[opensuse] suse versus Munich, bad news if confirmed
this is old: https://www.zdnet.com/article/linuxs-munich-crisis-crunch-vote-locks-city-on... but seems to be confirmed, but I do not find the english version: https://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/de-linux-a-windows-une-partie-de-l-allemagne... any hint? thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd@dodin.org wrote:
this is old:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/linuxs-munich-crisis-crunch-vote-locks-city-on...
but seems to be confirmed, but I do not find the english version:
https://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/de-linux-a-windows-une-partie-de-l-allemagne...
any hint?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux Ende November 2017 wurde vom Stadtrat beschlossen, das Projekt zu beenden und alle Rechner bis zum Jahr 2020 auf Windows umzustellen. My translation - End of Novemebver 2017, the Munich City Council decided to end the project, and revert all computers to Windows by 2020. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (21.9°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
jdd@dodin.org composed on 2018-08-02 09:40 (UTC+0200):
this is old:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/linuxs-munich-crisis-crunch-vote-locks-city-on...
but seems to be confirmed, but I do not find the english version:
https://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/de-linux-a-windows-une-partie-de-l-allemagne...
any hint?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux Wouldn't be surprised if what killed it was replacement of KDE3 with KDE 4.4 in 10.04 Lucid Lynx. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Just for the ones interested in this topic, the city of Dortmund has announced to evaluate a possible migration of their systems into the open source world (didn't find an English version): https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Stadt-Dortmund-stellt-Weichen-Richtu... Zitat von Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>:
jdd@dodin.org composed on 2018-08-02 09:40 (UTC+0200):
this is old:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/linuxs-munich-crisis-crunch-vote-locks-city-on...
but seems to be confirmed, but I do not find the english version:
https://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/de-linux-a-windows-une-partie-de-l-allemagne...
any hint?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux
Wouldn't be surprised if what killed it was replacement of KDE3 with KDE 4.4 in 10.04 Lucid Lynx. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation)
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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On 02/08/18 10:44, Felix Miata wrote:
jdd@dodin.org composed on 2018-08-02 09:40 (UTC+0200):
this is old:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/linuxs-munich-crisis-crunch-vote-locks-city-on...
but seems to be confirmed, but I do not find the english version:
https://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/de-linux-a-windows-une-partie-de-l-allemagne...
any hint?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux
Wouldn't be surprised if what killed it was replacement of KDE3 with KDE 4.4 in 10.04 Lucid Lynx.
I think what killed the Munich project was having to maintain an entire stack with their own bespoke LiMux distro, the fact that the KDE version was so far behind even when the project was launched, and having to do a lot of their own modifications to the office suite and other tools. I don't know so much about the Lower Saxony implementation, aside from it apparently being based on openSUSE. Would they not have had a certain number of SUSE licenses in order to get support and bugfixes pushed through? gumb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2 August 2018 at 12:39, gumb <gumb@linuxmail.org> wrote:
On 02/08/18 10:44, Felix Miata wrote:
jdd@dodin.org composed on 2018-08-02 09:40 (UTC+0200):
this is old:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/linuxs-munich-crisis-crunch-vote-locks-city-on...
but seems to be confirmed, but I do not find the english version:
https://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/de-linux-a-windows-une-partie-de-l-allemagne...
any hint?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux
Wouldn't be surprised if what killed it was replacement of KDE3 with KDE 4.4 in 10.04 Lucid Lynx.
I think what killed the Munich project was having to maintain an entire stack with their own bespoke LiMux distro, the fact that the KDE version was so far behind even when the project was launched, and having to do a lot of their own modifications to the office suite and other tools. I don't know so much about the Lower Saxony implementation, aside from it apparently being based on openSUSE. Would they not have had a certain number of SUSE licenses in order to get support and bugfixes pushed through?
The Lower Saxony implementation is currently using openSUSE Leap - I believe the engineers involved are quite happy with the solution (we certainly haven't heard negative feedback from them, and we have been in touch with them repeatedly in the past) Regarding LiMux - there is always going to be lots of external commentary for a situation like that. I won't comment on my opinion on whether LiMux was a good idea or not, but I will say that I love the fact that working at SUSE I have a number of new colleagues from Munich who have a fricking awesome amount of great experience ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/02/2018 06:07 AM, Richard Brown wrote:
I won't comment on my opinion on whether LiMux was a good idea or not, but I will say that I love the fact that working at SUSE I have a number of new colleagues from Munich who have a fricking awesome amount of great experience ;)
Every cloud has its silver lining.... and I bet they are damn good. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/08/18 20:09, gumb wrote:
On 02/08/18 10:44, Felix Miata wrote:
jdd@dodin.org composed on 2018-08-02 09:40 (UTC+0200):
this is old:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/linuxs-munich-crisis-crunch-vote-locks-city-on...
but seems to be confirmed, but I do not find the english version:
https://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/de-linux-a-windows-une-partie-de-l-allemagne...
any hint?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux
Wouldn't be surprised if what killed it was replacement of KDE3 with KDE 4.4 in 10.04 Lucid Lynx.
I think what killed the Munich project was having to maintain an entire stack with their own bespoke LiMux distro, the fact that the KDE version was so far behind even when the project was launched, and having to do a lot of their own modifications to the office suite and other tools. I don't know so much about the Lower Saxony implementation, aside from it apparently being based on openSUSE. Would they not have had a certain number of SUSE licenses in order to get support and bugfixes pushed through?
To get support, yes, to get a guarantee that the bugs they reported are fixed yes. But to receive general bugfixes / security fixes during Leap's lifetime no. There is also still a fair chance that if they raise a major bug a member of openSUSE's community will likely fix it. But while Leap is supported all SLE bugfixes will go into Leap. So what we are talking about is different levels of "support" rather then all vs none. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
In data giovedì 2 agosto 2018 10:44:21 CEST, Felix Miata ha scritto:
Wouldn't be surprised if what killed it was replacement of KDE3 with KDE 4.4 in 10.04 Lucid Lynx. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-to-windows-10-why-did-munich-swit...
Here you have an article on it. Greets. _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________ Ihre E-Mail-Postfächer sicher & zentral an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und alte E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! https://www.eclipso.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 02/08/2018 à 15:38, stakanov a écrit :
In data giovedì 2 agosto 2018 10:44:21 CEST, Felix Miata ha scritto:
Wouldn't be surprised if what killed it was replacement of KDE3 with KDE 4.4 in 10.04 Lucid Lynx. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-to-windows-10-why-did-munich-swit...
Here you have an article on it. Greets.
interesting, thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/02/2018 03:44 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if what killed it was replacement of KDE3 with KDE 4.4 in 10.04 Lucid Lynx.
No shit.... (short and simple) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi,
this is old:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/linuxs-munich-crisis-crunch-vote-locks-city-on... course-for-windows-return/
but seems to be confirmed, but I do not find the english version:
https://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/de-linux-a-windows-une-partie-de-l-allemagne... bascule-39871733.htm
any hint?
the city of Munich succeeded in getting the new Microsoft head quarter, that former was in Unterschleissheim: "by Sean Chan Sep 20, 2016 at 18:54 GMT Microsoft Germany today announced that its moving into a new headquarters. The companys new headquarters in Germany is now situated at Schwabing, which is a district of Munich. According to the official release, Microsoft Germany has 2700 workers. And in case you are wondering, the companys old HQ was at Unterschleissheim" Does anyone besides me see a connection to the decision to switch from Open Source to the Microsoft platform?
thanks jdd
Bye. Michael. -- Michael Hirmke -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
In data giovedì 2 agosto 2018 22:58:00 CEST, Michael Hirmke ha scritto:
Hi,
this is old:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/linuxs-munich-crisis-crunch-vote-locks-city-o n- course-for-windows-return/
but seems to be confirmed, but I do not find the english version:
https://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/de-linux-a-windows-une-partie-de-l-allemagn e- bascule-39871733.htm
any hint?
the city of Munich succeeded in getting the new Microsoft head quarter, that former was in Unterschleissheim:
"by Sean Chan Sep 20, 2016 at 18:54 GMT
Microsoft Germany today announced that its moving into a new headquarters. The companys new headquarters in Germany is now situated at Schwabing, which is a district of Munich. According to the official release, Microsoft Germany has 2700 workers. And in case you are wondering, the companys old HQ was at Unterschleissheim"
Does anyone besides me see a connection to the decision to switch from Open Source to the Microsoft platform?
thanks jdd
Bye. Michael. sure it is a kickback. But officially they have to sell it otherwise. Same for decisions lately taken by the CDU in NRW. He who pays the piper calls the tune.
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Op donderdag 2 augustus 2018 22:58:00 CEST schreef Michael Hirmke:
Hi,
this is old:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/linuxs-munich-crisis-crunch-vote-locks-city-o n- course-for-windows-return/
but seems to be confirmed, but I do not find the english version:
https://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/de-linux-a-windows-une-partie-de-l-allemagn e- bascule-39871733.htm
any hint?
the city of Munich succeeded in getting the new Microsoft head quarter, that former was in Unterschleissheim:
"by Sean Chan Sep 20, 2016 at 18:54 GMT
Microsoft Germany today announced that its moving into a new headquarters. The companys new headquarters in Germany is now situated at Schwabing, which is a district of Munich. According to the official release, Microsoft Germany has 2700 workers. And in case you are wondering, the companys old HQ was at Unterschleissheim"
Does anyone besides me see a connection to the decision to switch from Open Source to the Microsoft platform?
thanks jdd
Bye. Michael. You're not alone, And the mayor and MS's chiefs seem to be good friends
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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