[opensuse] Question about the kernels for openSUSE
Could anyone please answer this one for me: are the kernels available in, say, the .../Kernel:/stable/standard repository specifically written to be used ONLY in openSUSE or can they be used in any other Linux distro? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.5 & kernel 3.10.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
Could anyone please answer this one for me: are the kernels available in, say, the .../Kernel:/stable/standard repository specifically written to be used ONLY in openSUSE or can they be used in any other Linux distro?
Any other distro. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (18.9°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/07/13 15:46, Per Jessen wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Could anyone please answer this one for me: are the kernels available in, say, the .../Kernel:/stable/standard repository specifically written to be used ONLY in openSUSE or can they be used in any other Linux distro? Any other distro.
Thanks Per. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.5 & kernel 3.10.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:46:56 +0200 Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
Any other distro.
? What do you do with: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/vanilla/standard -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Rajko wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:46:56 +0200 Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
Any other distro.
?
What do you do with: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/vanilla/standard
I don't know what you mean? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:45:17 +0100, Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
Could anyone please answer this one for me: are the kernels available in, say, the .../Kernel:/stable/standard repository specifically written to be used ONLY in openSUSE or can they be used in any other Linux distro?
BC
They are for openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/07/13 19:05, Carl Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:45:17 +0100, Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
Could anyone please answer this one for me: are the kernels available in, say, the .../Kernel:/stable/standard repository specifically written to be used ONLY in openSUSE or can they be used in any other Linux distro?
BC
They are for openSUSE
Now this has me all confu-sed :-) . One says for all, one says only for oS :-) . Do we take this to a vote?8-) . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.5 & kernel 3.10.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/14/2013 01:51 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 11/07/13 19:05, Carl Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:45:17 +0100, Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
Could anyone please answer this one for me: are the kernels available in, say, the .../Kernel:/stable/standard repository specifically written to be used ONLY in openSUSE or can they be used in any other Linux distro?
BC
They are for openSUSE
Now this has me all confu-sed :-) . One says for all, one says only for oS :-) . Do we take this to a vote?8-) .
Now I am gonna confuse you more ;P ..Seriously, do not use openSUSE kernel packages in other distributions. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 14/07/13 17:08, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 07/14/2013 01:51 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 11/07/13 19:05, Carl Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:45:17 +0100, Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
Could anyone please answer this one for me: are the kernels available in, say, the .../Kernel:/stable/standard repository specifically written to be used ONLY in openSUSE or can they be used in any other Linux distro?
BC
They are for openSUSE
Now this has me all confu-sed :-) . One says for all, one says only for oS :-) . Do we take this to a vote?8-) .
Now I am gonna confuse you more ;P ..Seriously, do not use openSUSE kernel packages in other distributions.
OK :-) . But isn't the kernel, the main stay of Linux, supposed to be "universal" and what someone adds to it is available to all? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.5 & kernel 3.10.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
[14.07.2013 10:45] [Basil Chupin]:
But isn't the kernel, the main stay of Linux, supposed to be "universal" and what someone adds to it is available to all?
"The kernel" as in "the one you can get from kernel.org": yes. "The openSUSE kernel" may have special add-ons/features/config parameters that are specific to openSUSE. So there is a difference between the "vanilla" kernel (which is quite like the kernel.org one) and the openSUSE kernel as in /Kernel:/stable/standard. Just my 2¢ Werner -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 14/07/13 19:19, Werner Flamme wrote:
[14.07.2013 10:45] [Basil Chupin]:
But isn't the kernel, the main stay of Linux, supposed to be "universal" and what someone adds to it is available to all? "The kernel" as in "the one you can get from kernel.org": yes.
"The openSUSE kernel" may have special add-ons/features/config parameters that are specific to openSUSE. So there is a difference between the "vanilla" kernel (which is quite like the kernel.org one) and the openSUSE kernel as in /Kernel:/stable/standard.
Just my 2¢ Werner
Thanks, Werner. I would suspect that the config parameters would be the ones which would make the kernel openSUSE-specific otherwise the kernel would be more proprietary which is not what Linux is all about - I think :-) . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.5 & kernel 3.10.1-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:24:58 +1000 Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
the config parameters would be the ones which would make the kernel openSUSE-specific otherwise
Configuration is not the only way to make some code different, there can be patches that did not make in mainline kernel.
the kernel would be more proprietary
Nothing like that :) Patches are open source too, just they are not in "vanilla" kernel. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 06:45:10PM +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 14/07/13 17:08, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 07/14/2013 01:51 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 11/07/13 19:05, Carl Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:45:17 +0100, Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
Could anyone please answer this one for me: are the kernels available in, say, the .../Kernel:/stable/standard repository specifically written to be used ONLY in openSUSE or can they be used in any other Linux distro?
BC
They are for openSUSE
Now this has me all confu-sed :-) . One says for all, one says only for oS :-) . Do we take this to a vote?8-) .
Now I am gonna confuse you more ;P ..Seriously, do not use openSUSE kernel packages in other distributions.
OK :-) .
But isn't the kernel, the main stay of Linux, supposed to be "universal" and what someone adds to it is available to all?
The kernel might work, however all the scripts we have in the rpm will not easily hook into other distributions. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun 14 Jul 2013 07:48:51 PM CDT, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 06:45:10PM +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 14/07/13 17:08, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 07/14/2013 01:51 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 11/07/13 19:05, Carl Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:45:17 +0100, Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
Could anyone please answer this one for me: are the kernels available in, say, the .../Kernel:/stable/standard repository specifically written to be used ONLY in openSUSE or can they be used in any other Linux distro?
BC
They are for openSUSE
Now this has me all confu-sed :-) . One says for all, one says only for oS :-) . Do we take this to a vote?8-) .
Now I am gonna confuse you more ;P ..Seriously, do not use openSUSE kernel packages in other distributions.
OK :-) .
But isn't the kernel, the main stay of Linux, supposed to be "universal" and what someone adds to it is available to all?
The kernel might work, however all the scripts we have in the rpm will not easily hook into other distributions.
Ciao, Marcus Hi And if secure boot is enabled, the keys won't be available on another distribution...?
-- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop up 0:58, 3 users, load average: 0.41, 0.23, 0.15 CPU AMD E2-1800@1.70GHz | GPU Radeon HD 7340 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 01:05:51PM -0500, Malcolm wrote:
On Sun 14 Jul 2013 07:48:51 PM CDT, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 06:45:10PM +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 14/07/13 17:08, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 07/14/2013 01:51 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 11/07/13 19:05, Carl Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:45:17 +0100, Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Could anyone please answer this one for me: are the kernels > available in, say, the .../Kernel:/stable/standard repository > specifically written to be used ONLY in openSUSE or can they be > used in any other Linux distro? > > BC >
They are for openSUSE
Now this has me all confu-sed :-) . One says for all, one says only for oS :-) . Do we take this to a vote?8-) .
Now I am gonna confuse you more ;P ..Seriously, do not use openSUSE kernel packages in other distributions.
OK :-) .
But isn't the kernel, the main stay of Linux, supposed to be "universal" and what someone adds to it is available to all?
The kernel might work, however all the scripts we have in the rpm will not easily hook into other distributions.
Ciao, Marcus Hi And if secure boot is enabled, the keys won't be available on another distribution...?
Thats really depends on what the other distribution does, but yes, secure boot is also an interesting thing. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 15/07/13 03:48, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 06:45:10PM +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 14/07/13 17:08, Cristian Rodr�guez wrote:
On 07/14/2013 01:51 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 11/07/13 19:05, Carl Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:45:17 +0100, Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
Could anyone please answer this one for me: are the kernels available in, say, the .../Kernel:/stable/standard repository specifically written to be used ONLY in openSUSE or can they be used in any other Linux distro?
BC
They are for openSUSE Now this has me all confu-sed :-) . One says for all, one says only for oS :-) . Do we take this to a vote?8-) .
Now I am gonna confuse you more ;P ..Seriously, do not use openSUSE kernel packages in other distributions. OK :-) .
But isn't the kernel, the main stay of Linux, supposed to be "universal" and what someone adds to it is available to all? The kernel might work, however all the scripts we have in the rpm will not easily hook into other distributions.
Ciao, Marcus
Thanks Marcus. I thought as much- that it had more to do with the installation scripts rather than the kernel itelf. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.5 & kernel 3.10.1-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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