Hello SuSE people Running 8.2, KDE 3.2.3 and arts 1.2.3 Have written several messages to this list (under different headers) for the past couple of months at least trying to sort this out. I continually get the message "couldn't open audio device" Example: I can have a playlist of CD tracks and mp3's in xmms. The CD tracks will play fine. When it comes to an mp3 which is next in the playlist I get that message FYI, I have gone into the KDE control center and have tried to disable arts or alter the time it should run. No change. arts does what it wants to do. I continue to have this problem no matter what I do. Have followed the advice of many and still cannot solve the problem. My conclusion was that I have a flaky arts. Went and searched/found an rpm that duplicates what is installed. (No newer version that I know of) and downloaded it. Had to "force" it because I already had that version. No change! Maybe it is the soundcard? (Soundblaster -Ensoniq Audio PCI ENS 1370) I am at my wit's end to solve this problem. I will do any and/or crazy suggestions or supply any info requested to make this problem go away. Thanks for any or all help. Bob S.
On Thursday 05 August 2004 11:03 pm, Bob S. wrote:
I continually get the message "couldn't open audio device" Example: I can have a playlist of CD tracks and mp3's in xmms. The CD tracks will play fine. When it comes to an mp3 which is next in the playlist I get that message
FYI, I have gone into the KDE control center and have tried to disable arts or alter the time it should run. No change. arts does what it wants to do.
What plugins are enabled for xmms? All the input plugins should be enabled, as well as (only) the artsd output plugin. Also, you said the cd tracks play fine, but the next mp3 fails with a message. Does mp3 Always fail?, or only if preceeded with a cd track? As for arts, take the defaults in kde, the only thing I might do is set the arts timeout to something like 5 seconds. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Friday 06 August 2004 04:03 am, John Andersen wrote:
On Thursday 05 August 2004 11:03 pm, Bob S. wrote:
I continually get the message "couldn't open audio device" Example: I can have a playlist of CD tracks and mp3's in xmms. The CD tracks will play fine. When it comes to an mp3 which is next in the playlist I get that message
FYI, I have gone into the KDE control center and have tried to disable arts or alter the time it should run. No change. arts does what it wants to do.
What plugins are enabled for xmms? All the input plugins should be enabled, as well as (only) the artsd output plugin.
Hello John, thanks for replying. I have 7 different [lugins including wav, ogg, mpeg, etc. The output is oss driver 1.2.7 (There are two other choices for plugins, esound & diskwriter)
Also, you said the cd tracks play fine, but the next mp3 fails with a message.
Does mp3 Always fail?, or only if preceeded with a cd track?
To clarify; It will play an mp3 If I immediately precede that by doing a kill on artsd. That is also true of other sound formats.
As for arts, take the defaults in kde, the only thing I might do is set the arts timeout to something like 5 seconds.
Have done that many times, all the way down to 1 second. It does not quit. I can sit and watch top for 5 or 10 minutes and it just keeps on running and building cpu usage until the system starts to slow down. Then I have to kill it to get my machine back. Now to be sure I am doing this correctly, I go to Control Center - Sound and Multimedia - Autosuspend - Correct? Bob S.
On Friday 06 August 2004 09:06 pm, Bob S. wrote:
On Friday 06 August 2004 04:03 am, John Andersen wrote:
On Thursday 05 August 2004 11:03 pm, Bob S. wrote:
I continually get the message "couldn't open audio device" Example: I can have a playlist of CD tracks and mp3's in xmms. The CD tracks will play fine. When it comes to an mp3 which is next in the playlist I get that message
FYI, I have gone into the KDE control center and have tried to disable arts or alter the time it should run. No change. arts does what it wants to do.
What plugins are enabled for xmms? All the input plugins should be enabled, as well as (only) the artsd output plugin.
Hello John, thanks for replying.
I have 7 different [lugins including wav, ogg, mpeg, etc. The output is oss driver 1.2.7 (There are two other choices for plugins, esound & diskwriter)
Ah, you need to add libcdread and/or libcdaudio . The former is often needed for laptops where manufacturers do not always wire the cd player's audio to the sound card. (It reads it digitally). Actually enable EVERY input plug in. Your output driver is oss, so its not going thru arts. I would look for and install arts-xmms (libarts.so) and use it as the output plugin.
Also, you said the cd tracks play fine, but the next mp3 fails with a message.
Does mp3 Always fail?, or only if preceeded with a cd track?
To clarify; It will play an mp3 If I immediately precede that by doing a kill on artsd. That is also true of other sound formats.
Because your xmms is trying to use oss (obsolete) rather than libarts for its output plugin. Notice that this can be made to work by going into the KDE control center, Sound system, and set autosuspend if idle for 5 seconds. This makes arts get out of the way so that oss can have the sound system. However, this is sub-optimal, because any other sounds (email arriving, etc) will not be heard when oss has the sound card. If you get everything going thru arts it will multiplex the sound so it all works at the same time.
As for arts, take the defaults in kde, the only thing I might do is set the arts timeout to something like 5 seconds.
Have done that many times, all the way down to 1 second. It does not quit. I can sit and watch top for 5 or 10 minutes and it just keeps on running and building cpu usage until the system starts to slow down. Then I have to kill it to get my machine back.
Turn off full duplex (in the sound/multimedia hardware tab). Some hardware does not like that. Disable networked sound, enable realtime priority.
Now to be sure I am doing this correctly, I go to Control Center - Sound and Multimedia - Autosuspend - Correct? Yup. thats the place. If KDE does not restart the sound system for you, run rcartsd restart as root in a console. But KDE should restart it for you.
-- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Saturday 07 August 2004 02:53 am, John Andersen wrote: ...........<snip all previous>.....
Hello John, thanks for replying.
I have 7 different [lugins including wav, ogg, mpeg, etc. The output is oss driver 1.2.7 (There are two other choices for plugins, esound & diskwriter)
Ah, you need to add libcdread and/or libcdaudio . The former is often needed for laptops where manufacturers do not always wire the cd player's audio to the sound card. (It reads it digitally).
libcdaudio and libcdread are installed in /xmms/input and show up in the input list
Actually enable EVERY input plug in.
Your output driver is oss, so its not going thru arts. I would look for and install arts-xmms (libarts.so) and use it as the output plugin.
Must have spent two hours searching suse & google for arts-xmms. Although there were lots of instances there was nothing SuSE specific and no sources. The xmms site had a plugin group for download but I don't want all that extra garbage and not even sure the arts-xmms was in it. In /opt/kde3/lib/ I have a libartsc.so Note the extra letter c in the file. Could this be the arts output plugin? and if so how do I make xmms see it?
Also, you said the cd tracks play fine, but the next mp3 fails with a message.
Does mp3 Always fail?, or only if preceeded with a cd track?
To clarify; It will play an mp3 If I immediately precede that by doing a kill on artsd. That is also true of other sound formats.
Because your xmms is trying to use oss (obsolete) rather than libarts for its output plugin. Notice that this can be made to work by going into the KDE control center, Sound system, and set autosuspend if idle for 5 seconds. This makes arts get out of the way so that oss can have the sound system.
OK, I hear you. Problem is that arts REFUSES to get out of the way and continues to run and run forever until I manually kill it.
However, this is sub-optimal, because any other sounds (email arriving, etc) will not be heard when oss has the sound card. If you get everything going thru arts it will multiplex the sound so it all works at the same time.
As for arts, take the defaults in kde, the only thing I might do is set the arts timeout to something like 5 seconds.
OK restarted the sound multimedia and set it for 5 seconds.
Have done that many times, all the way down to 1 second. It does not quit. I can sit and watch top for 5 or 10 minutes and it just keeps on running and building cpu usage until the system starts to slow down. Then I have to kill it to get my machine back.
Turn off full duplex (in the sound/multimedia hardware tab). Some hardware does not like that. Disable networked sound, enable realtime priority.
OK did that again also.
Now, I don't know if the libartsc.so is the one I need for the output, and if not, can someone point me to a usable arts-xms/ Thanks again, Bob S.
On 9 Aug 2004, usr@sanctum.com wrote:
can someone point me to a usable arts-xms/
http://havardk.xmms.org/plugins/arts_output/ Charles -- linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste (ksh@cis.ufl.edu put this on Tshirts in '93)
On Monday 09 August 2004 02:01 am, Charles Phlip Chan wrote:
On 9 Aug 2004, usr@sanctum.com wrote:
can someone point me to a usable arts-xms/
Charles, & others, Thanks for the info. Went and downloaded the tar file. Trying to install it but am not very good (clueless) about setting paths for install by ./configure. Unpacked everything and tried to compile with ./configure. Got the following error message. --------------------------------------------- checking for glib-config... no checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.0... no *** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found *** If GLIB was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the GLIB_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to glib-config. configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.0 not installed - please install first* -------------------------------------------------------------- PREFIX/bin ??? I have glib-2.0 installed. I can't make the compiler find the glib-config file. Completely lost here. Little procedural help here? Please? Bob S.
On Thursday 12 August 2004 08:50, Bob S. wrote:
--------------------------------------------- checking for glib-config... no checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.0... no *** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found
When compiling and you get an error like this (and you know you've got it installed), it usually means to install the -devel package. glib-devel is what you need. Joe
On Thursday 12 August 2004 07:40 pm, Joe Sullivan wrote:
On Thursday 12 August 2004 08:50, Bob S. wrote:
--------------------------------------------- checking for glib-config... no checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.0... no *** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found
When compiling and you get an error like this (and you know you've got it installed), it usually means to install the -devel package. glib-devel is what you need.
Thanks for responding Joe, That got me past the first one, then it was gtk-devel, now it wants arts-devel and that is installed. What is PREFIX/bin ?? I don't understand what it is asking for, as per following. *** If aRts was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the ARTSC_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to artsc-config. Sure would appreciate the additional help. Maybe someday I will understand all of this. Bob S. Might not be able to respond for a few days. Hurricane Charley is bearing down on me. (Tampa Florida)
Bob S. writes:
... What is PREFIX/bin ?? I don't understand what it is asking for, as per following.
*** If aRts was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the ARTSC_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to artsc-config.
PREFIX is simply the path that you want everything to be installed under. The default of PREFIX is usually /usr/local (so that PREFIX/bin would be /usr/local/bin), but if you want it to be in /usr/bin, then set PREFIX to /usr. This is done in the configure phase of the build process. E.g., ./configure --prefix=/usr PREFIX is also used to set other paths, such as PREFIX/lib, PREFIX/share... if the program makes use of those. -Ti
On Friday 13 August 2004 01:01 am, Ti Kan wrote:
Bob S. writes:
... What is PREFIX/bin ?? I don't understand what it is asking for, as per following.
*** If aRts was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the ARTSC_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to artsc-config.
PREFIX is simply the path that you want everything to be installed under. The default of PREFIX is usually /usr/local (so that PREFIX/bin would be /usr/local/bin), but if you want it to be in /usr/bin, then set PREFIX to /usr. This is done in the configure phase of the build process. E.g.,
./configure --prefix=/usr
PREFIX is also used to set other paths, such as PREFIX/lib, PREFIX/share... if the program makes use of those.
Ti, Charles, John, Joe, etc. Thanks for all of the help and explanation provided. This is a great list. Finally got the arts_output installed. Had to do it from the CLI though. Ti, Thanks for the explanation. Appreciated. Learning every day Bob S.
On Saturday 14 Aug 2004 05:28, Bob S. wrote:
On Friday 13 August 2004 01:01 am, Ti Kan wrote:
Bob S. writes:
... What is PREFIX/bin ?? I don't understand what it is asking for, as per following.
*** If aRts was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in *** your path, or set the ARTSC_CONFIG environment variable to the *** full path to artsc-config.
PREFIX is simply the path that you want everything to be installed under. The default of PREFIX is usually /usr/local (so that PREFIX/bin would be /usr/local/bin), but if you want it to be in /usr/bin, then set PREFIX to /usr. This is done in the configure phase of the build process. E.g.,
./configure --prefix=/usr
PREFIX is also used to set other paths, such as PREFIX/lib, PREFIX/share... if the program makes use of those.
Ti, Charles, John, Joe, etc.
Thanks for all of the help and explanation provided. This is a great list. Finally got the arts_output installed. Had to do it from the CLI though.
Ti, Thanks for the explanation. Appreciated. Learning every day
Bob S.
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