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Felix Miata

6 Jan 2007 6 Jan '07

04:38

I just installed XP and 10.2 on a Dell GX150 PIII 833, which has onboard audio. KDE InfoCenter shows the sound driver is ALSA for Intel 82801BA-ICH2. XP sound works nicely. 10.2 sound is about 10% (at most) of the volume level of XP, and has a loud hum if I turn the volume up enough to actually hear anything. Is there some sort of sound volume initialization procedure that needs to be done to get acceptable output? It seems like I hit this long ago but don't remember anything about it. :-( -- "I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." John 10:10 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Charles philip Chan

6 Jan 6 Jan

05:04

On 5 Jan 2007, mrmazda@ij.net wrote:

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10.2 sound is about 10% (at most) of the volume level of XP, and has a loud hum if I turn the volume up enough to actually hear anything.

Check your PCM volume. Charles -- /* When we have more time, we can teach the penguin to say * "By your command" or "Activating turbo boost, Michael". */ linux-2.2.16/arch/sparc/prom/sun4prom.c

Felix Miata

06:04

On 2007/01/06 00:04 (GMT-0500) Charles philip Chan apparently typed:

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On 5 Jan 2007, mrmazda@ij.net wrote:

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10.2 sound is about 10% (at most) of the volume level of XP, and has a loud hum if I turn the volume up enough to actually hear anything.

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Check your PCM volume.

Thanks. That was around 60-66%. I turned it all the way up. That made a big improvement. After also turning everything else up all the way, I have to guess the output level and quality are now up to about 1/3 of XP. I give a grade of B+ to XP, D to SUSE. Is there anything else to dial it up more? -- "I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." John 10:10 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Charles philip Chan

06:33

On 6 Jan 2007, mrmazda@ij.net wrote:

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Thanks. That was around 60-66%. I turned it all the way up. That made a big improvement. After also turning everything else up all the way, I have to guess the output level and quality are now up to about 1/3 of XP. I give a grade of B+ to XP, D to SUSE. Is there anything else to dial it up more?

Judging from the other reply you got, it seem to be a problem with SuSE ALSA install. I use the bleeding edge version from the ALSA site so I haven't seen this problem. You will either have to wait for a fix or compile it yourself. Charles -- "The world is beating a path to our door" -- Bruce Perens, (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)

Basil Chupin

06:39

Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2007/01/06 00:04 (GMT-0500) Charles philip Chan apparently typed:

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10.2 sound is about 10% (at most) of the volume level of XP, and has a loud hum if I turn the volume up enough to actually hear anything.

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Check your PCM volume.

Thanks. That was around 60-66%. I turned it all the way up. That made a big improvement. After also turning everything else up all the way, I have to guess the output level and quality are now up to about 1/3 of XP. I give a grade of B+ to XP, D to SUSE. Is there anything else to dial it up more?

Do you have alsamixergui installed? If not then do so, run it and make sure that LINE is activated (ie, click on it, bottom, and after it turns grey use the up-arrow to increase the level). Might as well check all the other levels while you have the mixer opened. Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

07:26

On 2007/01/06 17:39 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin apparently typed:

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10.2 sound is about 10% (at most) of the volume level of XP, and has a loud hum if I turn the volume up enough to actually hear anything.

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Check your PCM volume.

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Thanks. That was around 60-66%. I turned it all the way up. That made a big improvement. After also turning everything else up all the way, I have to guess the output level and quality are now up to about 1/3 of XP. I give a grade of B+ to XP, D to SUSE. Is there anything else to dial it up more?

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Do you have alsamixergui installed?

I do now. :-)

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If not then do so, run it and make sure that LINE is activated (ie, click on it, bottom, and after it turns grey use the up-arrow to increase the level). Might as well check all the other levels while you have the mixer opened.

Changing Line had no effect, but Head.. (3rd from left) did. Both Head.. and PCM need to be at or near the top. Now the difference between Linux & XP isn't enough to fuss about. Problem solved. :-) -- "I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." John 10:10 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

07:34

Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2007/01/06 17:39 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin apparently typed:

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On 5 Jan 2007, mrmazda@ij.net wrote:

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10.2 sound is about 10% (at most) of the volume level of XP, and has a loud hum if I turn the volume up enough to actually hear anything.

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Check your PCM volume.

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Thanks. That was around 60-66%. I turned it all the way up. That made a big improvement. After also turning everything else up all the way, I have to guess the output level and quality are now up to about 1/3 of XP. I give a grade of B+ to XP, D to SUSE. Is there anything else to dial it up more?

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Do you have alsamixergui installed?

I do now. :-)

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If not then do so, run it and make sure that LINE is activated (ie, click on it, bottom, and after it turns grey use the up-arrow to increase the level). Might as well check all the other levels while you have the mixer opened.

Changing Line had no effect, but Head.. (3rd from left) did. Both Head.. and PCM need to be at or near the top. Now the difference between Linux & XP isn't enough to fuss about. Problem solved. :-)

:-) Good! Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

07:45

Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2007/01/06 17:39 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin apparently typed:

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If not then do so, run it and make sure that LINE is activated (ie, click on it, bottom, and after it turns grey use the up-arrow to increase the level). Might as well check all the other levels while you have the mixer opened.

Changing Line had no effect, but Head.. (3rd from left) did. Both Head.. and PCM need to be at or near the top. Now the difference between Linux & XP isn't enough to fuss about. Problem solved. :-)

Forgot to add: I wouldn't put (any) levels to be at the top - near the top OK but not all the way to the top. Being at the top would lead to sound distortion. I put mine to be 97% at the most. Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

15:41

On 2007/01/06 18:45 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin apparently typed:

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Felix Miata wrote:

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Changing Line had no effect, but Head.. (3rd from left) did. Both Head.. and PCM need to be at or near the top. Now the difference between Linux & XP isn't enough to fuss about. Problem solved. :-)

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Forgot to add: I wouldn't put (any) levels to be at the top - near the top OK but not all the way to the top. Being at the top would lead to sound distortion. I put mine to be 97% at the most.

What I actually settled on was about 85% for both Head.. and PCM. There is no DAC and master has no effect. I'm only using the green jack. The blue one seems to never output anything in doz or linux. -- "I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." John 10:10 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Charles philip Chan

07:56

On 6 Jan 2007, mrmazda@ij.net wrote:

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Changing Line had no effect, but Head.. (3rd from left) did. Both Head.. and PCM need to be at or near the top. Now the difference between Linux & XP isn't enough to fuss about. Problem solved. :-)

Strange. I am not at all sure why uping the headphones volume on your card changes the quaility of the sound of your speaker output. This is a mystery. Charles

Charles philip Chan

08:01

On 6 Jan 2007, cpchan@sympatico.ca wrote:

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Strange. I am not at all sure why uping the headphones volume on your card changes the quaility of the sound of your speaker output. This is a mystery.

Oops, I just realize that you must have been listening through headphones and not speakers. :-) Charles -- die_if_kernel("Penguin instruction from Penguin mode??!?!", regs); linux-2.2.16/arch/sparc/kernel/traps.c

Felix Miata

15:37

On 2007/01/06 03:01 (GMT-0500) Charles philip Chan apparently typed:

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On 6 Jan 2007, cpchan@sympatico.ca wrote:

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Strange. I am not at all sure why uping the headphones volume on your card changes the quaility of the sound of your speaker output. This is a mystery.

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Oops, I just realize that you must have been listening through headphones and not speakers. :-)

No sound from the blue port in either doz or linux. Green port is fed to my A/V amp. -- "I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." John 10:10 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jan Engelhardt

14:25

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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:04:48 -0500 From: Felix Miata Reply-To: opensuse@opensuse.org To: suse-linux-e@suse.com

Stop using suse-linux-e, kthx!

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10.2 sound is about 10% (at most) of the volume level of XP, and has a loud hum if I turn the volume up enough to actually hear anything.

Check your PCM volume.

Thanks. That was around 60-66%. I turned it all the way up. That made a big improvement. After also turning everything else up all the way, I have to guess the output level and quality are now up to about 1/3 of XP. I give a grade of B+ to XP, D to SUSE. Is there anything else to dial it up more?

My cs46xx for example has a "DAC" control in alsamixer, which also affects volume, so my volume is basically regulared by something like: output = DAC * Master * PCM; Sliding PCM beyond a certain percentage may give distortions (I don't mean humming), hence you may want to reduce PCM and instead raise Master. If you have a volume control on your speakers, try raising that and lower the volumes in Windows so they are equal. -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Robert Lewis

05:51

Felix Miata wrote:

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I just installed XP and 10.2 on a Dell GX150 PIII 833, which has onboard audio. KDE InfoCenter shows the sound driver is ALSA for Intel 82801BA-ICH2. XP sound works nicely. 10.2 sound is about 10% (at most) of the volume level of XP, and has a loud hum if I turn the volume up enough to actually hear anything. Is there some sort of sound volume initialization procedure that needs to be done to get acceptable output? It seems like I hit this long ago but don't remember anything about it. :-(

Ever since 10.2 my volume on a new HP laptop has been very very low compared to XP. I recently compiled and installed the beta drivers from the ALSA site and the volume is now normal although my microphone doesn't work. It looks like this is a known problem and is being worked on. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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