RE: [SLE] Java Development on SuSE 7.0
Well, Perhaps, I missed out on something with borland but, I found my experience with their product to be one of the worst I've ever had in life. It sold for close to $90 (more than my last 5 linux systems) I could not even use the product until I filled out a questionnaire on-line (which included ALL my personal information) and then registered the product; at which point, I received my "activation key" (those word sound familiar?) for the product. The product really took over my system. And in the end I was unable to get a simple applet to work using awt components with a gridbag layout because of the code it kept placing in my source files. Had lots of trouble removing it as well. I don't consider myself programmer of the century but I thought I wasn't asking to much of the product. All in all it was a extremely bad experience. Dare I say much worse than any MS product I've had to deal with in the past. I'm very disappointed in Borland at the moment. They have surpassed MS in the commercial game in my opinion. If I have given the product a hasty judgment please let me know. Thanks, Robert Napolitano
At 08:32 PM 1/30/2001 -0500, napi5 wrote:
Well,
Perhaps, I missed out on something with borland but, I found my experience with their product to be one of the worst I've ever had in life.
Wich version ? I loaded jbuilder 4 on windows , and yess it has those dasterly activation codes. Make sure you keep a copy of them with your cd set. I was very hapy to see that the box had both windows , solaris and linux versions inn the same box. All with diffrent codes. Bummer on the codes , but I do see there logic in using them to control copeing.So if you wnat to use there product , got use it on there terms for now. I dont remeber the questionar thing , all I do is type in n/a as in not avialable ect. It is resouce hungry on my amdk6 350 with 256 meg of ram. It is slow to start up. I havent gottten beyond that so far. If you like to write your own code , the jbuilder is the wrong ide for you. TStick with the java software kit and look for a simplistic ide and java editor. jbuilder and ibms visualage are rad tools. If you want to do the devolopment visualy by dropping components on the screen and tying them all together , then this tool is right for you. Borland has a great reputation for its two was intergration between the visual interface and the editing/coding writing interface.
It sold for close to $90 (more than my last 5 linux systems) I could not even use the product until I filled out a questionnaire on-line (which included ALL my personal information) and then registered the product; at which point, I received my "activation key" (those word sound familiar?) for the product. The product really took over my system. And in the end I was unable to get a simple applet to work using awt components with a gridbag layout because of the code it kept placing in my source files. Had lots of trouble removing it as well. I don't consider myself programmer of the century but I thought I wasn't asking to much of the product.
For a newbie , I would sugest starting witha good java 2 book that uses the java SDK and first learn the basics of the language. Then you will have a better idea of what you are looking at with the rad tools that like to write code. Java2 a beginers guid y Schildt and java2 weekend crash course by Sanchez and Canton.
All in all it was a extremely bad experience. Dare I say much worse than any MS product I've had to deal with in the past. I'm very disappointed in Borland at the moment. They have surpassed MS in the commercial game in my opinion.
If I have given the product a hasty judgment please let me know.
Thanks,
Robert Napolitano
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I agree on much of what you say Robert, but I still think JBuilder is cool.....:-) The worst experience of your life? Did you never run Windows 98 First Edition? THAT was a challenge! Cheers, ei On Wednesday 31 January 2001 02:32, napi5 wrote:
Well,
Perhaps, I missed out on something with borland but, I found my experience with their product to be one of the worst I've ever had in life.
It sold for close to $90 (more than my last 5 linux systems) I could not even use the product until I filled out a questionnaire on-line (which included ALL my personal information) and then registered the product; at which point, I received my "activation key" (those word sound familiar?) for the product. The product really took over my system. And in the end I was unable to get a simple applet to work using awt components with a gridbag layout because of the code it kept placing in my source files. Had lots of trouble removing it as well.
I don't consider myself programmer of the century but I thought I wasn't asking to much of the product.
All in all it was a extremely bad experience. Dare I say much worse than any MS product I've had to deal with in the past. I'm very disappointed in Borland at the moment. They have surpassed MS in the commercial game in my opinion.
If I have given the product a hasty judgment please let me know.
Thanks,
Robert Napolitano
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At 01:09 PM 1/31/2001 +0100, EagleIce wrote:
I agree on much of what you say Robert, but I still think JBuilder is cool.....:-) The worst experience of your life? Did you never run Windows 98 First Edition? THAT was a challenge!
win 95 Second edition had me upset with M$ as I needed fat32 , Win 98 1st ed / 2nd ed clinched the move to linux. Thank god for linux , Rock solid , where as MS kept biting the dust when I was out of town , or just changed all the plug and play setting for who knows why. Thanks Bill for making the move to linux jusifiable.
Cheers,
ei
On Wednesday 31 January 2001 02:32, napi5 wrote:
Well,
Perhaps, I missed out on something with borland but, I found my experience with their product to be one of the worst I've ever had in life.
It sold for close to $90 (more than my last 5 linux systems) I could not even use the product until I filled out a questionnaire on-line (which included ALL my personal information) and then registered the product; at which point, I received my "activation key" (those word sound familiar?) for the product. The product really took over my system. And in the end I was unable to get a simple applet to work using awt components with a gridbag layout because of the code it kept placing in my source files. Had lots of trouble removing it as well.
I don't consider myself programmer of the century but I thought I wasn't asking to much of the product.
All in all it was a extremely bad experience. Dare I say much worse than any MS product I've had to deal with in the past. I'm very disappointed in Borland at the moment. They have surpassed MS in the commercial game in my opinion.
If I have given the product a hasty judgment please let me know.
Thanks,
Robert Napolitano
-- @~~ EagleIce ~ gnu4u@linux.nu ~~@ @~~ Running GNU/Linux & KDE ~~@
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