Hello - I seem to have gotten myself in a mess with SuSE 11.1 and need a bit of guidance. After I got some updates, my system crashed and failed to start up after that, with lots of complaints about problems with the iptables. I was unable to capture any of the specific details and had no idea on how to fix it, so decided to try in reinstall SuSE11.1 from my installation CD. To be on the safe side, and not corrupt any of my data in my home directory, or on my mounted partitions, I decided to do an update instead of a full reinstall. That much as restored my system to a working state BUT with some issues that I don't know how to resolve. First issue, which is disconcerting and probably will require a LOT of effort for me to try and recover is that ALL of the repositories I had set up seem to have disappeared. When the SuSE installation software was setting things up, did it bother to make a backup of the repositories I had already set up? If so, how can I restore them? Second, and more serious issue. The display has come up in a low resolution mode and I am installing this using a 1080x1200 monitor. This means that all of the Windows are oversize and the fonts are very large. What this does is that it makes it impossible for me to use Yast or Sax to reconfigure my display. All of the necessary buttons to Accept settings are off screen and these tools do not supply a scroll bar in order for me to bring these buttons on screen. I cannot resize the windows either as they are limited by the desktop size, so even at maximum size the buttons are still off screen. It is sad that these tools apparently have not been well tested/designed! Good engineering and use case studies ought to have caught such a user trap. That said, how do I set up my display if I am unable to use the tools that were designed for that task? Do I have to go and figure out how to access low level settings and become a guru on how YaST and Sax actually work? Not a very user friendly solution but I guess if I must, I will if someone will provide me with some good pointers... Marc.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 06/09/09 16:10, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
What this does is that it makes it impossible for me to use Yast or Sax to reconfigure my display.
run sax.sh -a in a terminal. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday September 6 2009 5:16:14 pm Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 06/09/09 16:10, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
What this does is that it makes it impossible for me to use Yast or Sax to reconfigure my display.
run sax.sh -a in a terminal.
As root, of course. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 06/09/09 16:10, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
What this does is that it makes it impossible for me to use Yast or Sax to reconfigure my display.
run sax.sh -a in a terminal.
Well that exposed yet another problem! When I bring up a terminal and try to type in it, all of the letters are being displayed as if they are being typed on top of each other. In other words there is no advancement of the curser taking place when typing in one character to the next! So I decided to just "blind" type in the commands to su to root, password and then sax.sh -a... That printed out a message saying Sax was already configured and that I should run sax2 -r So again I blind typed that in and it appears as if the display is halted, I get a brief glimpse of what looks like the boot up output and then the display simply goes blank and nothing further happens... Marc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 06/09/09 16:10, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
What this does is that it makes it impossible for me to use Yast or Sax to reconfigure my display.
run sax.sh -a in a terminal.
Well that exposed yet another problem! When I bring up a terminal and try to type in it, all of the letters are being displayed as if they are being typed on top of each other. In other words there is no advancement of the curser taking place when typing in one character to the next! So I decided to just "blind" type in the commands to su to root, password and then sax.sh -a... That printed out a message saying Sax was already configured and that I should run sax2 -r So again I blind typed that in and it appears as if the display is halted, I get a brief glimpse of what looks like the boot up output and then the display simply goes blank and nothing further happens...
Marc.
May I suggest that you re-install oS from scratch, and unless you are running GNOME or have some dislike of KDE4.3 may I suggest that you download the Live CD created by Stephan Binner which has 11.1 but with the 4.3 Desktop. The URL is http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/ Now, you may also have the need to retain some of your existing files - eg, your mail files - then get hold of SYSTEM RESCUE DISC and use midnight commander (mc) to make backups of the files then re-install 11.1. BC -- "There are none so blind as those who will not see." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin skrev:
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 06/09/09 16:10, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
What this does is that it makes it impossible for me to use Yast or Sax to reconfigure my display.
run sax.sh -a in a terminal.
Well that exposed yet another problem! When I bring up a terminal and try to type in it, all of the letters are being displayed as if they are being typed on top of each other. In other words there is no advancement of the curser taking place when typing in one character to the next! So I decided to just "blind" type in the commands to su to root, password and then sax.sh -a... That printed out a message saying Sax was already configured and that I should run sax2 -r So again I blind typed that in and it appears as if the display is halted, I get a brief glimpse of what looks like the boot up output and then the display simply goes blank and nothing further happens...
Marc.
May I suggest that you re-install oS from scratch, and unless you are running GNOME or have some dislike of KDE4.3 may I suggest that you download the Live CD created by Stephan Binner which has 11.1 but with the 4.3 Desktop. The URL is http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
Now, you may also have the need to retain some of your existing files - eg, your mail files - then get hold of SYSTEM RESCUE DISC and use midnight commander (mc) to make backups of the files then re-install 11.1.
BC
When you invoke 'sax', you do that in a terminal, you write. I suppose that's from within your corrupted GUI. May I suggest that you forget the terminal and go to a complete new shell, type CTRL+ALT+F1 This should bring you to a new - non GUI - shell. Log in as root and fix your X setup with sax as per directions. -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Open Source Academy +45 56964223 Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 Linux Counter no 114954 ------------------------------ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Basil Chupin skrev:
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 06/09/09 16:10, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
What this does is that it makes it impossible for me to use Yast or Sax to reconfigure my display.
run sax.sh -a in a terminal.
Well that exposed yet another problem! When I bring up a terminal and try to type in it, all of the letters are being displayed as if they are being typed on top of each other. In other words there is no advancement of the curser taking place when typing in one character to the next! So I decided to just "blind" type in the commands to su to root, password and then sax.sh -a... That printed out a message saying Sax was already configured and that I should run sax2 -r So again I blind typed that in and it appears as if the display is halted, I get a brief glimpse of what looks like the boot up output and then the display simply goes blank and nothing further happens...
Marc.
May I suggest that you re-install oS from scratch, and unless you are running GNOME or have some dislike of KDE4.3 may I suggest that you download the Live CD created by Stephan Binner which has 11.1 but with the 4.3 Desktop. The URL is http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
Now, you may also have the need to retain some of your existing files - eg, your mail files - then get hold of SYSTEM RESCUE DISC and use midnight commander (mc) to make backups of the files then re-install 11.1.
BC
When you invoke 'sax', you do that in a terminal, you write. I suppose that's from within your corrupted GUI.
May I suggest that you forget the terminal and go to a complete new shell, type CTRL+ALT+F1
This should bring you to a new - non GUI - shell. Log in as root and fix your X setup with sax as per directions.
I suspect that you intended to reply to either Marc or Christian and not me :-) . BC -- "There are none so blind as those who will not see." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Basil Chupin skrev:
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 06/09/09 16:10, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
What this does is that it makes it impossible for me to use Yast or Sax to reconfigure my display.
run sax.sh -a in a terminal.
Well that exposed yet another problem! When I bring up a terminal and try to type in it, all of the letters are being displayed as if they are being typed on top of each other. In other words there is no advancement of the curser taking place when typing in one character to the next! So I decided to just "blind" type in the commands to su to root, password and then sax.sh -a... That printed out a message saying Sax was already configured and that I should run sax2 -r So again I blind typed that in and it appears as if the display is halted, I get a brief glimpse of what looks like the boot up output and then the display simply goes blank and nothing further happens...
Marc.
May I suggest that you re-install oS from scratch, and unless you are running GNOME or have some dislike of KDE4.3 may I suggest that you download the Live CD created by Stephan Binner which has 11.1 but with the 4.3 Desktop. The URL is http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
Now, you may also have the need to retain some of your existing files - eg, your mail files - then get hold of SYSTEM RESCUE DISC and use midnight commander (mc) to make backups of the files then re-install 11.1.
BC
When you invoke 'sax', you do that in a terminal, you write. I suppose that's from within your corrupted GUI.
May I suggest that you forget the terminal and go to a complete new shell, type CTRL+ALT+F1
This should bring you to a new - non GUI - shell. Log in as root and fix your X setup with sax as per directions.
Thanks Verner, that seems to have done the trick. I had forgotten about using a non GUI shell. The automatic setup switch in Sax got me most of the way and then I was able to correctly set the resolution for my terminal. So for the moment my SuSE system seems to be back up an running, but leaves me with an uneasy feeling... The repositories I had set up, for fetching software and updates not in the main SuSE distro, are messed up still and I will have to reconfigure all of that manually, it appears. It also appears my MythTV got toasted as well so am in the process of restoring that as well... But at least I got a GUI now that I can work with... I think it would be a good idea to rework Yast and Sax a bit so as to have scroll bars in case some other poor user gets into the same mess I did... If those tools come up in a display mode that makes it impossible for them to fit entirely on the screen, it is near impossible to use them. Or a better idea would be to give the desktop itself the ability to have a scroll bar, perhaps optionally... Marc.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Well that exposed yet another problem! When I bring up a terminal and try to type in it, all of the letters are being displayed as if they are being typed on top of each other. In other words there is no advancement of the curser taking place when typing in one character to the next! So I decided to just "blind" type in the commands to su to root, password and then sax.sh -a... That printed out a message saying Sax was already configured and that I should run sax2 -r So again I blind typed that in and it appears as if the display is halted, I get a brief glimpse of what looks like the boot up output and then the display simply goes blank and nothing further happens...
Marc.
First CTRL+ALT+F1 to pull up the console. Login as root, then enter init 3. Afterwards, enter sax2 -r. That usually detects the right resolution and applies the correct settings for you. Save, then use init 5 to get your gui back. Nkoli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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