[opensuse] font wierdness in kdm on openSUSE 11.4
In my KDE login, the font used to show the login name and password (stars) is disproportionately large. It looks quite unprofessional. Where are the fonts for KDM controlled? Similarly, where is the resolution of the display defined fro KDM? It seems to often use a different resolution than X. And X is determining this automatically these days. So I guess KDM is as well? I looked in /etc/sysconfig, but nothing I saw looked like it was relevant. It has been this way both for the original KDE that shipped with 11.4, and the 4.6.1 release to which I have upgraded. Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/04/12 14:22 (GMT+0200) Roger Oberholtzer composed:
In my KDE login, the font used to show the login name and password (stars) is disproportionately large. It looks quite unprofessional. Where are the fonts for KDM controlled?
Similarly, where is the resolution of the display defined fro KDM? It seems to often use a different resolution than X. And X is determining this automatically these days. So I guess KDM is as well?
I looked in /etc/sysconfig, but nothing I saw looked like it was relevant.
It has been this way both for the original KDE that shipped with 11.4, and the 4.6.1 release to which I have upgraded.
I wouldn't know if anything's changed from 4.6 to 4.6.1, but if you're forcing DPI within your KDE desktop, that methodology wouldn't affect the KDM login screen. KDM login screen uses whatever DPI X determines on its own, automagically if there are no *.conf files or xrandr DPI additions to xinitrc in /etc/X11/. KDM fonts are controlled by kdmrc buried somewhere in the /usr/ rat's nest. I usually hunt that down, then make a symlink to its parent in /etc where it should be in the first place. What DPI is your display actually? A laptop maybe? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 08:41 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
KDM fonts are controlled by kdmrc buried somewhere in the /usr/ rat's nest. I usually hunt that down, then make a symlink to its parent in /etc where it should be in the first place.
The file must be /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. How does this relate to /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager? I know they have different settings. Perhaps displaymanager only has things common to all the login managers supported and not just kdm?
What DPI is your display actually? A laptop maybe?
Yep. A new Sony with an nvidia chipset (GeForce GT 425M (GF108)) that seems to have less-than-complete support in nvidia's own driver. No 3D effects, even though X claims it is enabling the stuff I think allows it. But that is a different issue. The display is: dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (361x200 millimeters) resolution: 135x137 dots per inch After login, X reports: [ 47.868] (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: [ 47.868] (II) NVIDIA(0): "nvidia-auto-select" [ 47.868] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 1080 [ 48.690] (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (135, 137); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config After login the fonts are reasonable. It is only kdm that is off. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 SHAW'S PRINCIPAL Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/04/12 21:16 (GMT+0200) Roger Oberholtzer composed:
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 08:41 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
KDM fonts are controlled by kdmrc buried somewhere in the /usr/ rat's nest. I usually hunt that down, then make a symlink to its parent in /etc where it should be in the first place.
The file must be /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. How does this relate to /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager?
There is a very minimal group of things in displaymanager that can override what's in kdmrc.
I know they have different settings. Perhaps displaymanager only has things common to all the login managers supported and not just kdm?
Likely. Why not open systemsettings and configure login manager to have fonts you like?
What DPI is your display actually? A laptop maybe?
Yep. A new Sony with an nvidia chipset (GeForce GT 425M (GF108)) that seems to have less-than-complete support in nvidia's own driver. No 3D effects, even though X claims it is enabling the stuff I think allows it. But that is a different issue. The display is:
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (361x200 millimeters)
That's around 16".
resolution: 135x137 dots per inch
Rather high, at least compared to the 96 that Google Chrome and ReKonq always assume, and Gecko wants to assume.
After login, X reports:
[ 47.868] (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: [ 47.868] (II) NVIDIA(0): "nvidia-auto-select" [ 47.868] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 1080 [ 48.690] (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (135, 137); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config
The thing is, what Xorg.0.log reports for DPI doesn't always match what apps use...
After login the fonts are reasonable. It is only kdm that is off.
Everything's relative. Not everyone's idea of "reasonable" is the same. What does http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-window.html as your DPI in each of your installed browsers? What DPI does KInfoCenter report for XServer? Can you upload a screenshot of your desktop somewhere where we can see what you find "reasonable"? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 13:56 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
After login the fonts are reasonable. It is only kdm that is off.
Everything's relative. Not everyone's idea of "reasonable" is the same. What does http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-window.html as your DPI in each of your installed browsers? What DPI does KInfoCenter report for XServer? Can you upload a screenshot of your desktop somewhere where we can see what you find "reasonable"?
The site above looks ok in Firefox. Chrome reports the 254mm measure as 180mm - and it looks worse. Still, not the problem at hand. KInfoCenter report the same as xwininfo, which is what I reported before. I will see where I can place an image. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 SHAW'S PRINCIPAL Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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