[opensuse] anyone know how to setup Win-Lin VPNs?
My parents are having problems w/their computers and I'm hoping I can use the remote desktop feature in Win7 to correct their issues (some of the 3rd party apps that route through 3rd party servers (Teamview) are just so SLOW.... But I was thinking if I can setup a vpn on linux and she can install VPN SW on Windows... then I should be able to get a direct connect. She is able to ping my linux server, but that's all I know as far as connectivity goes. I've found some openvpn SW for Windows and this setup page: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:OpenVPN_Installation_and_Setup for linux... but am not clear on how to make the win side connect as a network connection (not to mention windows routing is such a pain)... I got down to past building the DH key... but then they talk about client config -- and I realize at that point it sounds like it is for another linux box... ??? I'm a bit -familiar w/iptables -- and have setup masquerading and using the linux box for local traffic forwarding/connecting... Does anyone have any experience in this area? thanks much...... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Linda Walsh <suse@tlinx.org> [08-22-15 22:41]:
My parents are having problems w/their computers and I'm hoping I can use the remote desktop feature in Win7 to correct their issues (some of the 3rd party apps that route through 3rd party servers (Teamview) are just so SLOW....
But I was thinking if I can setup a vpn on linux and she can install VPN SW on Windows... then I should be able to get a direct connect. She is able to ping my linux server, but that's all I know as far as connectivity goes.
I've found some openvpn SW for Windows and this setup page: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:OpenVPN_Installation_and_Setup for linux... but am not clear on how to make the win side connect as a network connection (not to mention windows routing is such a pain)...
I got down to past building the DH key... but then they talk about client config -- and I realize at that point it sounds like it is for another linux box...
???
I'm a bit -familiar w/iptables -- and have setup masquerading and using the linux box for local traffic forwarding/connecting...
Does anyone have any experience in this area?
I use TightVNC on windows and tigervnc on linux and don't have any problems unless the windoz box changes ip addr. Then a web address and telephone call is necessary. I have setup automagic blank emails from the windoz box and examined the headers to determine a changed ip address, but I have had probs with different ip providers with this. I really cannot comment on windoz remote desktop features as I have never made the effort to make it work. TightVNC is simple and easy and very functional. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/22/2015 8:20 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Linda Walsh <suse@tlinx.org> [08-22-15 22:41]:
My parents are having problems w/their computers and I'm hoping I can use the remote desktop feature in Win7 to correct their issues (some of the 3rd party apps that route through 3rd party servers (Teamview) are just so SLOW....
But I was thinking if I can setup a vpn on linux and she can install VPN SW on Windows... then I should be able to get a direct connect. She is able to ping my linux server, but that's all I know as far as connectivity goes.
I've found some openvpn SW for Windows and this setup page: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:OpenVPN_Installation_and_Setup for linux... but am not clear on how to make the win side connect as a network connection (not to mention windows routing is such a pain)...
I got down to past building the DH key... but then they talk about client config -- and I realize at that point it sounds like it is for another linux box...
???
I'm a bit -familiar w/iptables -- and have setup masquerading and using the linux box for local traffic forwarding/connecting...
Does anyone have any experience in this area?
I use TightVNC on windows and tigervnc on linux and don't have any problems unless the windoz box changes ip addr. Then a web address and telephone call is necessary. I have setup automagic blank emails from the windoz box and examined the headers to determine a changed ip address, but I have had probs with different ip providers with this.
I really cannot comment on windoz remote desktop features as I have never made the effort to make it work. TightVNC is simple and easy and very functional.
But tightvnc can be a bit hard to get installed over the phone, especially if there is a router involved. When dealing with a non technical user, I've found Chrome Remote Desktop extension to the Chrome browser works pretty well. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
John M Andersen wrote:
I really cannot comment on windoz remote desktop features as I have never made the effort to make it work. TightVNC is simple and easy and very functional.
But tightvnc can be a bit hard to get installed over the phone, especially if there is a router involved.
If possible, I don't just want a remote desktop, but have them being able to copy files off my server via samba would be nice...
When dealing with a non technical user, I've found Chrome Remote Desktop extension to the Chrome browser works pretty well.
Is is PTP? Something I want to avoid is any solution that goes through a third party --- that really slows things down -- not to mention it's usually a lead-in to them charging $$$, but I also would _like_ to have a full Network connection (I think -- they can sometimes take up alot of time...;-)... parents!) But they don't have the fastest connection, and if they have to upload to a 3rd party, who then sends it to me, well... and vice versa... icky... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/23/2015 01:07 AM, Linda Walsh wrote:
If possible, I don't just want a remote desktop, but have them being able to copy files off my server via samba would be nice...
gee Linda, are you sure you don't want to use Skype of Google hangouts? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/22/2015 11:20 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Linda Walsh <suse@tlinx.org> [08-22-15 22:41]:
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Does anyone have any experience in this area?
I use TightVNC on windows and tigervnc on linux ...
I've done this too. Its nice to have a big screen at the Linux end for the smaller one at the Windows end. its also nice to have good bandwidth!
I really cannot comment on windoz remote desktop features as I have never made the effort to make it work. TightVNC is simple and easy and very functional.
Same here. I've used windows remote desktop inside a firm with the firms IT guys setting it up for me, and suffering problems with licensing every other day. But TightVNC / tigervnc "just works". -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Linda, IMHO, You are in the right track. Although I'm by no means a Guru on OpenVPN, I do use it, personally and professionally. As to you doubts about the config file, there is one config file for the server. It seems you have that covered. Regarding your client file, it's even easier. Just add the 'client option', strip down all server related definitions, like 'route', 'push', etc, and you're done with the config file. You can even use it with Android Software to get access to it. Now about the the Windows Client software, I always use the Standard OpenVPN client. You can get it at:https://openvpn.net/index.php/download/community-downloads.html With this client the config file is the same as in the Linux box, with the few differences I mentioned above. Just bear in mind that you also need to secure you OpenVPN communications. However, since you're just starting and based on your description, just start with a simple shared-key setup to try it out. If you later on, feel more secure on using X.509 certificates, or limiting to certain more secure TLS modes and encryption ciphers and authentication modes, there is a lot of documentation on the OpenVPN website. Also feel free to ask me as well. I'll be glad to help you on this, on any way I can. I'll try to send you a sample config file for both server and client as soon as I can. Also check OpenVPN website, as it also contains this kind of documentation. Regards, Rui Santos @ KitKat On 23 Aug 2015 03:40, "Linda Walsh" <suse@tlinx.org> wrote:
My parents are having problems w/their computers and I'm hoping I can use the remote desktop feature in Win7 to correct their issues (some of the 3rd party apps that route through 3rd party servers (Teamview) are just so SLOW....
But I was thinking if I can setup a vpn on linux and she can install VPN SW on Windows... then I should be able to get a direct connect. She is able to ping my linux server, but that's all I know as far as connectivity goes.
I've found some openvpn SW for Windows and this setup page: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:OpenVPN_Installation_and_Setup for linux... but am not clear on how to make the win side connect as a network connection (not to mention windows routing is such a pain)...
I got down to past building the DH key... but then they talk about client config -- and I realize at that point it sounds like it is for another linux box...
???
I'm a bit -familiar w/iptables -- and have setup masquerading and using the linux box for local traffic forwarding/connecting...
Does anyone have any experience in this area?
thanks much......
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Quoting Rui Santos <rsantos@ruisantos.com>:
Hi Linda,
IMHO, You are in the right track. Although I'm by no means a Guru on OpenVPN, I do use it, personally and professionally.
The OpenVPN gui in Windows is a bit poor though. You will need to install the config file in their "C:\Program Files\OpenVPN\config\" (probably) and then OpenVPN will automatically load it (if there is one) and the GUI thing in the system tray allows you to select from multiples (if you have more). It will take care of Windows routing settings automatically using the redirect-gateway directive. Unless you are using an SSH tunnel to go through, that should be simple. The system is a bit bugged in closing connections, I often have to restart (kill) the program to get it functional again. So it's rather mediocre in terms of user friendliness (this from a very well-known package!) but it does work without problem. There is the option to use either tcp or udp. I believe the default is udp. If for some reason you need tcp, there is a bit of confusion regarding the directive you need; either it is "tcp" or "tcp-client". I think that depends on what your server sets; they have to be the same. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/23/2015 07:55 AM, Xen wrote:
There is the option to use either tcp or udp. I believe the default is udp. If for some reason you need tcp,
The only reason for using tcp is when you have to pass through a firewall that blocks the tunnel. For example, the local library provides free WiFi. However, you can only use a browser on standard ports. You can't even access standard email ports. So, in that situation, you'd have to use TCP port 80 to get out. I used to use openVPN, but it's been a few years since I've needed it. I now run IPv6 and have public addresses for all my computers and I use ssh or imaps for access. My firewall blocks everything else. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On August 22, 2015 10:40:03 PM EDT, Linda Walsh <suse@tlinx.org> wrote:
My parents are having problems w/their computers and I'm hoping I can use the remote desktop feature in Win7 to correct their issues (some of the 3rd party apps that route through 3rd party servers (Teamview) are just so SLOW....
But I was thinking if I can setup a vpn on linux and she can install VPN SW on Windows... then I should be able to get a direct connect. She is able to ping my linux server, but that's all I know as far as connectivity goes.
I've found some openvpn SW for Windows and this setup page: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:OpenVPN_Installation_and_Setup for linux... but am not clear on how to make the win side connect as a network connection (not to mention windows routing is such a pain)...
I got down to past building the DH key... but then they talk about client config -- and I realize at that point it sounds like it is for another linux box...
???
I'm a bit -familiar w/iptables -- and have setup masquerading and using the linux box for local traffic forwarding/connecting...
Does anyone have any experience in this area?
thanks much......
Linda, I haven't read your thread, but for you or others interested in remote desktop'ing to a Windows PC. I wrote a blog post a few months ago that relates. https://lizards.opensuse.org/category/infrastructure-2/ I hope it helps, Greg -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/23/2015 04:40 AM, Linda Walsh wrote:
My parents are having problems w/their computers and I'm hoping I can use the remote desktop feature in Win7 to correct their issues (some of the 3rd party apps that route through 3rd party servers (Teamview) are just so SLOW....
But I was thinking if I can setup a vpn on linux and she can install VPN SW on Windows... then I should be able to get a direct connect. She is able to ping my linux server, but that's all I know as far as connectivity goes.
Does anyone have any experience in this area?
thanks much......
You could install OpenVPN on both side (client and server) and VNC. Don't use graphical tools on Windows for OpenVPN, but copy the configuration file. Here there are : remote <your public IP> ifconfig 192.168.10.1 192.168.10.2 dev tun99 secret "/etc/openvpn/mykey.key" port 1234 dev-type tun comp-lzo keepalive 10 60 ping-timer-rem persist-tun persist-key proto udp float The only differences between server and client : * remove first line from server * swap ifconfig IPs in client and server generate PSK (Pre shared key) key on Linux side : openvpn --genkey --secret <your file> You can find Windows exe at : https://openvpn.net/index.php/download/community-downloads.html Don't forget to open firewall on both side, and to redirect your port on server side in your router. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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