[opensuse] Distributing Tasks between 2 Computers
Hi, i would like to operate a second computer so i can use more hard disks and CPU power. Is this easy to do with 1 monitor and keyboard ? I am already using a simple router. What is the best setup you would recommend ? Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Philippe Landau a écrit :
Hi, i would like to operate a second computer so i can use more hard disks and CPU power. Is this easy to do with 1 monitor and keyboard ? I am already using a simple router. What is the best setup you would recommend ?
Kind regards Philippe
best is to have two separate complete ones, there is always something that need rebooting (let alone kernel updates) or other urgent thing when you are compiling any video or printing very long manual... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Philippe Landau a écrit :
Hi, i would like to operate a second computer so i can use more hard disks and CPU power. Is this easy to do with 1 monitor and keyboard ? I am already using a simple router. What is the best setup you would recommend ?
Kind regards Philippe
best is to have two separate complete ones, there is always something that need rebooting (let alone kernel updates) or other urgent thing when you are compiling any video or printing very long manual...
jdd
???? With the included remote desktop software included with Linux, there's no need for that. I use XDMCP among all my computers and it works well. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Philippe Landau a écrit :
Hi, i would like to operate a second computer so i can use more hard disks and CPU power. Is this easy to do with 1 monitor and keyboard ? I am already using a simple router. What is the best setup you would recommend ?
Kind regards Philippe
best is to have two separate complete ones,
A KVM is simpler. Unless you rally WANT two monitors, two keyboards and worst of all, two mice on your desk
there is always something that need rebooting (let alone kernel updates) or other urgent thing when you are compiling any video or printing very long manual...
Like everyone is installing the nightly kernels.... I typically go several WEEKS without rebooting. And that has to do more with memory leaks in apps than the OS itself.
jdd
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Over 22 hours ago on 2008/02/05 09:17 (GMT-0500) Aaron Kulkis apparently typed:
jdd wrote:
Philippe Landau a écrit :
Hi, i would like to operate a second computer so i can use more hard disks and CPU power. Is this easy to do with 1 monitor and keyboard ? I am already using a simple router. What is the best setup you would recommend ?
best is to have two separate complete ones,
A KVM is simpler.
Unless you rally WANT two monitors, two keyboards and worst of all, two mice on your desk
I do 3, 3, 3, except I use trackballs, and don't use "a" desk. -- "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Aaron Kulkis a écrit :
Like everyone is installing the nightly kernels....
I typically go several WEEKS without rebooting. And that has to do more with memory leaks in apps than the OS itself.
may be, but it's always at the bed time :-). I also do many video compile (~4/5 hours) and dvd burning that are better done on a separate computer and a good kvm module is expensive (more than keyboard/mouse). The problem is the display, but I have a laptop and a good CRT for photo, so... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Aaron Kulkis a écrit :
Like everyone is installing the nightly kernels....
I typically go several WEEKS without rebooting. And that has to do more with memory leaks in apps than the OS itself.
may be, but it's always at the bed time :-). I also do many video compile (~4/5 hours) and dvd burning that are better done on a separate computer
and a good kvm module is expensive (more than keyboard/mouse).
Not nearly as expensive as a 2nd monitor. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
Aaron Kulkis a écrit :
Like everyone is installing the nightly kernels....
I typically go several WEEKS without rebooting. And that has to do more with memory leaks in apps than the OS itself.
may be, but it's always at the bed time :-). I also do many video compile (~4/5 hours) and dvd burning that are better done on a separate computer
and a good kvm module is expensive (more than keyboard/mouse). The problem is the display, but I have a laptop and a good CRT for photo, so...
jdd
Also, Linux tends to have a problem with the mouse, if a KVM is used. If z-axis is enabled, the mouse will go crazy, when switching systems. This definitely happens with PS/2, but I don't know about USB switches. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
jdd wrote:
Aaron Kulkis a écrit :
Like everyone is installing the nightly kernels....
I typically go several WEEKS without rebooting. And that has to do more with memory leaks in apps than the OS itself. may be, but it's always at the bed time :-). I also do many video compile (~4/5 hours) and dvd burning that are better done on a separate computer
and a good kvm module is expensive (more than keyboard/mouse). The problem is the display, but I have a laptop and a good CRT for photo, so...
jdd
Also, Linux tends to have a problem with the mouse, if a KVM is used. If z-axis is enabled, the mouse will go crazy, when switching systems. This definitely happens with PS/2, but I don't know about USB switches.
That depends on the KVM. Well-designed KVM's that don't let voltages float don't induce that problem. The difference between a well-designed KVM and not is one resistor per computer-side mouse connection, which comes to a manufacturing side cost of about $0.05 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Philippe Landau wrote:
Hi, i would like to operate a second computer so i can use more hard disks and CPU power. Is this easy to do with 1 monitor and keyboard ? I am already using a simple router. What is the best setup you would recommend ?
Kind regards Philippe
A KVM switch usually is OK if the machines are close together. Otherwise have something cheap and cheerful on one and drive everything else via X on your main machine. Usually is not too much of a problem... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHpxo+asN0sSnLmgIRAvnYAKDzuB2XxiB0tbEysWUw+kfJ6kftCQCgleu3 yE8VmQFBQbfZUg/6fjJGTEw= =qgO/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
G T Smith wrote:
Philippe Landau wrote:
Hi, i would like to operate a second computer so i can use more hard disks and CPU power. Is this easy to do with 1 monitor and keyboard ? I am already using a simple router. What is the best setup you would recommend ? A KVM switch usually is OK if the machines are close together. Otherwise have something cheap and cheerful on one and drive everything else via X on your main machine.
Usually is not too much of a problem... Thanks jdd, gandalf and ka1ifq for your replies. Buying a second monitor would be great, but i don't find a big one with 24bit and affordable.
http://en.opensuse.org/Remote_Access_to_SUSE explains that the best way to run GUI tasks on a second machine, using one monitor and no KVM, would be to establish a network and then use NX by Nomachine.com. Is FreeNX which he doesn't mention better ? VNC apparently is * - Difficult to install and use (... lets not dwell.) * - Slow * - UnSecure * - Can not adjust to different client monitor sizes easily * - Bad server and client management (... lets not dwell.) :-) Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Philippe Landau a écrit :
VNC apparently is * - Difficult to install and use (... lets not dwell.)
?? very easy to install and use
* - Slow
yes, very slow (but I used it years ago on slow hardware) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 04 February 2008 16:51, jdd wrote:
Philippe Landau a écrit :
VNC apparently is * - Difficult to install and use (... lets not dwell.)
?? very easy to install and use
* - Slow
yes, very slow (but I used it years ago on slow hardware)
jdd
Why not simply "ssh -X <hostname> ??? Thats what i do when i want to run something intensive. My main workstation is an older p3 @1 ghz with a triple head setup. My "cruncher" is a p4 ht @3Ghz, no keyboard, mouse or monitor. It is placed in a closet in another room. Over a 100 switched network its fast enough for heavy gimp. and other tasks. Sure, i dont run GAMES over that line. but then again, i never play so... -- /Rikard ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- email : rikard.j@rikjoh.com web : http://www.rikjoh.com mob: : +46 (0)763 19 76 25 ------------------------ Public PGP fingerprint ---------------------------- < 15 28 DF 78 67 98 B2 16 1F D3 FD C5 59 D4 B6 78 46 1C EE 56 >
Philippe Landau wrote:
G T Smith wrote:
Philippe Landau wrote:
Hi, i would like to operate a second computer so i can use more hard disks and CPU power. Is this easy to do with 1 monitor and keyboard ? I am already using a simple router. What is the best setup you would recommend ? A KVM switch usually is OK if the machines are close together. Otherwise have something cheap and cheerful on one and drive everything else via X on your main machine.
Usually is not too much of a problem... Thanks jdd, gandalf and ka1ifq for your replies. Buying a second monitor would be great, but i don't find a big one with 24bit and affordable.
http://en.opensuse.org/Remote_Access_to_SUSE explains that the best way to run GUI tasks on a second machine, using one monitor and no KVM, would be to establish a network and then use NX by Nomachine.com. Is FreeNX which he doesn't mention better ? VNC apparently is * - Difficult to install and use (... lets not dwell.)
That's never been a problem that I've noticed
* - Slow
Kind of, yes
* - UnSecure
Definitely... but if both machines are in the house, behind a firewall, it's not something I would worry about.
* - Can not adjust to different client monitor sizes easily
Not an issue for what the OP describes.
* - Bad server and client management (... lets not dwell.)
Again, I think that accusation is overblown.
:-)
Kind regards Philippe
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Philippe Landau wrote:
Hi, i would like to operate a second computer so i can use more hard disks and CPU power. Is this easy to do with 1 monitor and keyboard ? I am already using a simple router. What is the best setup you would recommend ?
Kind regards Philippe
Remote desktop support is already built into Linux. One method is to use XDMCP, which will allow you to access the desktop of a different computer and switch between computers. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Philippe Landau wrote:
Hi, i would like to operate a second computer so i can use more hard disks and CPU power. Is this easy to do with 1 monitor and keyboard ? I am already using a simple router. What is the best setup you would recommend ? Remote desktop support is already built into Linux. One method is to use XDMCP, which will allow you to access the desktop of a different computer and switch between computers. How exactly would you use it to avoid security problems ? The explanation on http://en.opensuse.org/Remote_Access_to_SUSE is not very clear to me. And what is the advantage of NX/VNC ?
Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Philippe Landau wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Philippe Landau wrote:
Hi, i would like to operate a second computer so i can use more hard disks and CPU power. Is this easy to do with 1 monitor and keyboard ? I am already using a simple router. What is the best setup you would recommend ? Remote desktop support is already built into Linux. One method is to use XDMCP, which will allow you to access the desktop of a different computer and switch between computers. How exactly would you use it to avoid security problems ? The explanation on http://en.opensuse.org/Remote_Access_to_SUSE is not very clear to me. And what is the advantage of NX/VNC ?
Kind regards Philippe
I believe you can send X through ssh, though I've never done that. You can also use a VPN, which I have done. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 James Knott wrote:
Philippe Landau wrote:
James Knott wrote:
Philippe Landau wrote:
Hi, i would like to operate a second computer so i can use more hard disks and CPU power. Is this easy to do with 1 monitor and keyboard ? I am already using a simple router. What is the best setup you would recommend ? Remote desktop support is already built into Linux. One method is to use XDMCP, which will allow you to access the desktop of a different computer and switch between computers. How exactly would you use it to avoid security problems ? The explanation on http://en.opensuse.org/Remote_Access_to_SUSE is not very clear to me. And what is the advantage of NX/VNC ?
Kind regards Philippe
I believe you can send X through ssh, though I've never done that. You can also use a VPN, which I have done.
You can ... ssh -Xf [<username>@]<hostname> xterm at CLI, which works well for me as a starting point for local access.... I vaguely remember having to do something with the config to get it to work but that was a loooong time ago. - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHqBxbasN0sSnLmgIRAmYUAJ93WNJQuKlXOVM0y5qJ6oMPf6JvDgCgyhNt 3tJ0G6zi5G8Z8K3BYktc/JQ= =nzS9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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