Any recommendations for how to view a *WPS *MS Works Text Document on Linux. Someone is sending these to my wife who only uses Linux. Openoffice doesn't want to do this. At least the version that came with 10.2. Cheers, Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 2007-02-22 21:13, Robert Lewis wrote:
Any recommendations for how to view a *WPS *MS Works Text Document on Linux. ...
Do you know what version of Works was used? Even Works won't often load other, older versions of Works file. If you can get the sender to use Works to export in another format that should help. (Or get the person to start using OpenOffice.) I've heard a rumor that Abiword may have some success getting something out of some versions of Works files. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 18:13 -0800, Robert Lewis wrote:
Any recommendations for how to view a *WPS *MS Works Text Document on Linux. Someone is sending these to my wife who only uses Linux.
Openoffice doesn't want to do this. At least the version that came with 10.2.
Cheers, Bob I just recently, within the last 3 days, read an article that there was a plugin now available for OOo that would read MSWorks files. Do a search on Google.
Art -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
After extensive google searches and reading I have not been able to read the file under Linux. I tried AbiWord but that didn't do it either. I tried the latest OpenOffice and that gave the same error. The version of MSWorks that they are using is Version 8.0. I am about to give up and ask the people sending stuff to send it in another format. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 22 February 2007 22:44, Robert Lewis wrote:
I am about to give up and ask the people sending stuff to send it in another format. Yes.
However, if all they have is MSworks, have them save the output to an ascii text file. Then, offer to help them install Suse and introduce them to Openoffice. -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 20:44 -0800, Robert Lewis wrote:
After extensive google searches and reading I have not been able to read the file under Linux. I tried AbiWord but that didn't do it either. I tried the latest OpenOffice and that gave the same error.
The version of MSWorks that they are using is Version 8.0.
I am about to give up and ask the people sending stuff to send it in another format.
Politely explain that MS-Works is often not even compatible with other versions of MS-Works, and to please send stuff in .rtf (Rich Text Format). I've found this to be rather effective in the past. Then I tell them that they can get OOo for Windows, for free, and it is what I'm using on my systems, including laptops for high-school and University. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Robert Lewis wrote:
After extensive google searches and reading I have not been able to read the file under Linux. I tried AbiWord but that didn't do it either. I tried the latest OpenOffice and that gave the same error.
The version of MSWorks that they are using is Version 8.0.
I am about to give up and ask the people sending stuff to send it in another format.
Suitable choices would be RTF and DOC formats. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Robert Lewis wrote:
Any recommendations for how to view a *WPS *MS Works Text Document on Linux. Someone is sending these to my wife who only uses Linux.
Openoffice doesn't want to do this. At least the version that came with 10.2.
Cheers, Bob
Hi, any version of works, that I saw (not many) could "save as" ms-word (.doc) format. This you can (usually) very easy open with OOorg. regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I appreciate all your suggestions. I also agree with the last three or four. The problem is the lady sending this is getting quite old and I spent a bit of time already yesterday trying to get her to change the extension type when she saves the file and sends it in email. I don't think I would succeed in getting her over to OO and clearly I already spend way to much time helping older people with their computers to add another dependent to my list ;-) For now, I will try to get her to send in a different file type that I can read or ship the file over to an XP machine and convert it myself and send it back to my wife. Cheers, Bob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 23 February 2007 08:15:18 am Robert Lewis wrote:
For now, I will try to get her to send in a different file type that I can read or ship the file over to an XP machine and convert it myself and send it back to my wife.
Well, good luck! My wife works part-time as a university instructor. She will occasionally get MS Works files and cannot even open them in Word 2003. Works is an abomination and should have been canned years ago - along with Gnome. :P In any case, if I can get my 64 year old mother to successfully switch to SUSE, anyone can. -- kai Free Compean and Ramos http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/46 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 23 February 2007 11:23, Kai Ponte wrote:
Works is an abomination and should have been canned years ago - along with Gnome. :P ... along with windoze... :)
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M Harris schrieb:
On Friday 23 February 2007 11:23, Kai Ponte wrote:
Works is an abomination and should have been canned years ago - along with Gnome. :P ... along with windoze... :)
Well, wiondowze suits some gaming needs but gnome? Same as Works. None. lol thx Jan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jan Tiggy wrote:
M Harris schrieb:
On Friday 23 February 2007 11:23, Kai Ponte wrote:
Works is an abomination and should have been canned years ago - along with Gnome. :P
... along with windoze... :)
Well, wiondowze suits some gaming needs but gnome? Same as Works. None. lol
thx Jan
And of course, Linus Torvalds loves Gnome! ;-) http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8745257437.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
Works is an abomination and should have been canned years ago - along with Gnome. :P
Tsk... KDE bigots :-) Don't forget that KDE wasn't GPL for a long time (long enough, anyway). If they hadn't done that, GNOME wouldn't exist. And I'm not sure Trolltech can be trusted in the absence of GNOME... Qtopia desktop was not GPL'd for some time: http://qtopia.net/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=62&forum=2 AFAICS, not until GPE had caught up sufficiently to be a threat. All IMPersonalO, of course. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 01 March 2007 06:28:01 am Russell Jones wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
Works is an abomination and should have been canned years ago - along with Gnome. :P
Tsk... KDE bigots :-) Don't forget that KDE wasn't GPL for a long time (long enough, anyway). If they hadn't done that, GNOME wouldn't exist. And I'm not sure Trolltech can be trusted in the absence of GNOME... Qtopia desktop was not GPL'd for some time: http://qtopia.net/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=62&forum=2 AFAICS, not until GPE had caught up sufficiently to be a threat. All IMPersonalO, of course.
/me stands up Hi. My name is Kai. I'm a KDE bigot. /me sits down Seriously, I remember the bogus arguments going on back in the late '90s about the whole Qt licensing. I remember thinking that the Gnome group were a bunch of whining children about the whole idea and that creating a second desktop would do more overall harm than good. I still stand by my opinion from then. I don't at all mind Enlightenment, IceWM and the other "lightweight" desktops, but the Gnome team just doesn't give me the warm fuzzies and I feel they are out to do no good. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com closing the doors that surround me so no one will ever penetrate complete my retreat just to wait for the day that never comes so i will laugh alone -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 01 March 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
I remember thinking that the Gnome group were a bunch of whining children about the whole idea and that creating a second desktop would do more overall harm than good.
Rather than concentrate on writing a replacement for the one part of KDE that wasn't totally free (QT) they set out to rebuild the world but without a blueprint or even a coherent plan. The internals of Gnome are a mess.
I still stand by my opinion from then. I don't at all mind Enlightenment, IceWM and the other "lightweight" desktops, Agreed. KDE is often called bloated, but a GNOME is actually worse after a couple applications are loaded.
-- _____________________________________ John Andersen
John Andersen wrote:
On Thursday 01 March 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
I remember thinking that the Gnome group were a bunch of whining children about the whole idea and that creating a second desktop would do more overall harm than good.
Rather than concentrate on writing a replacement for the one part of KDE that wasn't totally free (QT) they set out to rebuild the world but without a blueprint or even a coherent plan. The internals of Gnome are a mess.
So you don't disagree with their objectives or objections, just the way they went about it? What do you make of these relatively fresh objections to Trolltech's behaviour? They do have a bit of a flame-grilled flavour, I must admit. http://lists.trolltech.com/qtopia-interest/2006-06/msg00003.html http://lists.trolltech.com/qtopia-interest/2006-05/msg00006.html Context: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpieWithAngstrom http://qtopia.net/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=100&forum=1
I still stand by my opinion from then. I don't at all mind Enlightenment, IceWM and the other "lightweight" desktops,
Agreed. KDE is often called bloated, but a GNOME is actually worse after a couple applications are loaded.
That may be so, but it's somewhat beside the point I was making :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 05 March 2007, Russell Jones wrote:
John Andersen wrote:
On Thursday 01 March 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
I remember thinking that the Gnome group were a bunch of whining children about the whole idea and that creating a second desktop would do more overall harm than good.
Rather than concentrate on writing a replacement for the one part of KDE that wasn't totally free (QT) they set out to rebuild the world but without a blueprint or even a coherent plan. The internals of Gnome are a mess.
So you don't disagree with their objectives or objections, just the way they went about it?
I'm never opposed to anyone spending their time on alternative solutions if that is what they wanted to do. I would have expected something BETTER THAN what whey were trying to replace to come out of such a project, but in every case, with the possible exception of Evolution, everything out of the Gnome project is patently and obviously inferior to KDE in my opinion. Was it devicive? Probably, but only due to the way they went about it. They never were about creating anything better, more imaginative or extensible. It was always ONLY about snubbing Trolltech. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Monday 05 March 2007 08:38:44 pm John Andersen wrote:
On Monday 05 March 2007, Russell Jones wrote:
John Andersen wrote:
On Thursday 01 March 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
I remember thinking that the Gnome group were a bunch of whining children about the whole idea and that creating a second desktop would do more overall harm than good.
Rather than concentrate on writing a replacement for the one part of KDE that wasn't totally free (QT) they set out to rebuild the world but without a blueprint or even a coherent plan. The internals of Gnome are a mess.
So you don't disagree with their objectives or objections, just the way they went about it?
I'm never opposed to anyone spending their time on alternative solutions if that is what they wanted to do.
Agreed. We'd still be living in caves and running from saber-toothed tigers if we didn't pursue a better option.
I would have expected something BETTER THAN what whey were trying to replace to come out of such a project, but in every case, with the possible exception of Evolution, everything out of the Gnome project is patently and obviously inferior to KDE in my opinion.
Was it devicive? Probably, but only due to the way they went about it. They never were about creating anything better, more imaginative or extensible. It was always ONLY about snubbing Trolltech.
John, I think you've hit the proverbial nail on the head. Though I see problems with Trolltech - in terms of their direction and them being a for-profit company behind an OSS model desktop - I always felt the Gnome camp went about their business for the sole reason of "snubbing Trolltech" as you said. We should have all rallied behind Trolltech to encourage them to adopt an OSS model earlier. Heck, I'll stand 100% behind those who use KDE, Enlightenment, IceWM, Blackbox or whatever. For those who use Gnome, I just shake my head in frustration. I believe that Linux - as a desktop alternative to Wintendo or Mac - would have been much farther along if Gnome hadn't gotten in the way and sucked resources from KDE. In fact, I see the purchase (or whatever) of Gnome by Novell as a bad thing (tm) due to the loss of good faith and people working to better KDE. </soapbox> -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com closing the doors that surround me so no one will ever penetrate complete my retreat just to wait for the day that never comes so i will laugh alone -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Monday 05 March 2007 08:38:44 pm John Andersen wrote:
On Monday 05 March 2007, Russell Jones wrote:
John Andersen wrote:
On Thursday 01 March 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
went about their business for the sole reason of "snubbing Trolltech" as you said. We should have all rallied behind Trolltech to encourage them to adopt an OSS model earlier.
Personally, I think that's rather naive. I don't think one has to demonstrate superiority to be pursuing the morally correct course. It was far from clear that Trolltech would ever GPL their software. It is quite possible that they are perfectly trustworthy and always have been, but for similar reasons that I favour two parties (at least) over one and a full market-place over a monopoly, I think that it was useful to have two similar widget systems. I'm not sure that's the case (on the Desktop) any more. Trolltech's tardiness and apparent heel-dragging with Qtopia 4.x which caused Opie 2 to be held up makes me think otherwise of PDAs, and does make me suspicious of what they might try to pull in future if they take too much of the market. Tell you what: if there's a KDE theme that looks like GNOME, let me know and I'll give it a go :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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