-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm sure that time ago I used a font named "Times" in OpenOffice, that was rendered as Times-Roman in PDF documents (Acrobat reader), type 1 (perhaps (Adobe Serif MM), using an internal fontset. It is not "Times New Roman", of that I'm sure, that's a windows font and it is embedded in pdfs, not what I want. Somebody knows what package contains that font for SuSE 10.2? - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGDbystTMYHG2NR9URAiofAJ9YYm7EJgtDV8V9aJzeYDN3WRc80ACgicyL XCUaXIO4IEiPiI6Knu4R4bE= =YOl+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 03:43 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I'm sure that time ago I used a font named "Times" in OpenOffice, that was rendered as Times-Roman in PDF documents (Acrobat reader), type 1 (perhaps (Adobe Serif MM), using an internal fontset.
It is not "Times New Roman", of that I'm sure, that's a windows font and it is embedded in pdfs, not what I want.
Somebody knows what package contains that font for SuSE 10.2?
I suspect the font was URW Nimbus Roman Number 9 L Regular, which is the URW font includeded in ghostscript that emulates Times. Times is included in Macs and is different from the Times New Roman that comes with Windows, but I don't think it's ever been bundled as standard with SuSE. If you have a document with the font set to Times, OO will render it with URW Nimbus Roman Number 9 L Regular. In any case, Nimbus Roman is sufficiently close to Times that it's hard to tell the difference. -- JDL -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-03-31 at 06:42 +0100, John D Lamb wrote:
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 03:43 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I'm sure that time ago I used a font named "Times" in OpenOffice, that was rendered as Times-Roman in PDF documents (Acrobat reader), type 1 (perhaps (Adobe Serif MM), using an internal fontset.
It is not "Times New Roman", of that I'm sure, that's a windows font and it is embedded in pdfs, not what I want.
Somebody knows what package contains that font for SuSE 10.2?
I suspect the font was URW Nimbus Roman Number 9 L Regular, which is the URW font includeded in ghostscript that emulates Times.
That's the substitution font OOo uses in 10.2, yes. But not the one I want, read on.
Times is included in Macs and is different from the Times New Roman that comes with Windows, but I don't think it's ever been bundled as standard with SuSE.
If you have a document with the font set to Times, OO will render it with URW Nimbus Roman Number 9 L Regular. In any case, Nimbus Roman is sufficiently close to Times that it's hard to tell the difference.
Yes, in suse 10.2, but not in 10.1. I tried yesterday creating a document in OOo with a document using "Times", that does not exist in the system. in 10.1 this converts to a very small pdf file, about 2 KB, using the internal font "Times-Roman": cer@nimrodel:~/Documents/OO/test times font> pdffonts en\ 10.1/Prueba.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - ------------------------------------ ------------ --- --- --- --------- Times-Roman Type 1 no no no 5 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ^^ cer@nimrodel:~/Documents/OO/test times font> pdfinfo en\ 10.1/Prueba.pdf Creator: Writer Producer: OpenOffice.org 2.0 CreationDate: Fri 30 Mar 2007 10:00:36 PM CEST Tagged: no Pages: 1 Encrypted: no Page size: 612 x 792 pts (letter) File size: 2805 bytes <=========== Optimized: no PDF version: 1.4 However, the same document converted to pdf in suse 10.2 is very different: cer@nimrodel:~/Documents/OO/test times font> pdffonts en\ 10.2/Prueba.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - ------------------------------------ ------------ --- --- --- --------- NimbusRomNo9L-Regu Type 1 yes no yes 9 0 NimbusRomNo9L-Regu Type 1 yes no yes 12 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ^^ cer@nimrodel:~/Documents/OO/test times font> pdfinfo en\ 10.2/Prueba.pdf Creator: Writer Producer: OpenOffice.org 2.1 CreationDate: Sat 31 Mar 2007 11:02:14 AM CEST Tagged: no Pages: 1 Encrypted: no Page size: 612 x 792 pts (letter) File size: 117753 bytes <=========== Optimized: no PDF version: 1.4 It is the same file. However, "Times" is converted to "Times-Roman" in the pdf in 10.1, and to "NimbusRomNo9L-Regu" in 10.2 - but as this font is not the exact one that the readers knows about, the definition of the font is inserted or embedded into the pdf file, increasing the filesize to over a hundred kilobytes. Furthermore: a document in 10.2 using "Times" prints with a wider line spacing than in 10.1, making some single page documents to overflow to the next page - I tried printing on both versions and looked at the printed pages very carefully. You understand my problem? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGDiletTMYHG2NR9URAqpSAJ4stjZsIhA3Y3sfKTPWucGiSJtergCeMEj1 JThVcA9vhc9iZJdHEK9jS7A= =UzkO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 11:26 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
It is the same file. However, "Times" is converted to "Times-Roman" in the pdf in 10.1, and to "NimbusRomNo9L-Regu" in 10.2 - but as this font is not the exact one that the readers knows about, the definition of the font is inserted or embedded into the pdf file, increasing the filesize to over a hundred kilobytes.
You understand my problem?
Yes, but I'm not sure there's an easy solution. My 10.1 converts Times-Roman to NimbusRomNo9L-Regu so I guess you really must have or have had Times installed in the 10.1 system. Have you looked in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/, especially under the Type1 directory? If you don't have it there, you could always purchase a copy of Times from myfonts.com or linotype.com The opentype version is best but won't work with OpenOffice on 10.1. -- JDL -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-04-01 at 20:18 +0100, John D Lamb wrote:
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 11:26 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
It is the same file. However, "Times" is converted to "Times-Roman" in the pdf in 10.1, and to "NimbusRomNo9L-Regu" in 10.2 - but as this font is not the exact one that the readers knows about, the definition of the font is inserted or embedded into the pdf file, increasing the filesize to over a hundred kilobytes.
You understand my problem?
Yes, but I'm not sure there's an easy solution. My 10.1 converts Times-Roman to NimbusRomNo9L-Regu so I guess you really must have or have had Times installed in the 10.1 system.
Have you looked in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/, especially under the Type1 directory?
If you don't have it there, you could always purchase a copy of Times from myfonts.com or linotype.com The opentype version is best but won't work with OpenOffice on 10.1.
I have done some discoveries with help from the Spanish list and a many hours testing. First, OOo does use a plain "Times" font when under compatibility options (writer section) I click on "use printer metrics" or something like that. It is classified as a "printer font". In SuSE 10.1 this is converted in the PDF file to the internal "Times-Roman", not embedded. However, in 10.2 this fails. I think this is a bug of OO: I will report this in more detail tomorrow, time permitting. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGEEbetTMYHG2NR9URApPXAJ9Ys6W/Km46tF3voKU4HRZ+UL8K+gCeJpcu kBaXJVZkA10VE9nRtjO2l/k= =KWq3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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