On 2009/10/20 01:02 (GMT-0500) Rajko M. composed:

On 2009/10/19 22:09:34 (GMT+0200) Tamas Sarga wrote:

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...Samsung T240HD... Do you guys have any idea, what could I do to reach the crt quality of my fonts?

Make sure your display is running at its native resolution. If it isn't, not much of anything will look good, so you should try running sax2 again, ensuring the use of your display's native resolution. Also, be sure the DPI is rational. Some displays provide broken EDID to the X configuration system, which may need to be overridden via manual intervention if sax2 can't get it right. http://fm.no-ip.com/auth/dpi-screen-window.html will quickly show DPI and resolution in Gecko browsers like Firefox & Epiphany, and sometimes in others. You might want to test and compare with the open source nv driver. Whatever you do while testing, be sure to evaluate the content in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, which may point to what needs a fix.

The 1920x1200 doesn't sound as native resolution for 24" wide screen, and that probably creates problem as you describe.

Only recently did anything other than 1920x1200 become common for a 24" display. Widescreen displays for a very long time came primarily in 16:10 format, which is what 1920x1200 is. Lately the marketers have been passing off 16:9 format 1920x1080 HDTVs as computer displays, since most LCD TVs come with VGA input and HDMI anyway. Here's a sample of what's on the market in 24", approximately equal between 16:9 & 16:10: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010190020%201309821328&name=24%22 Oh, and his Samsung T240Hd's native resolution _is_ 1920x1200. http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/samsung-syncmaster-t240hd/4505-3174_7-3...

My 22" wide screen has native resolution 1920x1050 and fonts are fine with

Have you ever found any other display with a native 1920x1050 resolution? That's a non-standard aspect ratio wider than the traditional 16:9 TV (and 16:10 computer display). In 22", 1680x1050 is quite more common than 1920Xwhatever.

same gfx adapter as yours, but on lower resolution 1200x800 which is supported by laptop, fonts are really ugly. This seems to be property of many LCD monitors to have good picture on native resolution and nowhere else.

Most LCDs can only produce good results at native resolution, which matches actual pixels to actual resolution. It's the nature of the technology. -- " A patriot without religion . . . is as great a paradox, as an honest man without the fear of God. . . . 2nd U.S. President, John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Lunes 02 Noviembre 2009 20:44:59 Tamas Sarga escribió:

Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2009/10/20 01:02 (GMT-0500) Rajko M. composed:

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On 2009/10/19 22:09:34 (GMT+0200) Tamas Sarga wrote:

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...Samsung T240HD... Do you guys have any idea, what could I do to reach the crt quality of my fonts?

Make sure your display is running at its native resolution. If it isn't, not much of anything will look good, so you should try running sax2 again, ensuring the use of your display's native resolution.

Also, be sure the DPI is rational. Some displays provide broken EDID to the X configuration system, which may need to be overridden via manual intervention if sax2 can't get it right. http://fm.no-ip.com/auth/dpi-screen-window.html will quickly show DPI and resolution in Gecko browsers like Firefox & Epiphany, and sometimes in others.

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Hi,

Thanks for all the replies.

By the mentioned webpage, I discovered that my resolution is not 1920x1200, but 1600x1200. I looked sax2 again, and set resolution to 1920x1200 without any result, so I started nvidia-settings, what didn't offer anything bigger than 1600x1200. I tried a lot of things without results (different versions of nvidia driver, nv driver, etc.), so I went to nvidia.com and there I saw, that fx5200 can't display bigger picture than 1600x1200 across DVI. I've never heard such kind of limit of a video card.

Now I use 1280x1024, because it is much better than 1600x1200. I'm afraid, that 1920x1200 across vga cable would be worse. It is not perfect now, but usable at least.

Try use xrandr -- Saludos Lluis

On 2009/11/02 20:44 (GMT+0100) Tamas Sarga composed:

Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2009/10/20 01:02 (GMT-0500) Rajko M. composed:

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On 2009/10/19 22:09:34 (GMT+0200) Tamas Sarga wrote:

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Make sure your display is running at its native resolution. If it isn't, not much of anything will look good, so you should try running sax2 again, ensuring the use of your display's native resolution.

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Also, be sure the DPI is rational. Some displays provide broken EDID to the X configuration system, which may need to be overridden via manual intervention if sax2 can't get it right. http://fm.no-ip.com/auth/dpi-screen-window.html will quickly show DPI and resolution in Gecko browsers like Firefox & Epiphany, and sometimes in others.

By the mentioned webpage, I discovered that my resolution is not 1920x1200, but 1600x1200. I looked sax2 again, and set resolution to 1920x1200 without any result, so I started nvidia-settings, what didn't offer anything bigger than 1600x1200. I tried a lot of things without results (different versions of nvidia driver, nv driver, etc.), so I went to nvidia.com and there I saw, that fx5200 can't display bigger picture than 1600x1200 across DVI. I've never heard such kind of limit of a video card.

I have. The 5200 is an entry level design. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce

Now I use 1280x1024, because it is much better than 1600x1200. I'm afraid, that 1920x1200 across vga cable would be worse. It is not perfect now, but usable at least.

Your fear is unfounded. I doubt anyone on the planet using a native 1920x1200 display larger than 13" would find running it at 1920x1200 on a VGA cable inferior to 1280x1024 on a DVI cable. DVI is often no more than theoretically better than VGA, if not worse, as you're experiencing. I'd have to see for myself to understand why you find 1280x1024 better than 1600x1200. The latter is 4:3 (12:9), and closer to 16:10 (1920x1200) than is 5:4 1280x1024 (15:12). The two puters I use 24/7 are connected to displays supporting DVI via ATI PCIe cards (both newer than fx5200) with both DVI and VGA ports. I use only the VGA. -- The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 1 Corinthians 7:3 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Rajko M. [10-20-09 02:04]:

On Monday 19 October 2009 15:09:34 Tamas Sarga wrote:

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Do you guys have any idea, what could I do to reach the crt quality of my fonts?

The 1920x1200 doesn't sound as native resolution for 24" wide screen, and that probably creates problem as you describe.

My Samsung SyncMaster 2433bw has 19200x1200 as native and I use it. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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On Tuesday October 20 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Rajko M. [10-20-09 02:04]:

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On Monday 19 October 2009 15:09:34 Tamas Sarga wrote:

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Do you guys have any idea, what could I do to reach the crt quality of my fonts?

Relentless trial and error. The choice of fonts, sizes and rendering options that are optimal (for any particular person) for a CRT are quite unlikely to be ideal for an LCD monitor.

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The 1920x1200 doesn't sound as native resolution for 24" wide screen, and that probably creates problem as you describe. My Samsung SyncMaster 2433bw has 19200x1200 as native and I use it.

Likewise for my Samsung SyncMaster T240HD.

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-- Patrick Shanahan

Randall Schulz

Now that is one wide screen, "19200". :-) -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2009/10/20 20:38 (GMT-0700) Randall R Schulz composed:

On Tuesday October 20 2009, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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Now that is one wide screen, "19200". :-)

I could be enough. Under the assumption there is such a thing as enough display area.

I think it's like HP in hot rodding. Lots is good, more is better, and too much is just right. :-) -- " A patriot without religion . . . is as great a paradox, as an honest man without the fear of God. . . . 2nd U.S. President, John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org