I installed Ogle on my 8.1pro during the Lunar New Year holiday, tried KDE 3.1 too, it's nice :) I reinstalled to the stock KDE as I found that many apps are not avbl in 3.1 yet. :( I have quite a hard time with 8.1pro as it seem many broken issues here and there :(, though finally get it work to some extend, I 'm facing problem on using Ogle to play DVD. My hardware: P3-866 with 512 mb and Pioneer DVD. Similar problem in 8.0pro too, the playback is NOT smooth :(, the same hardware done well in windoz while playing DVD, so is there anything I can do to improve the performance? Thank you and wishing all Chinese a happy goat year. Dennis
On Monday 03 February 2003 11:52, Dennis wrote:
I installed Ogle on my 8.1pro during the Lunar New Year holiday, tried KDE 3.1 too, it's nice :)
I reinstalled to the stock KDE as I found that many apps are not avbl in 3.1 yet. :(
I have quite a hard time with 8.1pro as it seem many broken issues here and there :(, though finally get it work to some extend, I 'm facing problem on using Ogle to play DVD.
My hardware:
P3-866 with 512 mb and Pioneer DVD. Similar problem in 8.0pro too, the playback is NOT smooth :(, the same hardware done well in windoz while playing DVD, so is there anything I can do to improve the performance?
How "unsmooth" is it? A little jumpy or skips? Have you tried playing the same DVD in, e.g., MPlayer? What is your video card? I ask because you want to make sure the XV extension is available on your machine: 'xdpyinfo | grep XV'.
When I try 'xdpyinfo | grep XV' it gives: XVideo. The speed of playback is jumpy and the feel is like no enough CPU power? It go and stop for about 1/4 sec and continue (repeating in this way). I am using nvidia GF256/32mb with the updated nvidia kernel and driver installed. I am having problem on sound when using mplayer for DVD, VCD sound is ok. DVD on mplayer have the same problem, any way to help? Thank you. Dennis Karol Pietrzak wrote:
On Monday 03 February 2003 11:52, Dennis wrote:
I installed Ogle on my 8.1pro during the Lunar New Year holiday, tried KDE 3.1 too, it's nice :)
I reinstalled to the stock KDE as I found that many apps are not avbl in 3.1 yet. :(
I have quite a hard time with 8.1pro as it seem many broken issues here and there :(, though finally get it work to some extend, I 'm facing problem on using Ogle to play DVD.
My hardware:
P3-866 with 512 mb and Pioneer DVD. Similar problem in 8.0pro too, the playback is NOT smooth :(, the same hardware done well in windoz while playing DVD, so is there anything I can do to improve the performance?
How "unsmooth" is it? A little jumpy or skips? Have you tried playing the same DVD in, e.g., MPlayer?
What is your video card? I ask because you want to make sure the XV extension is available on your machine: 'xdpyinfo | grep XV'.
On Monday 03 February 2003 14:25, Dennis wrote:
When I try 'xdpyinfo | grep XV' it gives: XVideo.
That's good. That means the XV extension is loaded on your machine.
The speed of playback is jumpy and the feel is like no enough CPU power? It go and stop for about 1/4 sec and continue (repeating in this way). I am using nvidia GF256/32mb with the updated nvidia kernel and driver installed.
Do you have DMA enabled on your DVD drive? [This is the most common cause of skippy DVD playback.] e.g., # cat /var/log/boot.msg | grep -i hdc <4> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xe008-0xe00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio <4>hdc: Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPIModel DVD-106S 012, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive # hdparm -d /dev/hdc /dev/hdc: using_dma = 1 (on) #
I am having problem on sound when using mplayer for DVD, VCD sound is ok. DVD on mplayer have the same problem, any way to help?
Could you give more substantial details, like what -kind- of sound problems on DVDs in mplayer? What audio output driver are you using? Run "mplayer -dvd" from the console and watch the messages... e.g., [....snip other mplayer output....] AO: [alsa9] 44100Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian) (2 bps)
--- Dennis
I 'm facing problem on using Ogle to play DVD.
playback is NOT smooth
Do you have an IDE (as opposed to a SCSI) DVD; do you have DMA enabled?. If you do have an IDE DVD, you can check in yast --> Hardware --> IDE DMA setup... if you see it there, you cna enable DMA... However, sometimes like in my case it is not there; I enable it from the command line like this (as root): hdparm -k1c1 /dev/hdc Note that my DVD is the primary unit in the second IDE (therefore is hdc); hda is the primary unit in the first IDE (usually the HDD), hdb is the slave in that first IDE unit (it usually is a second HDD or sometimes a CD), hdd would be the slave in the second IDE... Try to play your DVD... if this works, let me know and I'll explain to you how to make this permanent. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
My DVD drive is on secondary slave (hdd) but it is using SCSI emulation as the secondary primary is connected to my Plextor burner. :( Tried to use hdd but unable to make it work under Ogle or mplayer, I'm wondering on two possibilities: 1. remove SCSI emulation on the DVD drive, but dunno howto? :( 2. find a way to overcome the jumpy problem, and I'm here to seek for help. :) The same SCSI emulation was used in 8.0pro (same PC) before and the jumpy issue was not that serious (still jumpy), but now it is very serious. :( Any help please, thank you. Dennis Marino Fernandez wrote:
--- Dennis
wrote: I 'm facing problem on using Ogle to play DVD.
playback is NOT smooth
Do you have an IDE (as opposed to a SCSI) DVD; do you have DMA enabled?.
If you do have an IDE DVD, you can check in yast --> Hardware --> IDE DMA setup... if you see it there, you cna enable DMA...
However, sometimes like in my case it is not there; I enable it from the command line like this (as root): hdparm -k1c1 /dev/hdc
Note that my DVD is the primary unit in the second IDE (therefore is hdc); hda is the primary unit in the first IDE (usually the HDD), hdb is the slave in that first IDE unit (it usually is a second HDD or sometimes a CD), hdd would be the slave in the second IDE...
Try to play your DVD... if this works, let me know and I'll explain to you how to make this permanent.
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On 02/04/2003 03:32 AM, Dennis wrote:
My DVD drive is on secondary slave (hdd) but it is using SCSI emulation as the secondary primary is connected to my Plextor burner. :(
Tried to use hdd but unable to make it work under Ogle or mplayer, I'm wondering on two possibilities:
1. remove SCSI emulation on the DVD drive, but dunno howto? :(
Try the boot paramenter, hdd=ide-cd. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am.
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On 02/04/2003 03:32 AM, Dennis wrote:
My DVD drive is on secondary slave (hdd) but it is using SCSI emulation as the secondary primary is connected to
Try the boot paramenter, hdd=ide-cd.
SCSI emulation does not interfere with you enabling DMA; my DVD/CDRW drive has scsi emulation, it is seen by linux as /dev/sr0, and still I can enable DMA with hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc... However, if yours is a DVD-ROM or a DVD-rom/CD-rom (i.e. a read only device)... if it is not a burner, you do not need SCSI emulation... SCSI emlation is needed only tu burn CDs... if this is your case it makes sense disabling SCSI emulation... but if you disable scsi emu and you have a burner... well, then you won't be able to burn cd's. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Marino Fernandez wrote:
--- "Joe Morris (NTM)"
wrote: On 02/04/2003 03:32 AM, Dennis wrote:
My DVD drive is on secondary slave (hdd) but it is
using SCSI
emulation as the secondary primary is connected to
Try the boot paramenter, hdd=ide-cd.
SCSI emulation does not interfere with you enabling DMA; my DVD/CDRW drive has scsi emulation, it is seen by linux as /dev/sr0, and still I can enable DMA with hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc...
However, if yours is a DVD-ROM or a DVD-rom/CD-rom (i.e. a read only device)... if it is not a burner, you do not need SCSI emulation... SCSI emlation is needed only tu burn CDs... if this is your case it makes sense disabling SCSI emulation... but if you disable scsi emu and you have a burner... well, then you won't be able to burn cd's.
My DVD rom is not a burner, just a normal DVD/CD-Rom, so it is okay to go without SCSI emulation. I will check the DMA setting but I remember it has been turn 'ON' ? the issue here is 8.1 pro emulate both drives for me during setup and this may be the cause of the problem as I cannot access to the DVD drive initially and need to relink to sr1 for it to work, any concern here? Thank you for any help Dennis
--- Dennis
I will check the DMA setting but I remember it has been turn 'ON' ?
Were did you checked that... in Yast?... I will still try to enable it with hdparm... and if you do this, and playback is still skippy, then maybe you have another issue.... Have you tried that... does that work? Regardless of that, I think it will be worth while disabling scsi emul in that DVD since you do not need it; not sure how to do that, although I seem to remember an entry in grub at bootup ordering your system this to be so (hdc=ide-scsi); change that to what somebody suggested how in a previuos posting.
issue here is 8.1 pro emulate both drives for me during setup and this may be the cause of the problem as I cannot access to the DVD drive initially and need to relink to sr1 for it to work, any concern here?
do you mean, you need to create a link from /dev/sr1 to /dev/dvd... no problem there, that seems to be a standard issue with linux... somebody decided that is funny to figure this out, instead to just have the installer taking care of that. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
I will have to check the DMA issue, let you know tonight when at home. :) 8.0pro using Lilo, so no issue to me, can enable or disable anything without problem, but I am not familar with Grub in 8.1pro and still trying to figure this out. I created the link /dev/sr1 -> /media/dvd, is this correctly done? with this link, my KsCD and mplayer both work with my DVD drive without problem, and Ogle also working but jumpy :( Any suggestion welcome with thanks. Dennis Marino Fernandez wrote:
--- Dennis
wrote: I will check the DMA setting but I remember it has been turn 'ON' ?
Were did you checked that... in Yast?... I will still try to enable it with hdparm... and if you do this, and playback is still skippy, then maybe you have another issue.... Have you tried that... does that work?
Regardless of that, I think it will be worth while disabling scsi emul in that DVD since you do not need it; not sure how to do that, although I seem to remember an entry in grub at bootup ordering your system this to be so (hdc=ide-scsi); change that to what somebody suggested how in a previuos posting.
issue here is 8.1 pro emulate both drives for me during setup and this may be the cause of the problem as I cannot access to the DVD drive initially and need to relink to sr1 for it to work, any concern here?
do you mean, you need to create a link from /dev/sr1 to /dev/dvd... no problem there, that seems to be a standard issue with linux... somebody decided that is funny to figure this out, instead to just have the installer taking care of that.
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I created the link /dev/sr1 -> /media/dvd, is this correctly done? Not sure... If Ogle finds your DVD there is no complainig... however I linked /dev/sr0 (my dvd) to /dev/dvd... does it make a diff... not sure... but my laptop plays dvd just fine.... I would try: rm /media/dvd ln /dev/sr0 /dev/dvd
However I am putting my money on DMA not being enabled... you'll let us know... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Hi Dennis,
I had exactly the same problem with you. I agree Marino that it's about
DMA. But i won't agree you've no need to have the dvd-rom scsi-emulated.
You'll need emulation on both if you use cdrdao-based program like K3B to
clone cd's.
I solved my problems in 3 steps:
-I appended hdc=ide-cd while booting with grub.
-When opened, i used the related Yast section to enable DMA for my dvd
drive.
-I rebooted. (This time without the ide-cd setting)
And my dvd drive is now both dma & ide-scsi.
And about the links :
There may be links like this : /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdrecorder, /dev/dvd,
/dvd, /cdrom, /cdrecorder.
You have to test them with an eject statement. If anyone is wrong, rm it &
recreate a link from /dev/sr0 or /dev/sr1.
But i guess you don't need to remove /media/whatever, for it's a mount
point and not a link.
Since i'm also a newbie, i may be wrong but i'm sure someone will warn you
if i am..
Marino Fernandez
I created the link /dev/sr1 -> /media/dvd, is this correctly done? Not sure... If Ogle finds your DVD there is no complainig... however I linked /dev/sr0 (my dvd) to /dev/dvd... does it make a diff... not sure... but my laptop plays dvd just fine.... I would try: rm /media/dvd ln /dev/sr0 /dev/dvd
However I am putting my money on DMA not being enabled... you'll let us know... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
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You'll need emulation on both if you use cdrdao-based program like K3B to clone cd's.
Oeren, with all due respect.... why does he needs scsi emul?.... if he does not have a burner, how can he use k3b... since is a program tu burn cds? Are you saying that if you clone a cd from, lets say hdc to hdd, you need scsi emul in both, even if, say hdc is a cd-rom (read only)? PS I am asking because I am also newby... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Hi again,
Dennis has mentioned that he had a Plextor burner before. And yes, if you
use K3B's 'Copy Cd' tool, ide devices are not listed in 'read from' box..
KreateCd is also the same, i remember. I heard new version of xcdroast can
read from ide devices, but it's still suggested to use emulation for both.
I think this is why yast emulated both devices when i first installed suse
8.1.
Regards,
Marino Fernandez
You'll need emulation on both if you use cdrdao-based program like K3B to clone cd's.
Oeren, with all due respect.... why does he needs scsi emul?.... if he does not have a burner, how can he use k3b... since is a program tu burn cds? Are you saying that if you clone a cd from, lets say hdc to hdd, you need scsi emul in both, even if, say hdc is a cd-rom (read only)? PS I am asking because I am also newby... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Cool down man, I am a 3 years old newbie (time long but still learning :) ) we will help each other along the way. I have a burner as mentioned in my early email (Plextor CDRW) connected to the same connector as master and the DVD as slave, this is why 8.1pro turn on the SCSI emulation while setup, but I do think the DVD is not necessary to be SCSI emulated? Anyway, my K3b cannot see the DVD drive while copying :( so I use one drive (CDRW) to read and write, so far so good, of course it will be better if I can use the DVD to read instead :) I am about to go home in a hour's time and should try to figure out more tonight, will let you all know the outcome :) Thank you and take care man Dennis Marino Fernandez wrote:
--- oeren@ykb.com wrote:
You'll need emulation on both if you use cdrdao-based program like K3B to clone cd's.
Oeren, with all due respect.... why does he needs scsi emul?.... if he does not have a burner, how can he use k3b... since is a program tu burn cds?
Are you saying that if you clone a cd from, lets say hdc to hdd, you need scsi emul in both, even if, say hdc is a cd-rom (read only)?
PS I am asking because I am also newby...
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On 02/04/2003 02:34 PM, Dennis wrote:
8.0pro using Lilo, so no issue to me, can enable or disable anything without problem, but I am not familar with Grub in 8.1pro and still trying to figure this out.
I created the link /dev/sr1 -> /media/dvd, is this correctly done? with this link, my KsCD and mplayer both work with my DVD drive without problem, and Ogle also working but jumpy :(
No. /media/dvd is a directory that serves, as set up in fstab, as the mount point for mounting your dvd DEVICE. It should be linked to /dev/dvd, which is a link to a device. In your case, ln -s /dev/sr1 /dev/dvd for a ide-scsi device, if you add hdd=ide-cd to your lilo append line (or just test at the lilo prompt), you will need to link hdc, i.e. ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/dvd. HTH. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am.
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Dennis
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Joe Morris (NTM)
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