There is a wonderful way to learn how to do this at linuxfromscratch.org I have built my own distro from scratch and it is an excellent way to learn how to administer a "pure" linux system. Any of you with fair technical know-how give it a shot. It rocks! -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kreps [mailto:jerrykreps@jlkreps.net] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:38 PM To: Cliff Sarginson; Koos Pol; SuSE Mailinglist Subject: Re: [SLE] goodbye YaST? The answer to all this "pure Linux" theology is, of course, to roll your own. Pick up a kernel from kernel.org, the utils from the GNU site, and a dozen or so other utilities from various other sites. Then study perl or bash or python until you are an expert one of them (is bash powerful enough?) and write your config scripts, layout your own FS schema, etc... Should be fun, if you don't have to work to pay bills. JLK On Monday 08 January 2001 09:20, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:00:40 +0100, MaD dUCK wrote: | YaST - i won't even touch YaST2 here - is nice for the beginner | and the person who wants to use a functional system without | worrying too much. but YaST is a nightmare for the established | linux expert (i am blushing just a litte - but please don't | consider me arrogant). it's the windows syndrome - make | administration easier at the cost of complicating things and | hiding important details.
I am an experienced Unix admin on various platforms and SuSE's YaST is one of the best configuration tools I have seen around. And this is because it keeps track of huge amounts of dependendies (with dependencies being the price to pay for using a distribution i.s.o compiling the stuff yourself) Don't want to trade it for RedHat's junk even if they threw money with it. Do whatever you want to do but I think you're insane.
-- Koos Pol
I think yast1 is an excellent tool. I think this discussion has been starting because I believe Suse will junk or at least mothball yast1 - since the commercial boys will be wanting Yast2 for the expo's... and Suse is not going to pay to maintain two complext installation products. But I am certain they will choose the one that barely works but looks nicer (yast2) instead of the one that does work pretty well but looks like a toad's back after a road-accident. Yast2 with suitably doctored demo's setup will probably look like it works properly..
It will be a massive job to substitute for yast1. But if someone wants to do it .. well.. let them.. lol.
Cliff
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There are a few different issues going on here. The comments below about linux from scratch are excellent advice for people who want to learn how Linux/GNU (which is what it should really be called .. a la Debian) can hang together. When I decided a while ago to learn Linux, after years of working on most UNIX varieties under the sun, I built it piece by piece based on "looplinux" (if anyone has heard of that) and downloading things piece by piece from Slackware. This was fun and interesting. For my own education I looked into a few different major distros. I am not into "this distro is better than that" type discussions but Suse came out high on the list of useability, Redhat didn't even make the list. It remains a mystery to me why they are the biggest sellers, of all the ones I tried they were easily the worst. I think looking back at the responses today, there is no point in disassembling Suse, well it may be interesting ... but if you want to work from the ground up better go another way. Suse is walking the Redhat path, and that is fine, they want to make boodles of money, that is fine. They will lose some of their supporters in the process, since glitz will take over from professionalism. That is also fine. They may not realise that some os the people they lose (such as myself) actually have influence at work over decisions about things like Linux distributions to port software onto. Since I work for a highly professional company, no-one there will give a toss about pretty GUI setup programs that don't do anything much. I refer of course to Yast2 .. lol. Yast1 is a fine product. Suse is a fine distribution. I fear it will go down the drain... I will probably go to the Linux Expo in Amsterdam in a few weeks, I shall make a point of asking Suse why they don't respond or listen to anyone here. And see if they have a cute penguin for free for me :) My last word on the subject.. Good Luck Cliff (p.s. It is so much easier in the FreebSD world, there is only one distribution :) ... On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 03:42:24PM -0700, Seth Payne wrote:
There is a wonderful way to learn how to do this at linuxfromscratch.org
I have built my own distro from scratch and it is an excellent way to learn how to administer a "pure" linux system.
Any of you with fair technical know-how give it a shot. It rocks!
-----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kreps [mailto:jerrykreps@jlkreps.net] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:38 PM To: Cliff Sarginson; Koos Pol; SuSE Mailinglist Subject: Re: [SLE] goodbye YaST?
The answer to all this "pure Linux" theology is, of course, to roll your own. Pick up a kernel from kernel.org, the utils from the GNU site, and a dozen or so other utilities from various other sites. Then study perl or bash or python until you are an expert one of them (is bash powerful enough?) and write your config scripts, layout your own FS schema, etc... Should be fun, if you don't have to work to pay bills. JLK
On Monday 08 January 2001 09:20, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:00:40 +0100, MaD dUCK wrote: | YaST - i won't even touch YaST2 here - is nice for the beginner | and the person who wants to use a functional system without | worrying too much. but YaST is a nightmare for the established | linux expert (i am blushing just a litte - but please don't | consider me arrogant). it's the windows syndrome - make | administration easier at the cost of complicating things and | hiding important details.
I am an experienced Unix admin on various platforms and SuSE's YaST is one of the best configuration tools I have seen around. And this is because it keeps track of huge amounts of dependendies (with dependencies being the price to pay for using a distribution i.s.o compiling the stuff yourself) Don't want to trade it for RedHat's junk even if they threw money with it. Do whatever you want to do but I think you're insane.
-- Koos Pol
I think yast1 is an excellent tool. I think this discussion has been starting because I believe Suse will junk or at least mothball yast1 - since the commercial boys will be wanting Yast2 for the expo's... and Suse is not going to pay to maintain two complext installation products. But I am certain they will choose the one that barely works but looks nicer (yast2) instead of the one that does work pretty well but looks like a toad's back after a road-accident. Yast2 with suitably doctored demo's setup will probably look like it works properly..
It will be a massive job to substitute for yast1. But if someone wants to do it .. well.. let them.. lol.
Cliff
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Is this the truth about YaST1... SuSE is going scrap it? This is bad news indeed. I find it hard to swallow that SuSE would be willing to drop their one true ICON in the Linux administrators book of Good tools. I would never rely on a GUI based package for setting up and administering a system, things can be complex enough as it is. Guess I had better grab all the source for YaST1 and start turning it inside out. -William At 12:36 AM 1/9/01 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
There are a few different issues going on here. The comments below about linux from scratch are excellent advice for people who want to learn how Linux/GNU (which is what it should really be called .. a la Debian) can hang together. When I decided a while ago to learn Linux, after years of working on most UNIX varieties under the sun, I built it piece by piece based on "looplinux" (if anyone has heard of that) and downloading things piece by piece from Slackware. This was fun and interesting.
For my own education I looked into a few different major distros. I am not into "this distro is better than that" type discussions but Suse came out high on the list of useability, Redhat didn't even make the list. It remains a mystery to me why they are the biggest sellers, of all the ones I tried they were easily the worst.
I think looking back at the responses today, there is no point in disassembling Suse, well it may be interesting ... but if you want to work from the ground up better go another way.
Suse is walking the Redhat path, and that is fine, they want to make boodles of money, that is fine. They will lose some of their supporters in the process, since glitz will take over from professionalism. That is also fine. They may not realise that some os the people they lose (such as myself) actually have influence at work over decisions about things like Linux distributions to port software onto. Since I work for a highly professional company, no-one there will give a toss about pretty GUI setup programs that don't do anything much. I refer of course to Yast2 .. lol.
Yast1 is a fine product. Suse is a fine distribution. I fear it will go down the drain...
I will probably go to the Linux Expo in Amsterdam in a few weeks, I shall make a point of asking Suse why they don't respond or listen to anyone here. And see if they have a cute penguin for free for me :)
My last word on the subject..
Good Luck Cliff
(p.s. It is so much easier in the FreebSD world, there is only one distribution :) ...
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 03:42:24PM -0700, Seth Payne wrote:
There is a wonderful way to learn how to do this at linuxfromscratch.org
I have built my own distro from scratch and it is an excellent way to learn how to administer a "pure" linux system.
Any of you with fair technical know-how give it a shot. It rocks!
-----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kreps [mailto:jerrykreps@jlkreps.net] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:38 PM To: Cliff Sarginson; Koos Pol; SuSE Mailinglist Subject: Re: [SLE] goodbye YaST?
The answer to all this "pure Linux" theology is, of course, to roll your own. Pick up a kernel from kernel.org, the utils from the GNU site, and a dozen or so other utilities from various other sites. Then study perl or bash or python until you are an expert one of them (is bash powerful enough?) and write your config scripts, layout your own FS schema, etc... Should be fun, if you don't have to work to pay bills. JLK
On Monday 08 January 2001 09:20, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:00:40 +0100, MaD dUCK wrote: | YaST - i won't even touch YaST2 here - is nice for the beginner | and the person who wants to use a functional system without | worrying too much. but YaST is a nightmare for the established | linux expert (i am blushing just a litte - but please don't | consider me arrogant). it's the windows syndrome - make | administration easier at the cost of complicating things and | hiding important details.
I am an experienced Unix admin on various platforms and SuSE's YaST is one of the best configuration tools I have seen around. And this is because it keeps track of huge amounts of dependendies (with dependencies being the price to pay for using a distribution i.s.o compiling the stuff yourself) Don't want to trade it for RedHat's junk even if they threw money with it. Do whatever you want to do but I think you're insane.
-- Koos Pol
I think yast1 is an excellent tool. I think this discussion has been starting because I believe Suse will junk or at least mothball yast1 - since the commercial boys will be wanting Yast2 for the expo's... and Suse is not going to pay to maintain two complext installation products. But I am certain they will choose the one that barely works but looks nicer (yast2) instead of the one that does work pretty well but looks like a toad's back after a road-accident. Yast2 with suitably doctored demo's setup will probably look like it works properly..
It will be a massive job to substitute for yast1. But if someone wants to do it .. well.. let them.. lol.
Cliff
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Could someone who has been paying attention to this thread tell me which SuSE Employee said Yast1 was going away or where this has been published. This is news to me and seems to be more then speculation for discussion and a waste of valuable bandwidth and time. * William Perry Dulyea (wdulyea@qualcomm.com) [010109 09:21]: =>Is this the truth about YaST1... SuSE is going scrap it? This is bad news =>indeed. => =>I find it hard to swallow that SuSE would be willing to drop their one true =>ICON in the Linux administrators book of Good tools. I would never rely on =>a GUI based package for setting up and administering a system, things can =>be complex enough as it is. Guess I had better grab all the source for =>YaST1 and start turning it inside out. -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:brosenb@suse.com *************************************** SuSE Inc. 580 Second St Suite 210 Oakland CA 94607 U.S.A Tel: 1-510-628-3380 EXT:5086 Fax: 1-510-628-3381 *************************************** "My opinions are not a reflection of the opinions of SuSE Inc."
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:01:49PM -0800, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
Could someone who has been paying attention to this thread tell me which SuSE Employee said Yast1 was going away or where this has been published. This is news to me and seems to be more then speculation for discussion and a waste of valuable bandwidth and time.
Will you confirm then Ben that Suse will continue for the foreseaable future to maintain yast1, and to upgrade it's functionality as appropriate in future releases of Suse ? Cliff
Ohhh... touchy now:) Speculations do happen at times. To all those to whom it applies "my apologies". This is what happens when you jump into the middle of a thread full of bad news:( -William At 10:06 PM 1/9/01 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:01:49PM -0800, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
Could someone who has been paying attention to this thread tell me which SuSE Employee said Yast1 was going away or where this has been published. This is news to me and seems to be more then speculation for discussion and a waste of valuable bandwidth and time.
Will you confirm then Ben that Suse will continue for the foreseaable future to maintain yast1, and to upgrade it's functionality as appropriate in future releases of Suse ?
Cliff
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William Perry Dulyea wrote:
Speculations do happen at times. To all those to whom it applies "my apologies".
Yes, that's all it was - it was implied in something someone said, and it kind of snowballed... As I mentioned before in a previous message, SuSE is modularising the functionality of YaST{1|2}, including the frontend so in future there will be no difference - you just choose which frontend you want. I may just mention this thread to the folks at feedback@suse.de, since there's some interesting comments that I think should count as 'feedback' about where people *think* SuSE is going. I think it's time we put this thread to rest. ;-)
This is what happens when you jump into the middle of a thread full of bad news:(
At 10:06 PM 1/9/01 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:01:49PM -0800, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
Could someone who has been paying attention to this thread tell me which SuSE Employee said Yast1 was going away or where this has been published. This is news to me and seems to be more then speculation for discussion and a waste of valuable bandwidth and time.
Will you confirm then Ben that Suse will continue for the foreseaable future to maintain yast1, and to upgrade it's functionality as appropriate in future releases of Suse ?
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Happy New Year to all, Well Ben, I've been following this thread but no SuSE Employee ever said Yast1 was going away. IMHO this thread resumes some opinions on SuSE and is worth a little bandwith. As a newbie of SuSE ( one year using it ) let me just give some impressions on Yast1: Yast1 is very good. But it's like an old car with a ferrari engine inside. So I can understand SuSE for changing the look of Yast1 and adding some things like for example a downloading status GI when updating from suse ftp, etc.. So if SuSE could dress a ferrari Yast1 engine with a ferrari car and call it NewYast1, I think that everybody will use SuSE. thanks for the bandwith and time. filip. Le Mardi 9 Janvier 2001 21:01, Ben Rosenberg a �crit :
Could someone who has been paying attention to this thread tell me which SuSE Employee said Yast1 was going away or where this has been published. This is news to me and seems to be more then speculation for discussion and a waste of valuable bandwidth and time.
* William Perry Dulyea (wdulyea@qualcomm.com) [010109 09:21]: =>Is this the truth about YaST1... SuSE is going scrap it? This is bad news =>indeed. => =>I find it hard to swallow that SuSE would be willing to drop their one true =>ICON in the Linux administrators book of Good tools. I would never rely on =>a GUI based package for setting up and administering a system, things can =>be complex enough as it is. Guess I had better grab all the source for =>YaST1 and start turning it inside out.
-- Ben Rosenberg mailto:brosenb@suse.com *************************************** SuSE Inc. 580 Second St Suite 210 Oakland CA 94607 U.S.A Tel: 1-510-628-3380 EXT:5086 Fax: 1-510-628-3381 *************************************** "My opinions are not a reflection of the opinions of SuSE Inc."
At 12:01 PM 1/9/2001 -0800, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
Could someone who has been paying attention to this thread tell me which SuSE Employee said Yast1 was going away or where this has been published. This is news to me and seems to be more then speculation for discussion and a waste of valuable bandwidth and time.
* William Perry Dulyea (wdulyea@qualcomm.com) [010109 09:21]: =>Is this the truth about YaST1... SuSE is going scrap it? This is bad news =>indeed. => =>I find it hard to swallow that SuSE would be willing to drop their one
Has not been out right said. I think tha assumption is that the developement of yast2 has taken all of the resources away from yast1. I have yet to see anything new in yast2 , and there have beenseveral post that have mentioned that somthing or other had to be set up by yast2 and not yast1 , some sort of printers I think.I still find my self lost in yast2 and have had to go back to yast1 to get my box working agien. It does seem that yast1 is being "left behind" true
=>ICON in the Linux administrators book of Good tools. I would never rely on =>a GUI based package for setting up and administering a system, things can =>be complex enough as it is. Guess I had better grab all the source for =>YaST1 and start turning it inside out.
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At 09:21 AM 1/9/2001 -0800, William Perry Dulyea wrote:
Is this the truth about YaST1... SuSE is going scrap it? This is bad news indeed.
I find it hard to swallow that SuSE would be willing to drop their one true ICON in the Linux administrators book of Good tools. I would never rely on a GUI based package for setting up and administering a system, things can be complex enough as it is. Guess I had better grab all the source for YaST1 and start turning it inside out.
-William
At 12:36 AM 1/9/01 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
There are a few different issues going on here. The comments below about linux from scratch are excellent advice for people who want to learn how Linux/GNU (which is what it should really be called .. a la Debian) can hang together. When I decided a while ago to learn Linux, after years of working on most UNIX varieties under the sun, I built it piece by piece based on "looplinux" (if anyone has heard of that) and downloading things piece by piece from Slackware. This was fun and interesting.
For my own education I looked into a few different major distros. I am not into "this distro is better than that" type discussions but Suse came out high on the list of useability, Redhat didn't even make the list. It remains a mystery to me why they are the biggest sellers, of all the ones I tried they were easily the worst.
I think looking back at the responses today, there is no point in disassembling Suse, well it may be interesting ... but if you want to work from the ground up better go another way.
Suse is walking the Redhat path, and that is fine, they want to make boodles of money, that is fine. They will lose some of their supporters in the process, since glitz will take over from professionalism. That is also fine. They may not realise that some os the people they lose (such as myself) actually have influence at work over decisions about things like Linux distributions to port software onto. Since I work for a highly professional company, no-one there will give a toss about pretty GUI setup programs that don't do anything much. I refer of course to Yast2 .. lol.
Yast1 is a fine product. Suse is a fine distribution. I fear it will go down the drain...
I will probably go to the Linux Expo in Amsterdam in a few weeks, I shall make a point of asking Suse why they don't respond or listen to anyone here. And see if they have a cute penguin for free for me :)
My last word on the subject..
Good Luck Cliff
(p.s. It is so much easier in the FreebSD world, there is only one distribution :) ...
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 03:42:24PM -0700, Seth Payne wrote:
There is a wonderful way to learn how to do this at linuxfromscratch.org
I have built my own distro from scratch and it is an excellent way to learn how to administer a "pure" linux system.
Any of you with fair technical know-how give it a shot. It rocks!
-----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kreps [mailto:jerrykreps@jlkreps.net] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:38 PM To: Cliff Sarginson; Koos Pol; SuSE Mailinglist Subject: Re: [SLE] goodbye YaST?
The answer to all this "pure Linux" theology is, of course, to roll your own. Pick up a kernel from kernel.org, the utils from the GNU site, and a dozen or so other utilities from various other sites. Then study perl or bash or python until you are an expert one of them (is bash powerful enough?) and write your config scripts, layout your own FS schema, etc... Should be fun, if you don't have to work to pay bills. JLK
On Monday 08 January 2001 09:20, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:00:40 +0100, MaD dUCK wrote: | YaST - i won't even touch YaST2 here - is nice for the beginner | and the person who wants to use a functional system without | worrying too much. but YaST is a nightmare for the established | linux expert (i am blushing just a litte - but please don't | consider me arrogant). it's the windows syndrome - make | administration easier at the cost of complicating things and | hiding important details.
I am an experienced Unix admin on various platforms and SuSE's YaST is one of the best configuration tools I have seen around. And this is because it keeps track of huge amounts of dependendies (with dependencies being the price to pay for using a distribution i.s.o compiling the stuff yourself) Don't want to trade it for RedHat's junk even if they threw money with it. Do whatever you want to do but I think you're insane.
-- Koos Pol
I think yast1 is an excellent tool. I think this discussion has been starting because I believe Suse will junk or at least mothball yast1 - since the commercial boys will be wanting Yast2 for the expo's... and Suse is not going to pay to maintain two complext installation products. But I am certain they will choose the one that barely works but looks nicer (yast2) instead of the one that does work pretty well but looks like a toad's back after a road-accident. Yast2 with suitably doctored demo's setup will probably look like it works properly..
It will be a massive job to substitute for yast1. But if someone wants to do it .. well.. let them.. lol.
Cliff
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If I recall , its not GPLed , as SUSE forced dome cd ditrbuters to remove it from the 2.00 cd distros they were putting out. Yes the os its self is gpl but not yast. I am not a programer , by why could you not just graft a GUI front end to it that would just pass the info on to text mode yasst , kind of like what partionmagic did ? psychology
were Popper's favorites- are formed in such a way that they cannot be falsified by data.
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Seth Payne wrote:
There is a wonderful way to learn how to do this at linuxfromscratch.org
I have built my own distro from scratch and it is an excellent way to learn how to administer a "pure" linux system.
Any of you with fair technical know-how give it a shot. It rocks!
I'll second that! I've had a play myself, and although half of it is just common sense, once you get into dealing with the boot scripts, etc. you really start to learn an awful lot... It answers the questions that were stopping you playing with your own distribution before. Bye, Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
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