[opensuse] Extensive disk i/o at startup (10.3)(rephrased posting)
Hi list, _ on my SuSE10.3 plain vanilla, there is heavy disk i/o at startup. So much that it renders my PC nearly unuseable. This goes on for like 10 minutes. Then goes away, all is good. - initially I thought it was Kmail doing something...may still be. A "ps auxw" gives me 50+ lines with vk 3725 0.0 0.2 25428 4756 ? S 09:06 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-vk/klaunchermnooIa.slave-s I did remove beagle/kerry the other day, using the advise given by David C. Rankin of this list. This worked (I think) very well. So I take it, it's got nothing to do with that? Any hints? (Beagle, I did: sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Hi list,
_ on my SuSE10.3 plain vanilla, there is heavy disk i/o at startup. So much that it renders my PC nearly unuseable. This goes on for like 10 minutes. Then goes away, all is good. - initially I thought it was Kmail doing something...may still be.
A "ps auxw" gives me 50+ lines with
vk 3725 0.0 0.2 25428 4756 ? S 09:06 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-vk/klaunchermnooIa.slave-s
I did remove beagle/kerry the other day, using the advise given by David C. Rankin of this list. This worked (I think) very well. So I take it, it's got nothing to do with that? Any hints?
(Beagle, I did: sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle)
The other possibility is zypper refreshing each time you log in. You might consider doing suggestion from Benjamin Weber posted yesterday: mv /var/cache/zypp/zypp.db{,old} zypper ref will be slow first time -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Hi list,
_ on my SuSE10.3 plain vanilla, there is heavy disk i/o at startup. So much that it renders my PC nearly unuseable. This goes on for like 10 minutes. Then goes away, all is good. - initially I thought it was Kmail doing something...may still be.
A "ps auxw" gives me 50+ lines with
vk 3725 0.0 0.2 25428 4756 ? S 09:06 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-vk/klaunchermnooIa.slave-s
I did remove beagle/kerry the other day, using the advise given by David C. Rankin of this list. This worked (I think) very well. So I take it, it's got nothing to do with that? Any hints?
(Beagle, I did: sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle)
What does top say? If need be, make a script S99top in the /etc/init.d/rc.5 or rc.3 directory, like this #!/bin/bash # run top on a konsole screen /usr/bin/top <> /dev/tty3 Then after the boot-up is at the point of giving you system logins, just ctrl-alt-F3 to tty3, and look at what top tells you. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Torsdag den 14. Februar 2008 skrev Aaron Kulkis:
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Hi list,
_ on my SuSE10.3 plain vanilla, there is heavy disk i/o at startup. So much that it renders my PC nearly unuseable. This goes on for like 10 minutes. Then goes away, all is good. - initially I thought it was Kmail doing something...may still be.
A "ps auxw" gives me 50+ lines with
vk 3725 0.0 0.2 25428 4756 ? S 09:06 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-vk/klaunchermnooIa.slave-s
I did remove beagle/kerry the other day, using the advise given by David C. Rankin of this list. This worked (I think) very well. So I take it, it's got nothing to do with that? Any hints?
(Beagle, I did: sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle)
What does top say?
If need be, make a script S99top in the /etc/init.d/rc.5 or rc.3 directory, like this
#!/bin/bash # run top on a konsole screen /usr/bin/top <> /dev/tty3
Then after the boot-up is at the point of giving you system logins, just ctrl-alt-F3 to tty3, and look at what top tells you.
You lot are a sharp bunch :-) I'll try out the suggestions and report back. - thanks again! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Fredag den 15. Februar 2008 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard:
Torsdag den 14. Februar 2008 skrev Aaron Kulkis:
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Hi list,
_ on my SuSE10.3 plain vanilla, there is heavy disk i/o at startup. So much that it renders my PC nearly unuseable. This goes on for like 10 minutes. Then goes away, all is good. - initially I thought it was Kmail doing something...may still be.
A "ps auxw" gives me 50+ lines with
vk 3725 0.0 0.2 25428 4756 ? S 09:06 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-vk/klaunchermnooIa.slave-s
I did remove beagle/kerry the other day, using the advise given by David C. Rankin of this list. This worked (I think) very well. So I take it, it's got nothing to do with that? Any hints?
(Beagle, I did: sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle)
What does top say?
If need be, make a script S99top in the /etc/init.d/rc.5 or rc.3 directory, like this
#!/bin/bash # run top on a konsole screen /usr/bin/top <> /dev/tty3
Then after the boot-up is at the point of giving you system logins, just ctrl-alt-F3 to tty3, and look at what top tells you.
You lot are a sharp bunch :-) I'll try out the suggestions and report back. - thanks again!
I promised to report back...well, Beagle/Kerry has gone. Just fine. I've not touched my computer for 2 days, just switched it on. Worked fine and normal...until I fired up Kmail. It went berserk with file i/o... That went on for aprox. 10 minutes, then all went away. Everyting is now normal, all is good. It's not all that serious, but, of course if you've got a good idea...also as to what I could do to further investigate. Never mind, have a nice weekend - for what is left of it :-) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: > Fredag den 15. Februar 2008 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard: >> Torsdag den 14. Februar 2008 skrev Aaron Kulkis: >>> Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: >>>> Hi list, >>>> >>>> _ on my SuSE10.3 plain vanilla, there is heavy disk i/o at startup. So >>>> much that it renders my PC nearly unuseable. This goes on for like 10 >>>> minutes. Then goes away, all is good. >>>> - initially I thought it was Kmail doing something...may still be. >>>> >>>> A "ps auxw" gives me 50+ lines with >>>> >>>> vk 3725 0.0 0.2 25428 4756 ? S 09:06 0:00 kio_file >>>> [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-vk/klaunchermnooIa.slave-s >>>> >>>> I did remove beagle/kerry the other day, using the advise given by David >>>> C. Rankin of this list. This worked (I think) very well. So I take it, >>>> it's got nothing to do with that? Any hints? >>>> >>>> >>>> (Beagle, I did: sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r >>>> ~/.beagle) >>> What does top say? >>> >>> If need be, make a script S99top in the /etc/init.d/rc.5 or rc.3 >>> directory, like this >>> >>> #!/bin/bash >>> # run top on a konsole screen >>> /usr/bin/top <> /dev/tty3 >>> >>> Then after the boot-up is at the point of giving you >>> system logins, just ctrl-alt-F3 to tty3, and look at >>> what top tells you. >> You lot are a sharp bunch :-) >> I'll try out the suggestions and report back. >> - thanks again! >> > > I promised to report back...well, Beagle/Kerry has gone. > Just fine. I've not touched my computer for 2 days, just > switched it on. > Worked fine and normal...until I fired up Kmail. It went > berserk with file i/o... > > That went on for aprox. 10 minutes, then all went away. > Everyting is now normal, all is good. > > It's not all that serious, but, of course if you've got a > good idea...also as to what I could do to further investigate. > > Never mind, have a nice weekend - for what is left of it :-) > Well, at least we and you know the source of the problem now. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: > Fredag den 15. Februar 2008 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard: >> Torsdag den 14. Februar 2008 skrev Aaron Kulkis: >>> Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: >>>> Hi list, >>>> >>>> _ on my SuSE10.3 plain vanilla, there is heavy disk i/o at startup. So >>>> much that it renders my PC nearly unuseable. This goes on for like 10 >>>> minutes. Then goes away, all is good. >>>> - initially I thought it was Kmail doing something...may still be. >>>> >>>> A "ps auxw" gives me 50+ lines with >>>> >>>> vk 3725 0.0 0.2 25428 4756 ? S 09:06 0:00 kio_file >>>> [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-vk/klaunchermnooIa.slave-s >>>> >>>> I did remove beagle/kerry the other day, using the advise given by David >>>> C. Rankin of this list. This worked (I think) very well. So I take it, >>>> it's got nothing to do with that? Any hints? >>>> >>>> >>>> (Beagle, I did: sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r >>>> ~/.beagle) >>> What does top say? >>> >>> If need be, make a script S99top in the /etc/init.d/rc.5 or rc.3 >>> directory, like this >>> >>> #!/bin/bash >>> # run top on a konsole screen >>> /usr/bin/top <> /dev/tty3 >>> >>> Then after the boot-up is at the point of giving you >>> system logins, just ctrl-alt-F3 to tty3, and look at >>> what top tells you. >> You lot are a sharp bunch :-) >> I'll try out the suggestions and report back. >> - thanks again! >> > > I promised to report back...well, Beagle/Kerry has gone. Just fine. I've not touched my computer for 2 days, just switched it on. > Worked fine and normal...until I fired up Kmail. It went berserk with file i/o... > > That went on for aprox. 10 minutes, then all went away. Everyting is now normal, all is good. > > It's not all that serious, but, of course if you've got a good idea...also as to what I could do to further investigate. > > Never mind, have a nice weekend - for what is left of it :-) > > > Easy solution - Thunderbird. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Torsdag den 21. Februar 2008 skrev David C. Rankin:
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Fredag den 15. Februar 2008 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard: ... lots of stuff cut away... ...
Never mind, have a nice weekend - for what is left of it :-)
Easy solution - Thunderbird.
-- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Hi, Yes, Thunderbird. Tried that a long time ago, perhaps it's time again. If I install TB from with YaST, I'll get the correct one, latest and greatest, I suppose. One question, though...I've got lots of filters, lots of accounts that Kmail is collecting mail from. Will they (both or just the accounts) import into TB? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Torsdag den 21. Februar 2008 skrev David C. Rankin:
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Fredag den 15. Februar 2008 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard: ... lots of stuff cut away... ...
Hi, Yes, Thunderbird. Tried that a long time ago, perhaps it's time again. If I install TB from with YaST, I'll get the correct one, latest and greatest, I suppose. One question, though...I've got lots of filters, lots of accounts that Kmail is collecting mail from. Will they (both or just the accounts) import into TB?
You will get the latest with a Yast install and yes TB can import mail, accounts and settings. I am fairly sure that settings includes filters. I haven't tried though. Also with TB "lightning" add-on you get full calendar support for your remote calendars as well. I have been using TB for about a year now after switching from kmail. No regrets. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Torsdag den 21. Februar 2008 skrev David C. Rankin:
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Torsdag den 21. Februar 2008 skrev David C. Rankin:
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Fredag den 15. Februar 2008 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard:
... lots of stuff cut away... ...
Hi, Yes, Thunderbird. Tried that a long time ago, perhaps it's time again. If I install TB from with YaST, I'll get the correct one, latest and greatest, I suppose. One question, though...I've got lots of filters, lots of accounts that Kmail is collecting mail from. Will they (both or just the accounts) import into TB?
You will get the latest with a Yast install and yes TB can import mail, accounts and settings. I am fairly sure that settings includes filters. I haven't tried though. Also with TB "lightning" add-on you get full calendar support for your remote calendars as well. I have been using TB for about a year now after switching from kmail. No regrets.
-- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Hi list and David, - installed TB from YaST. Looks fine - but certainly does not offer to import anything at all. Can't select/force/convince it to do it manually either... - am a bit puzzled, 'cause I certainly thought/expected it to do so. Mind you, my Kmail is a rather big beast, containing 30000+ mails... (Yes I know, one day..clean up and all) It appears to be living in ~/Mail/ Odd thing though, it picked up ONE account from somewhere when first run, a rather old forgotten one (still active though), but where did it get it from... Anyhow, I'm glad for any advise - and for all advise I've received so far. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Torsdag den 21. Februar 2008 skrev David C. Rankin:
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Torsdag den 21. Februar 2008 skrev David C. Rankin:
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Fredag den 15. Februar 2008 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard: ... lots of stuff cut away... ...
Hi, Yes, Thunderbird. Tried that a long time ago, perhaps it's time again. If I install TB from with YaST, I'll get the correct one, latest and greatest, I suppose. One question, though...I've got lots of filters, lots of accounts that Kmail is collecting mail from. Will they (both or just the accounts) import into TB? You will get the latest with a Yast install and yes TB can import mail, accounts and settings. I am fairly sure that settings includes filters. I haven't tried though. Also with TB "lightning" add-on you get full calendar support for your remote calendars as well. I have been using TB for about a year now after switching from kmail. No regrets.
Hi list and David,
- installed TB from YaST. Looks fine - but certainly does not offer to import anything at all. Can't select/force/convince it to do it manually either...
- am a bit puzzled, 'cause I certainly thought/expected it to do so. Mind you, my Kmail is a rather big beast, containing 30000+ mails... (Yes I know, one day..clean up and all)
It appears to be living in ~/Mail/
Odd thing though, it picked up ONE account from somewhere when first run, a rather old forgotten one (still active though), but where did it get it from...
Anyhow, I'm glad for any advise - and for all advise I've received so far.
Verner, That's strange, because Tools->import->settings has worked when I've set it up for other people. I have about 15,000 mails and TB has no problems at all. Moving TB's mail and setting from computer to computer is as simple as copying ~/.thunderbird and ~/Mail to the new system. I don't know specifically about kmail -> tbird, but you could simply make sure where your local mail is stored in kmail and then either move the kmail mailboxes to ~/Mail and subscribe to the folders in TB or copy the mail to an imap account and set up that account in TB. Good luck! -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Torsdag den 21. Februar 2008 skrev David C. Rankin:
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Fredag den 15. Februar 2008 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard:
... lots of stuff cut away... ...
Never mind, have a nice weekend - for what is left of it :-)
Easy solution - Thunderbird.
-- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Hi, Yes, Thunderbird. Tried that a long time ago, perhaps it's time again. If I install TB from with YaST, I'll get the correct one, latest and greatest, I suppose. One question, though...I've got lots of filters, lots of accounts that Kmail is collecting mail from. Will they (both or just the accounts) import into TB?
Don't know, though with using GMail I just set the filters on the web site then use IMAP. Works like a charm. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Hi list,
_ on my SuSE10.3 plain vanilla, there is heavy disk i/o at startup. So much that it renders my PC nearly unuseable. This goes on for like 10 minutes. Then goes away, all is good. - initially I thought it was Kmail doing something...may still be.
A "ps auxw" gives me 50+ lines with
vk 3725 0.0 0.2 25428 4756 ? S 09:06 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-vk/klaunchermnooIa.slave-s
I did remove beagle/kerry the other day, using the advise given by David C. Rankin of this list. This worked (I think) very well. So I take it, it's got nothing to do with that? Any hints?
(Beagle, I did: sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle)
The next cure is to look at the task bar for the green "openSuSE Updater" icon. Right click and select configure. Uncheck the "start at login" checkbox. Save the settings. Right click the updater icon again and choose "quit". This will cure the slowness. You will just need to remember to check for updates manually or set Yast->Software->Automatic Online Update to run weekly/daily (fit your preference) at a specified time. After you have rid yourself of beagle and opensuse updater, your system will function normally on login. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 February 2008 03:32:21 pm David C. Rankin wrote:
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Hi list,
_ on my SuSE10.3 plain vanilla, there is heavy disk i/o at startup. So much that it renders my PC nearly unuseable. This goes on for like 10 minutes. Then goes away, all is good. - initially I thought it was Kmail doing something...may still be.
A "ps auxw" gives me 50+ lines with
vk 3725 0.0 0.2 25428 4756 ? S 09:06 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-vk/klaunchermnooIa.slave-s
I did remove beagle/kerry the other day, using the advise given by David C. Rankin of this list. This worked (I think) very well. So I take it, it's got nothing to do with that? Any hints?
(Beagle, I did: sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle)
The next cure is to look at the task bar for the green "openSuSE Updater" icon. Right click and select configure. Uncheck the "start at login" checkbox. Save the settings. Right click the updater icon again and choose "quit".
This will cure the slowness. You will just need to remember to check for updates manually or set Yast->Software->Automatic Online Update to run weekly/daily (fit your preference) at a specified time.
After you have rid yourself of beagle and opensuse updater, your system will function normally on login.
Welll......Don't forget about "locate" if you have that installed. That shouldn't take very long though unless you have a ton of data. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bob S wrote:
On Thursday 14 February 2008 03:32:21 pm David C. Rankin wrote:
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Hi list,
_ on my SuSE10.3 plain vanilla, there is heavy disk i/o at startup. So much that it renders my PC nearly unuseable. This goes on for like 10 minutes. Then goes away, all is good. - initially I thought it was Kmail doing something...may still be.
A "ps auxw" gives me 50+ lines with
vk 3725 0.0 0.2 25428 4756 ? S 09:06 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-vk/klaunchermnooIa.slave-s
I did remove beagle/kerry the other day, using the advise given by David C. Rankin of this list. This worked (I think) very well. So I take it, it's got nothing to do with that? Any hints?
(Beagle, I did: sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle) kerry && rm -r ~/.beagle) The next cure is to look at the task bar for the green "openSuSE Updater" icon. Right click and select configure. Uncheck the "start at login" checkbox. Save the settings. Right click the updater icon again and choose "quit".
This will cure the slowness. You will just need to remember to check for updates manually or set Yast->Software->Automatic Online Update to run weekly/daily (fit your preference) at a specified time.
After you have rid yourself of beagle and opensuse updater, your system will function normally on login.
Welll......Don't forget about "locate" if you have that installed. That shouldn't take very long though unless you have a ton of data.
Bob S
Bob, Good point. I set my maintenance cron jobs to only run when I'm asleep and not at login. You can set this activity for cron daily in Yast->system->sysconfig editor->system->cron->DAILY_TIME. 03:00 works for me. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bob S wrote:
On Thursday 14 February 2008 03:32:21 pm David C. Rankin wrote:
This will cure the slowness. You will just need to remember to check for updates manually or set Yast->Software->Automatic Online Update to run weekly/daily (fit your preference) at a specified time.
After you have rid yourself of beagle and opensuse updater, your system will function normally on login.
Welll......Don't forget about "locate" if you have that installed. That shouldn't take very long though unless you have a ton of data.
In contrast to beagle, I HIGHLY endorse locate.
Bob S
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On Friday 15 February 2008 09:29, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Bob S wrote:
...
Welll......Don't forget about "locate" if you have that installed. That shouldn't take very long though unless you have a ton of data.
In contrast to beagle, I HIGHLY endorse locate.
Again and again again with this: - Locate _only_ knows file names. - Beagle indexes file _contents_. Locate is in _no way_ a replacement or substitute for Beagle. They serve different purposes.
Bob S
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Friday 15 February 2008 09:29, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Bob S wrote:
...
Welll......Don't forget about "locate" if you have that installed. That shouldn't take very long though unless you have a ton of data. In contrast to beagle, I HIGHLY endorse locate.
Again and again again with this:
- Locate _only_ knows file names.
I know.
- Beagle indexes file _contents_.
Which is normally well-indicated by file name and location within the directory tree.
Locate is in _no way_ a replacement or substitute for Beagle.
On the other hand, resources consumed by locate tend to be quite minimal -- updatedb runs extremely quickly with no noticeable impact on system responsiveness. The value/cost proposition for locate is favorable, because it's simple and debugged.
They serve different purposes.
Yes, I know. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 16 February 2008 11:35, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
...
Again and again again with this:
- Locate _only_ knows file names.
I know.
- Beagle indexes file _contents_.
Which is normally well-indicated by file name and location within the directory tree.
Then I can conclude you don't maintain a library of technical and research publications retrieved from, say the ACM Digital Library or CiteSeer or from authors own Web sites. ACM DL PDF files names are all of the form "p###-author.pdf". Those from Citeseer have no rhyme or rhythm (they're usually what the submitting author chose, and are almost uniformly meaningless). If you don't have enough documents on your system to require a content-oriented index, good for you. There are many of us who do. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
- Beagle indexes file _contents_.
And also other data like emails, browsing history and chat logs which cannot be meaningfully categorized using filenames and directories. Of course anything else indexing non-file data would also work.
Which is normally well-indicated by file name and location within the directory tree.
- dBera -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 11:35, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
...
Again and again again with this:
- Locate _only_ knows file names. I know.
- Beagle indexes file _contents_. Which is normally well-indicated by file name and location within the directory tree.
Then I can conclude you don't maintain a library of technical and research publications retrieved from, say the ACM Digital Library or CiteSeer or from authors own Web sites. ACM DL PDF files names are all of the form "p###-author.pdf". Those from Citeseer have no rhyme or rhythm (they're usually what the submitting author chose, and are almost uniformly meaningless).
that's hardly the average user..or anything close to the average user.
If you don't have enough documents on your system to require a content-oriented index, good for you. There are many of us who do.
file servers, yes. Desktops? hardly. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 17 February 2008 20:01, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 11:35, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
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- Locate _only_ knows file names.
- Beagle indexes file _contents_.
Which is normally well-indicated by file name and location within the directory tree.
Then I can conclude you don't maintain a library of technical and research publications retrieved from, say the ACM Digital Library or CiteSeer or from authors own Web sites. ACM DL PDF files names are all of the form "p###-author.pdf". Those from Citeseer have no rhyme or rhythm (they're usually what the submitting author chose, and are almost uniformly meaningless).
that's hardly the average user..or anything close to the average user.
You don't know what you're talking about.
If you don't have enough documents on your system to require a content-oriented index, good for you. There are many of us who do.
file servers, yes. Desktops? hardly.
Yes. All _proper_ users are just like you. The absolute average, middle-of-the-road user who defines and dictates what all other _proper_ users want and need and should have. It's an absurd assertion that no one needs a file content index. Many do. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 17 February 2008 20:01, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 11:35, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
...
- Locate _only_ knows file names. - Beagle indexes file _contents_. Which is normally well-indicated by file name and location within the directory tree. Then I can conclude you don't maintain a library of technical and research publications retrieved from, say the ACM Digital Library or CiteSeer or from authors own Web sites. ACM DL PDF files names are all of the form "p###-author.pdf". Those from Citeseer have no rhyme or rhythm (they're usually what the submitting author chose, and are almost uniformly meaningless).
Randall R Schulz wrote: that's hardly the average user..or anything close to the average user.
You don't know what you're talking about.
If you don't have enough documents on your system to require a content-oriented index, good for you. There are many of us who do. file servers, yes. Desktops? hardly.
Yes. All _proper_ users are just like you. The absolute average, middle-of-the-road user who defines and dictates what all other _proper_ users want and need and should have.
It's an absurd assertion that no one needs a file content index. Many do.
I didn't say never. I said "hardly" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Verner Kjærsgaard
Hi list,
_ on my SuSE10.3 plain vanilla, there is heavy disk i/o at startup. So much that it renders my PC nearly unuseable. This goes on for like 10 minutes. Then goes away, all is good. - initially I thought it was Kmail doing something...may still be.
A "ps auxw" gives me 50+ lines with
vk 3725 0.0 0.2 25428 4756 ? S 09:06 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-vk/klaunchermnooIa.slave-s
I did remove beagle/kerry the other day, using the advise given by David C. Rankin of this list. This worked (I think) very well. So I take it, it's got nothing to do with that? Any hints?
[...] Just might be updatedb, if it is cron job that couldn't run because pc wasn't running. -- I have seen the future and I'm not in it! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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