The 15.6 release candidate is now fixed, so I am thinking of doing a system upgrade now to resolve two issues with 15.5, one long-standing, the other occurring within the last week. Are there any issues which might make that a bad idea? If not, will another full update be needed when the final version is released on June 12?
Op vrijdag 3 mei 2024 23:57:27 CEST schreef Darryl Gregorash:
The 15.6 release candidate is now fixed, so I am thinking of doing a system upgrade now to resolve two issues with 15.5, one long-standing, the other occurring within the last week.
Are there any issues which might make that a bad idea? If not, will another full update be needed when the final version is released on June 12? I already tested in an up-to-date VM and the dup to 15.6 RC ran without issues. Will dup again when 15.6 final is out.
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team openSUSE Mods Team
On 2024-05-03 16:02, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Op vrijdag 3 mei 2024 23:57:27 CEST schreef Darryl Gregorash:
The 15.6 release candidate is now fixed, so I am thinking of doing a system upgrade now to resolve two issues with 15.5, one long-standing, the other occurring within the last week.
Are there any issues which might make that a bad idea? If not, will another full update be needed when the final version is released on June 12? I already tested in an up-to-date VM and the dup to 15.6 RC ran without issues. Will dup again when 15.6 final is out.
Thanks. Just one more question: why are you reading email at 2300 on a Friday night? :D
Op zaterdag 4 mei 2024 00:20:56 CEST schreef Darryl Gregorash:
On 2024-05-03 16:02, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Op vrijdag 3 mei 2024 23:57:27 CEST schreef Darryl Gregorash:
The 15.6 release candidate is now fixed, so I am thinking of doing a system upgrade now to resolve two issues with 15.5, one long-standing, the other occurring within the last week.
Are there any issues which might make that a bad idea? If not, will another full update be needed when the final version is released on June 12?> I already tested in an up-to-date VM and the dup to 15.6 RC ran without issues. Will dup again when 15.6 final is out.
Thanks. Just one more question: why are you reading email at 2300 on a Friday night? :D I live on the web :-D.
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team openSUSE Mods Team
Darryl Gregorash composed on 2024-05-03 15:57 (UTC-0600):
Are there any issues which might make that a bad idea? If not, will another full update be needed when the final version is released on June 12?
All 15 of my 15.6s have no more wrong with any of them than any of my 31 15.5s. 15.5 to 15.6 is a relatively minor change, not unexpected from a release only 12 months newer than the last. Why the kernel stopped at "6.4" rather than advancing to LTS 6.6 is inexplicable, as Leap kernel versions usually are. :p -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 2024-05-03 15:57, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
The 15.6 release candidate is now fixed, so I am thinking of doing a system upgrade now to resolve two issues with 15.5, one long-standing, the other occurring within the last week.
Are there any issues which might make that a bad idea? If not, will another full update be needed when the final version is released on June 12?
OK, this isn't going as expected. I chose (as I usually do) to fetch the DVD .iso image and write it to USB. However, depending on how I try to grab it (left-click vs. middle-click/Save link as...) the .iso either does not exist, or is only 153 bytes, which is curious because, when I load the repo in Firefox, it says it is 4.3 GB. The NET image does, however, appear to be OK.
Op zaterdag 4 mei 2024 02:28:33 CEST schreef Darryl Gregorash:
On 2024-05-03 15:57, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
The 15.6 release candidate is now fixed, so I am thinking of doing a system upgrade now to resolve two issues with 15.5, one long-standing, the other occurring within the last week.
Are there any issues which might make that a bad idea? If not, will another full update be needed when the final version is released on June 12? OK, this isn't going as expected. I chose (as I usually do) to fetch the DVD .iso image and write it to USB. However, depending on how I try to grab it (left-click vs. middle-click/Save link as...) the .iso either does not exist, or is only 153 bytes, which is curious because, when I load the repo in Firefox, it says it is 4.3 GB. The NET image does, however, appear to be OK. A zypper dup --releasever=15.6 should do the job
And yes, it's Saturday 2:35AM and I am still up and running. ;-) -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team openSUSE Mods Team
On 2024-05-03 18:34, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Op zaterdag 4 mei 2024 02:28:33 CEST schreef Darryl Gregorash:
On 2024-05-03 15:57, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
The 15.6 release candidate is now fixed, so I am thinking of doing a system upgrade now to resolve two issues with 15.5, one long-standing, the other occurring within the last week.
Are there any issues which might make that a bad idea? If not, will another full update be needed when the final version is released on June 12? OK, this isn't going as expected. I chose (as I usually do) to fetch the DVD .iso image and write it to USB. However, depending on how I try to grab it (left-click vs. middle-click/Save link as...) the .iso either does not exist, or is only 153 bytes, which is curious because, when I load the repo in Firefox, it says it is 4.3 GB. The NET image does, however, appear to be OK. A zypper dup --releasever=15.6 should do the job
And yes, it's Saturday 2:35AM and I am still up and running. ;-)
I'm aware of this, but I am a suspicious person ;) -- I prefer things where I can see everything that is going on. I think the above problem has more to do with mirrors updating themselves properly: When I download the NET image file, I am informed that it will be coming from muug.ca, the Manitoba Unix Users Group. So, I load that URL into a browser window, went to the 15.6 repo and found a glaring discrepancy -- on download.o.o, I see Build 669 but on muug.ca, they show Build 680.
Op zaterdag 4 mei 2024 02:55:40 CEST schreef Darryl Gregorash:
I'm aware of this, but I am a suspicious person 😉 -- I prefer things where I can see everything that is going on. Me too. Given the fact that you have a mirror issue, maybe this will help: sudo zypper in openSUSE-repos- Leap sudo zypper ref This before doing the command I already showed. It will add the CDN that openSUSE has these days.
Some US and CA people reported real improvement using this service. Since I'm not in CA but in NL I already get one of the fastest mirrors, yet using the CDN is faster in rereshing the repos I feel. -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team openSUSE Mods Team
On 2024-05-03 19:15, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Op zaterdag 4 mei 2024 02:55:40 CEST schreef Darryl Gregorash:
I'm aware of this, but I am a suspicious person 😉 -- I prefer things where I can see everything that is going on. Me too. Given the fact that you have a mirror issue, maybe this will help: sudo zypper in openSUSE-repos- Leap
I've seen this before, but there is no mention of it in the manpage. This is what I see when I run the command:
# zypper in openSUSE-repos- Leap Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'Leap' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'Leap' found. 'openSUSE-repos-' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'openSUSE-repos-' found. Resolving package dependencies... Nothing to do.
Op zaterdag 4 mei 2024 03:33:46 CEST schreef Darryl Gregorash:
On 2024-05-03 19:15, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Op zaterdag 4 mei 2024 02:55:40 CEST schreef Darryl Gregorash:
I'm aware of this, but I am a suspicious person 😉 -- I prefer things where I can see everything that is going on.
Me too. Given the fact that you have a mirror issue, maybe this will help: sudo zypper in openSUSE-repos- Leap
I've seen this before, but there is no mention of it in the manpage.
This is what I see when I run the command:
# zypper in openSUSE-repos- Leap Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'Leap' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'Leap' found. 'openSUSE-repos-' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'openSUSE-repos-' found. Resolving package dependencies... Nothing to do. My bad, the space should not be there, so sudo zypper in openSUSE-repos-Leap
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team openSUSE Mods Team
Knurpht-openSUSE composed on 2024-05-04 03:15 (UTC+0200):
schreef Darryl Gregorash:
I'm aware of this, but I am a suspicious person 😉 -- I prefer things where I can see everything that is going on.
Me too. Given the fact that you have a mirror issue, maybe this will help: sudo zypper in openSUSE-repos- Leap sudo zypper ref This before doing the command I already showed. It will add the CDN that openSUSE has these days.
Some US and CA people reported real improvement using this service. Since I'm not in CA but in NL I already get one of the fastest mirrors, yet using the CDN is faster in rereshing the repos I feel.
North American mirrors for openSUSE are traditionally poor. Only a small handful carry the complete set. The rest only carry various subsets. CDN may have helped, but it didn't fix this basic issue. ATM, d.o.o is still showing 669.1 for x86_64 DVD after multiple refreshes. CDN doesn't list any x86_64 DVD iso containing the build version. However, http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15... is listed, found by wget, and coming in at up to 3.4MB/s. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
Felix Miata composed on 2024-05-03 22:51 (UTC-0400):
Knurpht-openSUSE composed on 2024-05-04 03:15 (UTC+0200):
schreef Darryl Gregorash:
I'm aware of this, but I am a suspicious person 😉 -- I prefer things where I can see everything that is going on.
Me too. Given the fact that you have a mirror issue, maybe this will help: sudo zypper in openSUSE-repos- Leap sudo zypper ref This before doing the command I already showed. It will add the CDN that openSUSE has these days.
Some US and CA people reported real improvement using this service. Since I'm not in CA but in NL I already get one of the fastest mirrors, yet using the CDN is faster in rereshing the repos I feel.
North American mirrors for openSUSE are traditionally poor. Only a small handful carry the complete set. The rest only carry various subsets. CDN may have helped, but it didn't fix this basic issue. ATM, d.o.o is still showing 669.1 for x86_64 DVD after multiple refreshes. CDN doesn't list any x86_64 DVD iso containing the build version. However, http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15... is listed, found by wget, and coming in at up to 3.4MB/s.
ftp://mirror.sfo12.us.leaseweb.net/opensuse/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-DVD-x86_64-Build680.1-Media.iso is coming in about 5X as fast. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 2024-05-03 20:57, Felix Miata wrote:
Felix Miata composed on 2024-05-03 22:51 (UTC-0400):
North American mirrors for openSUSE are traditionally poor. Only a small handful carry the complete set. The rest only carry various subsets. CDN may have helped, but it didn't fix this basic issue. ATM, d.o.o is still showing 669.1 for x86_64 DVD after multiple refreshes. CDN doesn't list any x86_64 DVD iso containing the build version. However, http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15... is listed, found by wget, and coming in at up to 3.4MB/s.
ftp://mirror.sfo12.us.leaseweb.net/opensuse/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-DVD-x86_64-Build680.1-Media.iso is coming in about 5X as fast.
Add muug.ca to the list of up-to-date mirrors (ie they have build 680) -- so that leaves us with this question: Why are all the mirrors up-to-date, but the main repositories on the opensuse servers are not?
Darryl Gregorash composed on 2024-05-03 18:28 (UTC-0600):
OK, this isn't going as expected. I chose (as I usually do) to fetch the DVD .iso image and write it to USB. However, depending on how I try to grab it (left-click vs. middle-click/Save link as...) the .iso either does not exist, or is only 153 bytes, which is curious because, when I load the repo in Firefox, it says it is 4.3 GB.
Try using a downloader instead of a click: wget http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-D... Or use the NET iso. That way, you only download what is needed by the installation process, and the packages to actually be installed. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 2024-05-03 18:41, Felix Miata wrote:
Darryl Gregorash composed on 2024-05-03 18:28 (UTC-0600):
OK, this isn't going as expected. I chose (as I usually do) to fetch the DVD .iso image and write it to USB. However, depending on how I try to grab it (left-click vs. middle-click/Save link as...) the .iso either does not exist, or is only 153 bytes, which is curious because, when I load the repo in Firefox, it says it is 4.3 GB.
Try using a downloader instead of a click:
wget http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-D...
Thanks, Felix -- I tried that; here is the result:
# wget http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-D... --2024-05-03 18:57:35-- http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-D... Resolving download.opensuse.org (download.opensuse.org)... 195.135.223.226, 2a07:de40:b250:131:10:151:131:30 Connecting to download.opensuse.org (download.opensuse.org)|195.135.223.226|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found Location: /distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-DVD-x86_64-Build669.1-Media.iso [following] --2024-05-03 18:57:35-- http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-D... Reusing existing connection to download.opensuse.org:80. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found Location: http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/opensuse/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-... [following] --2024-05-03 18:57:36-- http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/opensuse/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-... Resolving www.muug.mb.ca (www.muug.mb.ca)... 208.81.1.244, 2605:e200:3:4::244 Connecting to www.muug.mb.ca (www.muug.mb.ca)|208.81.1.244|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently Location: http://muug.ca/pub/opensuse/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-DV... [following] --2024-05-03 18:57:36-- http://muug.ca/pub/opensuse/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-DV... Resolving muug.ca (muug.ca)... 208.81.1.244, 2605:e200:3:4::244 Reusing existing connection to www.muug.mb.ca:80. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2024-05-03 18:57:36 ERROR 404: Not Found.
So, it just sent me straight to muug.ca where (as I noted in my last post) build 669 no longer exists.
Or use the NET iso. That way, you only download what is needed by the installation process, and the packages to actually be installed. I thought of that, but as I mentioned to Knurpht, I am a suspicious person. I would prefer to avoid the (remote) possibility of a power interruption in the middle of a system upgrade. That is why I prefer to use the full DVD images.
Anyway, I now have build 680 and its sha256sum checks out, so I am happy.
On 2024-05-04 02:41, Felix Miata wrote:
Darryl Gregorash composed on 2024-05-03 18:28 (UTC-0600):
OK, this isn't going as expected. I chose (as I usually do) to fetch the DVD .iso image and write it to USB. However, depending on how I try to grab it (left-click vs. middle-click/Save link as...) the .iso either does not exist, or is only 153 bytes, which is curious because, when I load the repo in Firefox, it says it is 4.3 GB.
Try using a downloader instead of a click:
wget http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-D...
Or use the NET iso. That way, you only download what is needed by the installation process, and the packages to actually be installed.
Use aria2c instead: aria2c --check-integrity=true http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-D... or aria2c --check-integrity=true http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.6/iso/openSUSE-Leap-15.6-D... That will take care of verification, and download at top speed using several mirrors if appropriate If aria2c is not found, install it. It amazes me that people still do not use aria2c for downloading the iso, after so many years, and then complain about bad repos or bad images or bad downloads ;-p -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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