Hello, I was considering downloading the ISO image for 9.3 but I noticed that the 5 CD images are for the pro edition while the DVD image said "eval" version. Is this a typo or is SuSE only offering the pro in CD form? Thanks, Babu __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
On Tuesday 19 July 2005 16:17, babu walad wrote:
Hello,
I was considering downloading the ISO image for 9.3 but I noticed that the 5 CD images are for the pro edition while the DVD image said "eval" version. Is this a typo or is SuSE only offering the pro in CD form?
If you had read README_eval.txt in the iso directory, your question would have been answered: Choose the version you want =========================== * SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 (32-bit version) is available on 5 CD ISO images or on a single DVD ISO image. * SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 (64-bit version) is available on 1 DVD ISO image only. ... What's the difference between the CD and DVD edition ==================================================== * the DVD edition contains the complete 64-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 as well as a streamlined 32bit version of the software. * the CD edition contains a complete 32-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3. It including approximately 450 additional packages not available on the 32-bit version included on the downloadable DVD image. These additional packages are mostly language packages for applications and development versions of various software libraries. -- Homepage http://scottj.org XFce desktop environment http://www.xfce.org Goodies for the XFce desktop http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de GPG public key ID: 811B00AB
Hi Scott, In fact I did read the README and it was confusing. Your explanation is confusing. If I understand the README, there should be 5 CDs for 9.3 pro, one DVD for 9.3 pro, and one DVD for 9.3 live eval. There should be 2 DVD iso images. I see only one. I guess I still don't understand the difference because the label on the C dvs DVD is pro vs. eval. Thanks anyway. Babu --- Scott Jones <scottj.org@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 19 July 2005 16:17, babu walad wrote:
Hello,
I was considering downloading the ISO image for 9.3 but I noticed that the 5 CD images are for the pro edition while the DVD image said "eval" version. Is this a typo or is SuSE only offering the pro in CD form?
If you had read README_eval.txt in the iso directory, your question would have been answered:
Choose the version you want ===========================
* SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 (32-bit version) is available on 5 CD ISO images or on a single DVD ISO image. * SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 (64-bit version) is available on 1 DVD ISO image only.
...
What's the difference between the CD and DVD edition ====================================================
* the DVD edition contains the complete 64-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 as well as a streamlined 32bit version of the software. * the CD edition contains a complete 32-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3. It including approximately 450 additional packages not available on the 32-bit version included on the downloadable DVD image. These additional packages are mostly language packages for applications and development versions of various software libraries.
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babu walad wrote:
Hi Scott,
In fact I did read the README and it was confusing. Your explanation is confusing. If I understand the README, there should be 5 CDs for 9.3 pro, one DVD for 9.3 pro, and one DVD for 9.3 live eval. There should be 2 DVD iso images. I see only one. I guess I still don't understand the difference because the label on the C dvs DVD is pro vs. eval.
The download DVD, like the boxed set DVD contains both 32 & 64 bit versions. However, it contains fewer 32 bit packages than the boxed set DVD. This may be due to fitting it on a single layer DVD, whereas the boxed DVD is dual layer. Regardless of the install source, missing packages can be installed from the mirrors. You can configure Yast to look to one of those mirrors, instead of the CD/DVD, when installing new packages.
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 12:25 -0400, James Knott wrote:
babu walad wrote:
Hi Scott,
In fact I did read the README and it was confusing. Your explanation is confusing. If I understand the README, there should be 5 CDs for 9.3 pro, one DVD for 9.3 pro, and one DVD for 9.3 live eval. There should be 2 DVD iso images. I see only one. I guess I still don't understand the difference because the label on the C dvs DVD is pro vs. eval.
The download DVD, like the boxed set DVD contains both 32 & 64 bit versions. However, it contains fewer 32 bit packages than the boxed set DVD. This may be due to fitting it on a single layer DVD, whereas the boxed DVD is dual layer. Regardless of the install source, missing packages can be installed from the mirrors. You can configure Yast to look to one of those mirrors, instead of the CD/DVD, when installing new packages.
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 16:12 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
From what I have seen about the DVD on Novell's site, it is a parred down version of the boxed 32/64 bit editions. Here are the md5sum and
the DVD size. SUSE-LINUX-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 04d2ebe4e0b8b00bc83cdc180a79e667 4.5 GB A friend has a similar DVD for 9.2. It can install 32 or 64 bit version. Such a CD existed for up to SuSE 6.x, from 7.x they discontinued it. Looks like Novell has resurrected the eval. version from 9.x onwards. http://downloademea.novell.com/Download?buildid=w0eJkmg6Xkw~ Excerpt from above link: SUSE LINUX 9.3 Professional, Installable DVD Evaluation This free offering will enable Linux users to trial the latest open source desktop, server and application functionality that has become the hallmark of the SUSE LINUX consumer distribution. key features * a comprehensive selection of applications to facilitate a wide variety of computing tasks (office suite, email, Internet, picture processing, multimedia and more) plus a subset of packages for advanced users, including key networking and development packages such as SAMBA, Apache Web server, KDevelop, Mono and more. * 32bit and 64bit version * over 1,000 software packages
Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors. Here's a couple of quotes. "Choose the version you want =========================== * SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 (32-bit version) is available on 5 CD ISO images or on a single DVD ISO image. * SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 (64-bit version) is available on 1 DVD ISO image only." and "What's the difference between the CD and DVD edition ==================================================== * the DVD edition contains the complete 64-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 as well as a streamlined 32bit version of the software. * the CD edition contains a complete 32-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3. It including approximately 450 additional packages not available on the 32-bit version included on the downloadable DVD image. These additional packages are mostly language packages for applications and development versions of various software libraries." Also, the DVD ISO is 4.2 GB, which is far more than necessary for a network install.
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 07:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.
Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:41 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 07:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.
Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.
This is the contents of: Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso Name Last modified Size Description ________________________________________________________________________ [DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 - [ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M [TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k [TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k [ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at SuSE forgot to add the file. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:41 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 07:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.
Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.
This is the contents of:
Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 - [ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M [TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k [TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k [ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at SuSE forgot to add the file.
In another note, I posted a link to a mirror that contains what I described.
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:40 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:41 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 07:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.
Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.
This is the contents of:
Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 - [ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M [TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k [TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k [ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at SuSE forgot to add the file.
In another note, I posted a link to a mirror that contains what I described.
Yes as you can see the "eval" iso is there, but the OP was looking for a 64 bit install DVD iso which IS missing. Quoted from the "eval-DVD" text file * When delivered on 5 CD ISOs, SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 requires 5 separate downloads of 650MB each, 3.3GB in total) * When delivered on a single DVD ISO, SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 required one download of 4.5 GB Where is the 4.5 GB file that is supposed to be used as a 64 bit -install- DVD? No where, it is missing. The text file even quotes estimated download times for the iso's. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:40 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:41 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 07:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.
Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.
This is the contents of:
Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 - [ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M [TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k [TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k [ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at SuSE forgot to add the file.
In another note, I posted a link to a mirror that contains what I described.
Yes as you can see the "eval" iso is there, but the OP was looking for a 64 bit install DVD iso which IS missing. Quoted from the "eval-DVD" text file
* When delivered on 5 CD ISOs, SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 requires 5 separate downloads of 650MB each, 3.3GB in total) * When delivered on a single DVD ISO, SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 required one download of 4.5 GB
Where is the 4.5 GB file that is supposed to be used as a 64 bit -install- DVD? No where, it is missing. The text file even quotes estimated download times for the iso's.
Others have also replied to your posts. One thing that's obvious, is that you're apparently the only one who can't see that 4.2 GB ISO.
A while back I was downloading the EVAL DVD ISO. The size and date changed twice on the ftp.suse.com site. It was different on different US mirrors at the same time. Could it be the iso has been getting changed by whomever uploads to the mirrors. The LIVE iso also was broken on 2 of three downloads. I believe that someone was making mischief or fixing bugs or something. Allen ---- Address: Allen Wilkinson (phone) (216) 382-7613 1036 Pembrook Road (work) (216) 433-2075 Cleveland Heights, OH 44121 USA (INTERNET) aw(at)apk(dot)net +++++++ "Pluralism is the belief that all people have reasons for their beliefs. We ought to assume, until proven otherwise, that the stranger conducts her business on grounds that seem perfectly reasonable to her, and that she is capable of explaining this to us. We ought to realize that our own reasoning, like everyone else's, is fallible and unfinished." Author Unknown On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:40 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:41 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 07:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
>There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is >for network install only. > Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.
Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.
This is the contents of:
Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 - [ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M [TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k [TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k [ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at SuSE forgot to add the file.
In another note, I posted a link to a mirror that contains what I described.
Yes as you can see the "eval" iso is there, but the OP was looking for a 64 bit install DVD iso which IS missing. Quoted from the "eval-DVD" text file
* When delivered on 5 CD ISOs, SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 requires 5 separate downloads of 650MB each, 3.3GB in total) * When delivered on a single DVD ISO, SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 required one download of 4.5 GB
Where is the 4.5 GB file that is supposed to be used as a 64 bit -install- DVD? No where, it is missing. The text file even quotes estimated download times for the iso's.
Others have also replied to your posts. One thing that's obvious, is that you're apparently the only one who can't see that 4.2 GB ISO.
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James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:41 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 07:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.
Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.
This is the contents of:
Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 - [ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M [TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k [TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k [ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at SuSE forgot to add the file.
In another note, I posted a link to a mirror that contains what I described.
*ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/ (New York, Buffalo)* * DVD ISO image (32bit + 64bit, 4,3 GB) <ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso> * md5 sum <ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/MD5SUMS> * CD ISO image 1 (32bit, 696 MB) <ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso> * md5 sums <ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/MD5SUMS> * CD ISO image 2 (32bit, 676 MB) <ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso> * CD ISO image 3 (32bit, 697 MB) <ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso> * CD ISO image 4 (32bit, 669 MB) <ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso> * CD ISO image 5 (32bit, 681 MB) <ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso> -- Hans hanskrueger@adelphia.net
On Thursday 21 July 2005 13:54, Ken Schneider wrote:
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at SuSE forgot to add the file.
Could be that whatever you are using to look at that is reporting the wrong size. Using Firefox 1.0.6: Index of ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso Up to higher level directory Directory: 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 06/29/2005 02:06:00 PM File: MD5SUMS 1 KB 07/19/2005 10:53:00 AM File: README_eval.txt 6 KB 06/29/2005 12:02:00 PM File: SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 4383158 KB 07/01/2005 09:27:00 AM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 712356 KB 07/01/2005 09:27:00 AM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 692028 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 713926 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 685280 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 697104 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM Using ncftp: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/9.3/iso/ ncftp ....com/suse/i386/9.3/iso > ls -lh -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 104 Jul 2 20:49 .gwdg-mirror lrwxrwxrwx 1 emoenke ftp 16 Jun 30 12:02 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso -> ../boot/boot.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 361 Jul 1 09:40 MD5SUMS -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 5.6k Jun 29 12:02 README_eval.txt -rw------- 1 65534 ftp 4.2G Jul 1 09:27 SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 696M Jul 1 09:27 SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 676M Jun 27 12:10 SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 697M Jun 27 12:10 SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 669M Jun 27 12:10 SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 681M Jun 27 12:10 SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:45 -0500, Scott Jones wrote:
On Thursday 21 July 2005 13:54, Ken Schneider wrote:
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at SuSE forgot to add the file.
Could be that whatever you are using to look at that is reporting the wrong size.
Using Firefox 1.0.6:
Index of ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso Up to higher level directory Directory: 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 06/29/2005 02:06:00 PM File: MD5SUMS 1 KB 07/19/2005 10:53:00 AM File: README_eval.txt 6 KB 06/29/2005 12:02:00 PM File: SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 4383158 KB 07/01/2005 09:27:00 AM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 712356 KB 07/01/2005 09:27:00 AM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 692028 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 713926 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 685280 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 697104 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM
I am using Firefox 1.0.4 and shows the file as 184M just as I stated in an earlier post. Perhaps there is a problem with the version of Firefox that shipped with SuSE 9.3. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Ken Schneider wrote:
I am using Firefox 1.0.4 and shows the file as 184M just as I stated in an earlier post. Perhaps there is a problem with the version of Firefox that shipped with SuSE 9.3.
Both Mozilla & Konqueror in 9.3 show a 4.2 GB file.
DVD ISO is not only 184MB, it's 4.5GB you need to update your ftp client to recognise large files! On 7/21/05, Ken Schneider <suse-list@bout-tyme.net> wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:41 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 07:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.
Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.
This is the contents of:
Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 - [ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M [TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k [TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k [ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at SuSE forgot to add the file.
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On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 21:53 +0200, Jie Li wrote:
DVD ISO is not only 184MB, it's 4.5GB you need to update your ftp client to recognise large files!
I wasn't aware the Firefox was an FTP client. And please do not top post. It tells me someone is to lazy to edit their response and put their answer after the part they are responding to. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 18:53 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 21:53 +0200, Jie Li wrote:
DVD ISO is not only 184MB, it's 4.5GB you need to update your ftp client to recognise large files!
I wasn't aware the Firefox was an FTP client. And please do not top post. It tells me someone is to lazy to edit their response and put their answer after the part they are responding to.
Just tried something different. I usually use http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3 to look at the contents (notice http instead of ftp) because it is much faster to browse around. When I used ftp:// instead of http:// the correct sizes show. Perhaps this is a bug in mozilla/firefox/konquerer that needs to be fixed. All three show the file as 184M when using http:// to browse and shows 4383158 KB for mozilla/firefox and 4.2 GB for konquerer when using ftp:// -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 19:08 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
Just tried something different. I usually use http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3 to look at the contents (notice http instead of ftp) because it is much faster to browse around. When I used ftp:// instead of http:// the correct sizes show. Perhaps this is a bug in mozilla/firefox/konquerer that needs to be fixed. All three show the file as 184M when using http:// to browse and shows 4383158 KB for mozilla/firefox and 4.2 GB for konquerer when using ftp://
This is not an issue with the clients... it's a problem with the http protocol (or perhaps Apache). It has issues with large files. I don't recall the limit, but I'd assume anything larger that 1GB or so isn't going to display the correct size. -Dan
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Schneider" <suse-list@bout-tyme.net>
Just tried something different. I usually use http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3 to look at the contents (notice http instead of ftp) because it is much faster to browse around. When I used ftp:// instead of http:// the correct sizes show. Perhaps this is a bug in mozilla/firefox/konquerer that needs to be fixed. All three show the file as 184M when using http:// to browse and shows 4383158 KB for mozilla/firefox and 4.2 GB for konquerer when using ftp://
Ken, We all have those days. And when it happens, I've always found crow tastes a little better with salt...... Keep the faith. And, for the record, I haven't seen the 64bit iso either... -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN LAW FIRM, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com --
Ken Schneider <suse-list@bout-tyme.net> [21 Jul 2005 19:08:51 -0400]:
Perhaps this is a bug in mozilla/firefox/konquerer that needs to be fixed. All three show the file as 184M when using http:// to browse and shows 4383158 KB for mozilla/firefox and 4.2 GB for konquerer when using ftp://
That's because apache doesn't support files larger than 2 GB. Philipp
Ken Schneider <suse-list@bout-tyme.net> writes:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 18:53 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 21:53 +0200, Jie Li wrote:
DVD ISO is not only 184MB, it's 4.5GB you need to update your ftp client to recognise large files!
I wasn't aware the Firefox was an FTP client. And please do not top post. It tells me someone is to lazy to edit their response and put their answer after the part they are responding to.
Just tried something different. I usually use http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3 to look at the contents (notice http instead of ftp) because it is much faster to browse around. When I used ftp:// instead of http:// the correct sizes show. Perhaps this is a bug in mozilla/firefox/konquerer that needs to be fixed. All three show the file as 184M when using http:// to browse and shows 4383158 KB for mozilla/firefox and 4.2 GB for konquerer when using ftp://
No, a bug in apache - in cannot show files larger than 2 GB, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 11:44 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Ken Schneider <suse-list@bout-tyme.net> writes:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 18:53 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 21:53 +0200, Jie Li wrote:
DVD ISO is not only 184MB, it's 4.5GB you need to update your ftp client to recognise large files!
I wasn't aware the Firefox was an FTP client. And please do not top post. It tells me someone is to lazy to edit their response and put their answer after the part they are responding to.
Just tried something different. I usually use http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3 to look at the contents (notice http instead of ftp) because it is much faster to browse around. When I used ftp:// instead of http:// the correct sizes show. Perhaps this is a bug in mozilla/firefox/konquerer that needs to be fixed. All three show the file as 184M when using http:// to browse and shows 4383158 KB for mozilla/firefox and 4.2 GB for konquerer when using ftp://
No, a bug in apache - in cannot show files larger than 2 GB,
Andreas
You would think that since filesystems have supported files larger than 2 GB for a long time that the folks at apache would have started to as well. I'll see want I can stir up at apache.org. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Ken Schneider <suse-list@bout-tyme.net> [Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:26]:
You would think that since filesystems have supported files larger than 2 GB for a long time that the folks at apache would have started to as well.
Apache has optional support, but currently that would change the apache API, making it incompatible with modules that were compiled against standard apache. AFAIR, 2.2 will have full support for LFS. Philipp
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 21:53 +0200, Jie Li wrote:
DVD ISO is not only 184MB, it's 4.5GB you need to update your ftp client to recognise large files!
I wasn't aware the Firefox was an FTP client. And please do not top post. It tells me someone is to lazy to edit their response and put their answer after the part they are responding to.
Most browsers can access ftp sites.
On Thursday, July 21, 2005 @ 10:54 AM, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:41 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 07:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.
Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.
This is the contents of:
Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 - [ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M [TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k [TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k [ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M [ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at SuSE forgot to add the file.
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Ken: When I go here, I see a DVD ISO that is 3.99 GB in size. ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/ Greg Wallace
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 19:08 -0800, Greg Wallace wrote:
Ken:
When I go here, I see a DVD ISO that is 3.99 GB in size.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
Greg Wallace
Yes but when you go here you see the iso as 184M. http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/ There appears to be a problem in the way apache displays the size as any browser that I use shows the same results. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Friday, July 22, 2005 @ 8:17 -0400 AM, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 19:08 -0800, Greg Wallace wrote:
Ken:
When I go here, I see a DVD ISO that is 3.99 GB in size.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
Greg Wallace
Yes but when you go here you see the iso as 184M.
There appears to be a problem in the way apache displays the size as any browser that I use shows the same results.
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Yeah, I saw those earlier posts. Sounds like maybe Apache is moving the size number to a display work area that is too small and is therefore truncating high-order bits? Greg Wallace
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 04:27 -0800, Greg Wallace wrote:
On Friday, July 22, 2005 @ 8:17 -0400 AM, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 19:08 -0800, Greg Wallace wrote:
Ken:
When I go here, I see a DVD ISO that is 3.99 GB in size.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
Greg Wallace
Yes but when you go here you see the iso as 184M.
There appears to be a problem in the way apache displays the size as any browser that I use shows the same results.
Yeah, I saw those earlier posts. Sounds like maybe Apache is moving the size number to a display work area that is too small and is therefore truncating high-order bits?
Greg Wallace
The other strange thing though is if you go here: http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.2/iso/ you see the DVD iso size shown correctly, I think. Which is why I thought there was no DVD iso for 9.3. Very strange indeed. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Friday, July 22, 2005 @ 4:28 AM I wrote:
On Friday, July 22, 2005 @ 8:17 -0400 AM, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 19:08 -0800, Greg Wallace wrote:
Ken:
When I go here, I see a DVD ISO that is 3.99 GB in size.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
Greg Wallace
Yes but when you go here you see the iso as 184M.
There appears to be a problem in the way apache displays the size as any browser that I use shows the same results.
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Yeah, I saw those earlier posts. Sounds like maybe Apache is moving the size number to a display work area that is too small and is therefore truncating high-order bits?
Greg Wallace
And maybe need to add ELSE IF SIZE > 1073741824 THEN DISP_SIZE := size / 1073741824; RPT_SIZE := DISP_SIZE || 'G'; END IF; END IF; Greg Wallace
On Friday, July 22, 2005 @ 4:28 AM I wrote:
On Friday, July 22, 2005 @ 4:28 AM I wrote:
On Friday, July 22, 2005 @ 8:17 -0400 AM, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 19:08 -0800, Greg Wallace wrote:
Ken:
When I go here, I see a DVD ISO that is 3.99 GB in size.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
Greg Wallace
Yes but when you go here you see the iso as 184M.
There appears to be a problem in the way apache displays the size as any browser that I use shows the same results.
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Yeah, I saw those earlier posts. Sounds like maybe Apache is moving the size number to a display work area that is too small and is therefore truncating high-order bits?
Greg Wallace
And maybe need to add
ELSE IF SIZE > 1073741824 THEN DISP_SIZE := size / 1073741824; RPT_SIZE := DISP_SIZE || 'G'; END IF; END IF;
Greg Wallace
Of course, it is an Apache 1 server. I would hope Apache 2 would display that correctly. Greg W
Ken Schneider <suse-list@bout-tyme.net> writes:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:41 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 07:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.
Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and
Ken, there should be an ISO and there's on on ftp.suse.com
the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.
In that case your ftp client/browser is broken. With firefox from 9.3 I see: Index of ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso Up to higher level directory Directory: 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 06/29/2005 02:06:00 PM File: MD5SUMS 1 KB 07/19/2005 10:53:00 AM File: README_eval.txt 6 KB 06/29/2005 12:02:00 PM File: SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 4383158 KB 07/01/2005 09:27:00 AM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 712356 KB 07/01/2005 09:27:00 AM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 692028 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 713926 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 685280 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 697104 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM Note that not every mirror might have the DVD iso, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 07:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.
Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.
Please take a look here: ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso Now tell me what the file "SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso" is for. While you're at it, read the "README_eval.txt" file, which is immediately above the ISO. Perhaps the mirror you're looking at is missing a few files.
On Thursday 21 July 2005 20:41, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 07:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Ken Schneider wrote:
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is for network install only.
Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.
You might want to check the mirror you are using.. I found it at ftp.gwdg.de. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 9.3 Kernel 2.6.11 KDE 3.4.0 Kmail 1.8 For Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 10:03pm up 1 day 2:28, 3 users, load average: 2.47, 2.35, 2.44
On Tuesday, July 19, 2005 @ 1:17 PM, babu walad wrote:
Hello,
I was considering downloading the ISO image for 9.3 but I noticed that the 5 CD images are for the pro edition while the DVD image said "eval" version. Is this a typo or is SuSE only offering the pro in CD form?
Thanks,
Babu
The DVD in the boxed set has all of the packages. The downloadable DVD is missing some. The boxed set DVD also has more packages than the CDs, which have the same number of packages in the boxed set as in the downloadable version. Greg Wallace
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