is a screenshot. I included a Seamonkey window to show what menu font size I would like to have.
http://i64.tinypic.com/5uebsp.jpg
How can I fix these?
Dunno, but I just tried the same thing and saw a similar reduced size fonts with LO (the 5.4.5.1 that is standard on 42.3 - you have an out of date system!) so I'd also be interested in knowing how to fix it. The difference is that I use LXDE rather than KDE, so folks shouldn't bother suggesting the DE as the cause. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2018-03-22 a las 22:48 -0000, Dave Howorth escribió:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 22:53:23 +0100 Istvan Gabor <> wrote:
Hello:
This is an openSUSE Leap 42.3 system with KDE3.5 default desktop. KDE4 (Wolfi's framework) packages are also installed.
The official Libreoffice (5.3.5.2) has almost unreadable tiny menu and user interface fonts. The toolbar icons are barely visible.
Here is a screenshot. I included a Seamonkey window to show what menu font size I would like to have.
http://i64.tinypic.com/5uebsp.jpg
How can I fix these?
Dunno, but I just tried the same thing and saw a similar reduced size fonts with LO (the 5.4.5.1 that is standard on 42.3 - you have an out of date system!) so I'd also be interested in knowing how to fix it.
The difference is that I use LXDE rather than KDE, so folks shouldn't bother suggesting the DE as the cause.
I just started 5.4.5.1 and compared with the photo, and my fonts are certainly bigger. Not much, because in the laptop I sacrifice, and prefer smaller sizes because the display is small. I'm using XFCE here. I have, in Tools/Options dialog; LibreOffice/Fonts: Size 10 (bottom part of the dialog). I don't think it applies. In /View you can choose some sizes of the interface. I have toolbar icon size at "small", the rest on automatic. In LibreOffice Writer / Basic Fonts (Western) I have Liberation Fonts at 12/14/12/12/12, which seems to be the default settings. I think this is the setting that applies. If you want, I can send photos. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAlq0OncACgkQja8UbcUWM1xffwEAoDMo0sXGB0/tIA3kfsLVsFVT n/wYtDzE8IdWn0cLm7QA/RWOnKRKdq5hv1jeRwjHHpYXHH1WbkpgIYXlz9sUTQao =L5II -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Istvan Gabor composed on 2018-03-22 22:53 (UTC+0100):
This is an openSUSE Leap 42.3 system with KDE3.5 default desktop. KDE4 (Wolfi's framework) packages are also installed.
The official Libreoffice (5.3.5.2) has almost unreadable tiny menu and user interface fonts. The toolbar icons are barely visible.
Here is a screenshot. I included a Seamonkey window to show what menu font size I would like to have.
How can I fix these?
IIRC, this is a problem solved by upgrading to LO 5.4.x https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-02/msg01444.html seems to be where I found a workaround for 5.3.x. Do you get the same result from both of these? # xrdb -query | grep dpi # xdpyinfo | grep lutio -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth composed on 2018-03-22 22:48 (UTC):
Dunno, but I just tried the same thing and saw a similar reduced size fonts with LO (the 5.4.5.1 that is standard on 42.3 - you have an out of date system!) so I'd also be interested in knowing how to fix it.
The difference is that I use LXDE rather than KDE, so folks shouldn't bother suggesting the DE as the cause.
Actually I think it's possible the DE can be indirectly responsible. Do you get the same numerical result from both of these, at least one of which is not 96? # xrdb -query | grep dpi # xdpyinfo | grep lutio Depending on settings, http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-window.html might also be useful. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 21:34:35 -0400
Felix Miata
Dave Howorth composed on 2018-03-22 22:48 (UTC):
Dunno, but I just tried the same thing and saw a similar reduced size fonts with LO (the 5.4.5.1 that is standard on 42.3 - you have an out of date system!) so I'd also be interested in knowing how to fix it.
The difference is that I use LXDE rather than KDE, so folks shouldn't bother suggesting the DE as the cause.
Actually I think it's possible the DE can be indirectly responsible. Do you get the same numerical result from both of these, at least one of which is not 96?
# xrdb -query | grep dpi
That returns nothing (i.e. an empty result)
# xdpyinfo | grep lutio
That returns xdpyinfo: command not found and after installation returns resolution: 96x96 dots per inch
Depending on settings, http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-window.html might also be useful.
Dunno. I can't figure out what it's supposed to be showing. If I set FF to 80% then one inch is correct. (Incidentally, it's annoying that recent FF changes the scale of every page on display instead of just the one that has focus. Is there any way to change that?) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
This is an openSUSE Leap 42.3 system with KDE3.5 default desktop. KDE4 (Wolfi's framework) packages are also installed.
The official Libreoffice (5.3.5.2) has almost unreadable tiny menu and user interface fonts. The toolbar icons are barely visible.
Normally that points at wrong dpi settings. This can happen if Xorg cannot get the monitor size. It then uses the default (96x96) which is quite bad on a HiDPI display... You can either try to use System Settings->Fonts to force the dpi to a reasonable value, or tweak the xorg.conf monitor section to use the right numbers... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
2018-03-22 22:53 keltezéssel, Istvan Gabor írta:
Hello:
This is an openSUSE Leap 42.3 system with KDE3.5 default desktop. KDE4 (Wolfi's framework) packages are also installed.
The official Libreoffice (5.3.5.2) has almost unreadable tiny menu and user interface fonts. The toolbar icons are barely visible.
Here is a screenshot. I included a Seamonkey window to show what menu font size I would like to have.
http://i64.tinypic.com/5uebsp.jpg
How can I fix these?
Thanks,
Istvan
Hi, I met the same problem, with tumbleweed and 5.x KDE. Firefox, other Mozozillas and some (4-5 more) apps show this micro font symptom. And though this not much help, the solution was not trivial at all. Somewhere there is a setting about GTK fonts or something like that (yes! GTK though you are in KDE) and there you should increase the font size. Good luck Albert
* Oszkó Albert
2018-03-22 22:53 keltezéssel, Istvan Gabor írta:
Hello:
This is an openSUSE Leap 42.3 system with KDE3.5 default desktop. KDE4 (Wolfi's framework) packages are also installed.
The official Libreoffice (5.3.5.2) has almost unreadable tiny menu and user interface fonts. The toolbar icons are barely visible.
Here is a screenshot. I included a Seamonkey window to show what menu font size I would like to have.
http://i64.tinypic.com/5uebsp.jpg
How can I fix these?
Thanks,
Istvan
Hi, I met the same problem, with tumbleweed and 5.x KDE. Firefox, other Mozozillas and some (4-5 more) apps show this micro font symptom. And though this not much help, the solution was not trivial at all. Somewhere there is a setting about GTK fonts or something like that (yes! GTK though you are in KDE) and there you should increase the font size.
Good luck
Albert
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on Tw, but should be similar: systemsettings5 --> application style --> gnome application style (gtk) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Thank you all for your valuable suggestions. I found that openSUSE repo has specific LO packages for gnome and kde, like: libreoffice-gtk3 - Gtk3 interface for LibreOffice libreoffice-gnome - GNOME extensions and GTK2 interface for LibreOffice libreoffice-kde4 - KDE4 Extensions for LibreOffice I installed all 3. This resulted that gtk3 setting came into effect. Bigger font size but not really nice. Then I removed libreoffice-gtk3 and gtk2 settings came into effect. This is what I wanted. I can set the font size via .gtkrc-2.0 file. libreoffice-kde4 has no effect, which is OK - I use KDE3. The toolbar icons problem I solved by changing the icon style to Galaxy in LO's Tools/Options/LibreOffice/View dialog. Here is a screenshot how it looks now: http://i64.tinypic.com/2u3zgg0.jpg Thanks again for your input. Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth composed on 2018-03-23 09:30 (UTC):
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 21:34:35 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:
Dave Howorth composed on 2018-03-22 22:48 (UTC):
Dunno, but I just tried the same thing and saw a similar reduced size fonts with LO (the 5.4.5.1 that is standard on 42.3 - you have an out of date system!) so I'd also be interested in knowing how to fix it.
The difference is that I use LXDE rather than KDE, so folks shouldn't bother suggesting the DE as the cause.
Actually I think it's possible the DE can be indirectly responsible. Do you get the same numerical result from both of these, at least one of which is not 96?
# xrdb -query | grep dpi
That returns nothing (i.e. an empty result)
In Gnome, Mate and various others, it won't be null. When it exists, it's a result of Xft.dpi. Some desktops use Xft.dpi as a zooming knob. In some others, it's the mechanism desktop settings use to force DPI, e.g. TDE & KDE. When it is not null and not a result of a desktop setting, it can be a problem: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1022830
# xdpyinfo | grep lutio
That returns xdpyinfo: command not found and after installation returns resolution: 96x96 dots per inch
Depending on settings, http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-window.html might also be useful.
Dunno. I can't figure out what it's supposed to be showing.
Depends on which browser you're using. Post-RV55, FF is just as bad as non-Mozilla browsers. With ESR52, it is still capable of reporting actual logical DPI. In case the physical DPI and logical DPI match, then 1" will actually measure 1". That they match is actually rare. I've updated that URL to make it clearer it's usefulness has become seriously limited.
If I set FF to 80% then one inch is correct.
Exactly where are you seeing "80%" displayed? Which FF version, and with which extensions?
(Incidentally, it's annoying that recent FF changes the scale of every page on display instead of just the one that has focus. Is there any way to change that?)
If by scale you mean zoom level, the default setting is to have one zoom level across each individual domain, making "every page" have more than one interpretation: browser.zoom.siteSpecific true. Maybe you want to try false. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Peter Suetterlin composed on 2018-03-23 11:33 (UTC+0100):
Istvan Gabor wrote:
This is an openSUSE Leap 42.3 system with KDE3.5 default desktop. KDE4 (Wolfi's framework) packages are also installed.
The official Libreoffice (5.3.5.2) has almost unreadable tiny menu and user interface fonts. The toolbar icons are barely visible.
Normally that points at wrong dpi settings.
Normally DPI is wrong arbitrarily forced to 96 unless physical DPI is somehow determined to be quite high, in some cases as little as 144, but more often 160 or more. Most environments don't allow less than 96 to be assumed even if actual DPI is very much less.
This can happen if Xorg cannot get the monitor size. It then uses the default (96x96) which is quite bad on a HiDPI display...
While it is correct that 96 is horrible on HiDPI, Xorg only fetches display size. It doesn't use what it gets for anything since about a decade ago. Absent an affirmative directive to not be 96, such as is possible in xorg.conf* using DisplaySize or the proprietary forcing mode with the proprietary NVidia driver, with xrandr, or via Xft.dpi, Xorg assigns whatever arbitrary size is required to result in 96 logical DPI. This morphing is visible in most Xorg.#.log files.
You can either try to use System Settings->Fonts to force the dpi to a reasonable value, or tweak the xorg.conf monitor section to use the right numbers...
Systemsettings -> Fonts sets Xft.dpi to produce the effect. It can also be set in Xresources, locally or globally. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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