-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2009-02-26 at 21:10 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

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Why in the world would I have a 14 gigabyte log file??

logorotate is not being executed it seems.

That would attempt to compress the file, leaving the old, compressed version in site. And my guess is that compression would fail. The real problem is why such a big log was created, there must have been a lot of reporting. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmnUmYACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WEWgCfTyz6ZaTsanoKseNXxivlXoSv /eoAnjSZgFYrM6i9ly+/9VaV36xCi9cb =4Cy3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jim Henderson schreef:

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:11:02 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:

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There was a file - zypper.log-20090222 - that was 14 GB in size out of a 20 GB partition. df -h gave me 0MB available. I just had a hunch and took a look in /var/log for big files.

I've found Filelight to be useful in identifying things like this, FWIW.

And when you can't login with a GUI, use ncdu. (his initial problem was that he couldn't start KDE so Filelight would have been a bit difficult) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jay Mistry schreef:

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And when you can't login with a GUI, use ncdu. (his initial problem was that he couldn't start KDE so Filelight would have been a bit difficult)

What is ncdu ? I could not find it on openSUSE 11.1 desktop or in Webpin.

Jay

It's not because the software isn't in any OpenSuse repo, that it doesn't exist. "As the name already suggests, ncdu is an ncurses version of the famous old 'du' unix command. It provides a fast and easy interface to your harddrive. Where is your disk space going? Why is your home directory that large? ncdu can answer those questions for you in just a matter of seconds!" http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu/ Use The Source, Luke! :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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What is ncdu ? I could not find it on openSUSE 11.1 desktop or in Webpin.

Jay

It's not because the software isn't in any OpenSuse repo, that it doesn't exist.

"As the name already suggests, ncdu is an ncurses version of the famous old 'du' unix command. It provides a fast and easy interface to your harddrive. Where is your disk space going? Why is your home directory that large? ncdu can answer those questions for you in just a matter of seconds!"

http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu/

Amedee, thanks for pointing out. Till now I was using KdirStat (and it's Windows equivalent WinDirStat) to find disk space usage.

But as someone pointed out earlier those would not be useful if one cannot get to a graphical login.

Not sure what ncurses are. I don't like cursing too much, especially around the kids. I did find the du command and have it put in my blackberry commands reference for future use. :)

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Use The Source, Luke! :)

Took me a while to figure this out,... (not a Star Wars fan).

My condolences.. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7WIwyR_aAQ (That was about four years ago messing with LiVES.) -- kai www.perfectreign.com | www.ecmplace.com www.twitter.com/PerfectReign -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Kai Ponte wrote:

Jay Mistry wrote:

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What is ncdu ? I could not find it on openSUSE 11.1 desktop or in Webpin.

Jay

It's not because the software isn't in any OpenSuse repo, that it doesn't exist.

"As the name already suggests, ncdu is an ncurses version of the famous old 'du' unix command. It provides a fast and easy interface to your harddrive. Where is your disk space going? Why is your home directory that large? ncdu can answer those questions for you in just a matter of seconds!"

http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu/

Amedee, thanks for pointing out. Till now I was using KdirStat (and it's Windows equivalent WinDirStat) to find disk space usage.

But as someone pointed out earlier those would not be useful if one cannot get to a graphical login.

Not sure what ncurses are. I don't like cursing too much, especially around the kids.

I did find the du command and have it put in my blackberry commands reference for future use. :)

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Use The Source, Luke! :)

Took me a while to figure this out,... (not a Star Wars fan).

My condolences.. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7WIwyR_aAQ

(That was about four years ago messing with LiVES.)

The first Star Wars movie came out about 32 years ago. I went to see it in 1977. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Randall R Schulz wrote:

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I did find the du command ...

Just now???

Well, a couple of days ago, yes. I don't see it in any of the KMenu options, so I wouldn't have seen it otherwise. -- kai www.perfectreign.com | www.ecmplace.com www.twitter.com/PerfectReign -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Randall R Schulz schreef:

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Use The Source, Luke! :)

A proposition with which I cannot agree. Software that wants users should be documented. It's preposterous to expect potential users to reverse engineer a program's use and operation from its source code.

But then there are some that consider pre-compiled software harmful and user-hostile. It all depends on what your definition of a user is. Some users are pointy-click drones, and other users are power users. Anyway ncdu *has* documentation. There is http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu/man/ for usage, and http://svn.blicky.net/ncdu/view/trunk/README for installation instructions. It is cleanly packaged as a compileable tarball, conform unix/linux standards as they have always been even before suse or opensuse ever existed. -- Amedee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Randall R Schulz schreef:

On Sunday March 1 2009, Amedee Van Gasse wrote:

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Randall R Schulz schreef:

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Use The Source, Luke! :) A proposition with which I cannot agree. Software that wants users should be documented. It's preposterous to expect potential users to reverse engineer a program's use and operation from its source code. But then there are some that consider pre-compiled software harmful and user-hostile.

That's an entirely different matter. If you want to run only software whose source you can read, that's great. But most software users are not programmers and this is meaningless to them.

I'm not a programmer either. Compiling an already written program is entirely different from programming a piece of software from scratch. But I suppose that's just semantics for you.

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It all depends on what your definition of a user is. Some users are pointy-click drones, and other users are power users.

And which are more numerous? This is the same as with any technology, it cannot succeed if it only caters to the needs of cognoscenti.

I had to google that last word, because I'm not one.

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Anyway ncdu *has* documentation.

Great. So why give that inane "use the source" line?

Because it sounds so cool to say or write those words. It makes me feel that I'm part of some larger community of hackers and other technically gifted people who are in a constant battle against the Forces of Evil (aka Microsoft). ;-)

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... It is cleanly packaged as a compileable tarball, ...

People who have work to do and / or who are not software developers should not and cannot be expected to build software in order to be able to use it.

You still haven't answered my question: Where I (or Kai) can get ncdu properly packaged for openSUSE?

You can always file a bug report, or whatever the proper procedure is for Opensuse. It's working for me, that's all I need to know, and I only wanted to share that. I didn't expect that I had to defend myself. Srsly. You should go a little easier on the caffeine, Randall. -- Amedee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2009/03/01 23:33 (GMT+0100) Carlos E. R. composed:

On Sunday, 2009-03-01 at 13:32 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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You still haven't answered my question: Where I (or Kai) can get ncdu properly packaged for openSUSE?

Webpin finds it:

* ncdu: NCurses Disk Usage - 1.4 [BS::home:/pbleser:/Utilities] >> ncdu.spec

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/pbleser:/Utilities/openSUSE_... Works nice. :-) -- "The plans of the diligent lead to profit as surely as haste leads to poverty." Proverbs 21:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday March 1 2009, Rajko M. wrote:

On Sunday 01 March 2009 09:38:41 am Kai Ponte wrote: ..

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Not sure what ncurses are. I don't like cursing too much, especially around the kids.

Than it seems right thing for you: ncurses > no-curses (as far as I can see)

N is "new" in this case. It is the second-generation cursor-addressing library for Unix.

-- Regards, Rajko

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On Sunday March 1 2009, Amedee Van Gasse wrote:

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And when you can't login with a GUI, use ncdu.

I can't find ncdu. What package from what repository supplies it? Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday March 1 2009, Amedee Van Gasse wrote:

Randall R Schulz schreef:

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On Sunday March 1 2009, Amedee Van Gasse wrote:

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And when you can't login with a GUI, use ncdu.

I can't find ncdu. What package from what repository supplies it?

None. You have to install it from source. See other part of the thread for details.

I'll make due with plain old "du," thanks.

-- Amedee

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* Patrick Shanahan [01-01-70 12:34]:

* Randall R Schulz [03-01-09 12:51]:

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I can't find ncdu. What package from what repository supplies it?

guru packages it, Pascal Bleser, well known around here :^)

source is available: http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu/

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/pbleser:/Utilities/openSUSE_... source rpm for 11.0 rpmbuild --rebuild ncdu-1.4-1.1.scr.rpm should give you a working model for 11.1 -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/pbleser:/Utilities/openSUSE_...

source rpm for 11.0

rpmbuild --rebuild ncdu-1.4-1.1.scr.rpm should give you a working model for 11.1

On trying above, I get the following error:    RPM build errors:        InstallSourcePackage: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID d8296543        Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.20742 (%build) The complete install log is here: http://nopaste.com/p/aUOiFWDF5 Jay -- Registered Linux User # 483705  @ http://counter.li.org/  (openSUSE 11.1, i686) Smolts Profile: http://www.smolts.org/client/show/?uuid=pub_b541a450-9bc1-45fd-beab-d46ee43a... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday March 1 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Randall R Schulz [03-01-09 12:51]:

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I can't find ncdu. What package from what repository supplies it?

guru packages it, Pascal Bleser, well known around here :^)

Indeed. However I note these things: 1) Guru is not mentioned at http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories 2) According to http://opensuse-community.org/Guru: "Since openSUSE 10.3, the Guru repository has merged with Packman, so you need it only if you use openSUSE 10.2 or older." I have Packman configured, but it does not include "ncdu."

source is available: http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu/

Yeah, I got that from Amedee

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On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:10:06 +0100, you wrote:

With the source available, compiling it in your own home project on OBS should be rather painless.

And if you're still interested, check my home project home:psmt :) Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Kai Ponte schreef:

jdd wrote:

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Kai Ponte a écrit :

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On boot, after selecting which user to login with, I get the message, "Call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full?). Check your installation."

you can give us a new "df -h" let only to see is there is room and where :-)

jdd

Aha!

There was a file - zypper.log-20090222 - that was 14 GB in size out of a 20 GB partition. df -h gave me 0MB available. I just had a hunch and took a look in /var/log for big files.

When you don't have a hunch, use ncdu. Install it now, in case you may ever need it again. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org