Re: [SLE] Replacement Motherboard Recommendation?
This one sound OK? ASUS "A7N8X" nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL (New Version, now support AMD Barton 400MHz) Supported CPU: Socket A AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron Processors Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz RAM: 3x DIMM for Dual Channel un-buffered non-ECC DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB IDE: 2x UltraDMA 133 up to 4 Devices Slots: 1x AGP PRO/8X, 5x PCI Ports: 2xPS2,1xCOM,1xLPT,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio Ports Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6CH w/ built in HP amplifier Onboard LAN: Realtek 8201BL 10/100Mbps Form Factor: ATX
Have had very good luck with AMD Athlon-XP CPUs and Asus N8V7?? (bad memory) with Nvidia chips (sound and ethernet which are kernel supported) and a Asus FX5200 AGP card (requires a FREE Nvidia driver), 512 DDR memory.
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On Sunday 27 March 2005 06:48 pm, David Colburn wrote:
This one sound OK?
ASUS "A7N8X" nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL (New Version, now support AMD Barton 400MHz)
Supported CPU: Socket A AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron Processors Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz RAM: 3x DIMM for Dual Channel un-buffered non-ECC DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB IDE: 2x UltraDMA 133 up to 4 Devices Slots: 1x AGP PRO/8X, 5x PCI Ports: 2xPS2,1xCOM,1xLPT,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio Ports Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6CH w/ built in HP amplifier Onboard LAN: Realtek 8201BL 10/100Mbps Form Factor: ATX ========
David, Many of us have been left with a bad taste in our mouths on ASUS hardware, due to their attitude towards Linux. If you want the nForce2 chipset, go with a better board maker, like Gigabyte, ABit, MSI, PCChips or ECS for your new setup. The nForce2 is a good fast chipset, just be prepared for a few of the nVidia niggles you might run into due to their proprietary drivers. Overall though, I think you will find the chipset well supported now without nVidia's drivers. Drop a nice under 200Gb SATA drive in there and I think you'll be mildly surprised. regards, Lee -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "He's not my brother, he's just heavy." ........Bucky Katt
On Sunday 27 March 2005 05:48 pm, David Colburn wrote:
This one sound OK?
ASUS "A7N8X" nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL (New Version, now support AMD Barton 400MHz)
Supported CPU: Socket A AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron Processors Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz RAM: 3x DIMM for Dual Channel un-buffered non-ECC DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB IDE: 2x UltraDMA 133 up to 4 Devices Slots: 1x AGP PRO/8X, 5x PCI Ports: 2xPS2,1xCOM,1xLPT,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio Ports Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6CH w/ built in HP amplifier Onboard LAN: Realtek 8201BL 10/100Mbps Form Factor: ATX David:
I have a horror story for you re ASUS. I wouldnt buy one for free! My brother got one which had a flaw on the board. If you started it without a floppy connected it fried the board and would not boot anymore. Board went back to asus and they sent another, same problem. died! It went back and got a new one, same problem! ASUS response to that problem was tough shit, send it back and we replace it with same board, too bad! Know anyone who wants a bad or soon to be bad ASUS mobo? I wouldnt buy ASUS cause they wont stand behind their stuff. Any reputable mfr would recognize the problem and refund money or replace with another board. Guess they arent interested in repeat customers. BTW, it had nothing to do with the OS. Richard -- Old age ain't for Sissies!
On Sunday 27 March 2005 22:52, Richard wrote:
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David:
I have a horror story for you re ASUS. I wouldnt buy one for free!
How about this scenario (it happened to me): Local Fry's store sells MoBo + Pentium-4 3 GHz HT chip for less than it sells that CPU alone. The board is an el-cheapo and it's still in its box with the seals intact. I checked out the manufacturer's Web site. There's already a revision of that model (to correct design flaws). No doubt the ones Fry's unloaded were the pre-fix version. They (Fry's) compensate for that silliness by having special prices on DRAM but then limiting you to one per customer! The sales staff then compensates for that by writing out two bills of sale with variant customer information.
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Richard
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On Monday 28 March 2005 12:52 am, Richard wrote:
I have a horror story for you re ASUS. I wouldnt buy one for free! My brother got one which had a flaw on the board. If you started it without a floppy connected it fried the board and would not boot anymore. Board went back to asus and they sent another, same problem. died! It went back and got a new one, same problem! ASUS response to that problem was tough shit, send it back and we replace it with same board, too bad!
Know anyone who wants a bad or soon to be bad ASUS mobo? I wouldnt buy ASUS cause they wont stand behind their stuff. Any reputable mfr would recognize the problem and refund money or replace with another board. Guess they arent interested in repeat customers.
Has he considered hooking a floppy drive up, or is dealing with Asus *so* fun that he likes blowing up every board they send him back? :) On a related note, I've used Asus boards in every machine I've built (at home and at my employer) in the last 5 years. I've had 0 motherboard problems, except for the one where I popped a couple of surface-mount caps off when a screwdriver slipped. Asus sent me a new one. I've contacted MB tech support 0 times in my life, because the boards generally come with a manual. What kind of things are you people doing that require contacting your motherboard's tech support, anyway? I'm just curious, because I've never had a MB problem that has made me think "maybe the manufacturer will help me" - weird operating system or not. --Danny, who also counts nVidia's binary drivers as "support"...
On Monday 28 March 2005 09:11 am, Danny Sauer wrote:
Has he considered hooking a floppy drive up, or is dealing with Asus *so* fun that he likes blowing up every board they send him back? :):)
That begs the question. Should one accept a defective anything just cause he can work around the defect? Ans: No. You bought a new thing that should perform as designed. The mfr should make it right or not sell the thing. Replacing a defective part with another defective part is simply fraud.
On a related note, I've used Asus boards in every machine I've built (at home and at my employer) in the last 5 years. I've had 0 motherboard problems, except for the one where I popped a couple of surface-mount caps off when a screwdriver slipped. Asus sent me a new one. I've contacted MB tech support 0 times in my life, because the boards generally come with a manual. What kind of things are you people doing that require contacting your motherboard's tech support, anyway? I'm just curious, because I've never had a MB problem that has made me think "maybe the manufacturer will help me" - weird operating system or not.
You're a lucky man! Most of us aren't so lucky. That's what warranties are for as in 'warrant to be free of defects in manufacturing,' etc. ra
--Danny, who also counts nVidia's binary drivers as "support"...
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On Monday 28 March 2005 10:13 am, Richard wrote:
On Monday 28 March 2005 09:11 am, Danny Sauer wrote:
Has he considered hooking a floppy drive up, or is dealing with Asus *so* fun that he likes blowing up every board they send him back? :):)
That begs the question. Should one accept a defective anything just cause he can work around the defect?
Ans: No. You bought a new thing that should perform as designed. The mfr should make it right or not sell the thing. Replacing a defective part with another defective part is simply fraud.
I do agree in principle, but how much is his time worth? In my opinion, the time it takes to exchange motherboard after motherboard is less than the cost of a floppy drive, and probably less than the cost of a new motherboard... Besides, maybe it's designed to blow up when the floppy's not connected and working. I personally prefer to just hear a POST beep, but maybe some "creative" engineer thought that causing the whole motherboard to blow up would better draw the user's attention to the failed floppy drive. :)
... I'm just curious, because I've never had a MB problem that has made me think "maybe the manufacturer will help me" - weird operating system or not.
You're a lucky man! Most of us aren't so lucky. That's what warranties are for as in 'warrant to be free of defects in manufacturing,' etc.
Actually, I'd guess that most *are* so lucky - companies who have to replace most of their products under warranty either don't stay in business very long or shorten their warranty (*cough* hard drive manufacturers *cough*). :) --Danny
On Monday 28 March 2005 10:11, Danny Sauer wrote:
I've used Asus boards in every machine I've built (at home and at my employer) in the last 5 years. I've had 0 motherboard problems, except for the one where I popped a couple of surface-mount caps off when a screwdriver slipped. Asus sent me a new one. I've contacted MB tech support 0 times in my life, because the boards generally come with a manual. What kind of things are you people doing that require contacting your motherboard's tech support, anyway? I'm just curious, because I've never had a MB problem that has made me think "maybe the manufacturer will help me" - weird operating system or not.
I too have been using Asus motherboards exclusively for years. I have never had any problem whatsoever running Linux on them or any other problem. Bryan ******************************************************** Powered by SuSE Linux 9.2 Professional KDE 3.3.0 KMail 1.7.1 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson bryantyson@earthlink.net ********************************************************
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On Monday 28 March 2005 10:11, Danny Sauer wrote:
I've used Asus boards in every machine I've built (at home and at my employer) in the last 5 years. I've had 0 motherboard problems, except for the one where I popped a couple of surface-mount caps off when a screwdriver slipped. Asus sent me a new one. I've contacted MB tech support 0 times in my life, because the boards generally come with a manual. What kind of things are you people doing that require contacting your motherboard's tech support, anyway? I'm just curious, because I've never had a MB problem that has made me think "maybe the manufacturer will help me" - weird operating system or not.
I too have been using Asus motherboards exclusively for years. I have never had any problem whatsoever running Linux on them or any other problem.
Bryan
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Bryan Tyson wrote:
On Monday 28 March 2005 10:11, Danny Sauer wrote:
I've used Asus boards in every machine I've built (at home and at my employer) in the last 5 years. I've had 0 motherboard problems, except for the one where I popped a couple of surface-mount caps off when a screwdriver slipped. Asus sent me a new one. I've contacted MB tech support 0 times in my life, because the boards generally come with a manual. What kind of things are you people doing that require contacting your motherboard's tech support, anyway? I'm just curious, because I've never had a MB problem that has made me think "maybe the manufacturer will help me" - weird operating system or not.
I too have been using Asus motherboards exclusively for years. I have never had any problem whatsoever running Linux on them or any other problem.
I've got an ASUS A7V266-E & Athlon Xp 1700+, which I purchased about 3 years ago. It's been running fine.
On Monday 28 March 2005 01.48, David Colburn wrote:
This one sound OK?
ASUS "A7N8X" nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL (New Version, now support AMD Barton 400MHz)
Supported CPU: Socket A AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron Processors Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz RAM: 3x DIMM for Dual Channel un-buffered non-ECC DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB IDE: 2x UltraDMA 133 up to 4 Devices Slots: 1x AGP PRO/8X, 5x PCI Ports: 2xPS2,1xCOM,1xLPT,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio Ports Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6CH w/ built in HP amplifier Onboard LAN: Realtek 8201BL 10/100Mbps Form Factor: ATX
Have had very good luck with AMD Athlon-XP CPUs and Asus N8V7?? (bad memory) with Nvidia chips (sound and ethernet which are kernel supported) and a Asus FX5200 AGP card (requires a FREE Nvidia driver), 512 DDR memory.
hi- my 2 cents worth (suse 9.2 pro) Have been using tha ASUS K8V-X for 6mo. or so. no problems seperate video card - nvidia. (YAST updates the drivers with no problems.) consider SATA drives in your decision. however, once in a while the mobo bios does not wake up the drives during power-up. onboard sound and nic work fine. robert
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On Sunday 27 March 2005 05:48 pm, David Colburn wrote:
This one sound OK? [...] Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP
I'd avoid nVidia chipsets. My new nVidia-based motherboard with Semperon processor gains 10-15 minutes/day. A friend with a recent nVidia board had problems with the system clock "randomly speeding up under WinXP and 2K, causing the double click time and keyboard repeat delay to become almost impossibly short. My system's rock-stable and real fast, but the clock thing really pisses me off. :) --Danny, noting that an ntp client still can't fix it, and that the hardware clock drifts as much as the system/software clock...
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