[opensuse] Evolution password prompting and Keyring manager problems
OK, I think this is a new development. I didn't notice it before. Even though I have checked the "Remember Password" option on my email account in Evolution, it always prompts me for it, outgoing or incoming. Additionally Keyring doesn't seem to be seeing this. It used to prompt for my keyring password and that was it. Keyring would handle it no questions asked. I deleted the keyring entries for evolution and keyring does not see that I am being prompted and try to add a new key. Also, using the File > Forget Passwords menu option does not correct this. I can get by always entering my password, but it seems pointless to have keyring there if it's not even going to try anymore... anyone have any ideas on a cause or fix? Thanks in advance... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Well, It's either a fluke, or there is something strange going on. Since no one responded, and since I am sure someone will encounter something like this... here we go. I was having other issues because of my curiosity on Orca, the accessibility tool. I ran it, answered a few questions and have had various strange issues ever since. After going to the accessibility preferences later on, I shut off accessibility completely and now the keyring manager and evolution work normally. I am not sure this is by design, and I am not sure what is happening, but there it is..... Just FYI On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 00:37 -0500, Clark P. Case wrote:
OK, I think this is a new development. I didn't notice it before. Even though I have checked the "Remember Password" option on my email account in Evolution, it always prompts me for it, outgoing or incoming.
Additionally Keyring doesn't seem to be seeing this. It used to prompt for my keyring password and that was it. Keyring would handle it no questions asked. I deleted the keyring entries for evolution and keyring does not see that I am being prompted and try to add a new key.
Also, using the File > Forget Passwords menu option does not correct this. I can get by always entering my password, but it seems pointless to have keyring there if it's not even going to try anymore... anyone have any ideas on a cause or fix?
Thanks in advance...
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On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 02:00 -0500, Clark P. Case wrote:
Well,
It's either a fluke, or there is something strange going on. Since no one responded, and since I am sure someone will encounter something like this... here we go.
I was having other issues because of my curiosity on Orca, the accessibility tool. I ran it, answered a few questions and have had various strange issues ever since. After going to the accessibility preferences later on, I shut off accessibility completely and now the keyring manager and evolution work normally. I am not sure this is by design, and I am not sure what is happening, but there it is.....
Just FYI
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 00:37 -0500, Clark P. Case wrote:
OK, I think this is a new development. I didn't notice it before. Even though I have checked the "Remember Password" option on my email account in Evolution, it always prompts me for it, outgoing or incoming.
Additionally Keyring doesn't seem to be seeing this. It used to prompt for my keyring password and that was it. Keyring would handle it no questions asked. I deleted the keyring entries for evolution and keyring does not see that I am being prompted and try to add a new key.
Also, using the File > Forget Passwords menu option does not correct this. I can get by always entering my password, but it seems pointless to have keyring there if it's not even going to try anymore... anyone have any ideas on a cause or fix?
Thanks in advance...
I tried to the the gnome-keyring-manager in KDE, but it comes up with the daemon is not running. Have been trying find out how to get it running to try it as I have that problem with Evolution. How do you get it to operate? Art -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi Art, I have been googling around and near as I can tell, KDE's equvalent is KWallet. I am not sure if this is correct. I have not found a solution for running the daemon for keyring manager as of yet, and the man page for gnome-keyring-manager yields little. It looks incomplete. If it is just a matter of getting the daemon started (meaning that you verified that if you manually started it, that it works, then you might try adding it to the list of start up applications. If I am able to find anything out there where someone managed to get these two to work together, I will post back to this thread.... Clark On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 16:28 +0800, Art Fore wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 02:00 -0500, Clark P. Case wrote:
Well,
It's either a fluke, or there is something strange going on. Since no one responded, and since I am sure someone will encounter something like this... here we go.
I was having other issues because of my curiosity on Orca, the accessibility tool. I ran it, answered a few questions and have had various strange issues ever since. After going to the accessibility preferences later on, I shut off accessibility completely and now the keyring manager and evolution work normally. I am not sure this is by design, and I am not sure what is happening, but there it is.....
Just FYI
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 00:37 -0500, Clark P. Case wrote:
OK, I think this is a new development. I didn't notice it before. Even though I have checked the "Remember Password" option on my email account in Evolution, it always prompts me for it, outgoing or incoming.
Additionally Keyring doesn't seem to be seeing this. It used to prompt for my keyring password and that was it. Keyring would handle it no questions asked. I deleted the keyring entries for evolution and keyring does not see that I am being prompted and try to add a new key.
Also, using the File > Forget Passwords menu option does not correct this. I can get by always entering my password, but it seems pointless to have keyring there if it's not even going to try anymore... anyone have any ideas on a cause or fix?
Thanks in advance...
I tried to the the gnome-keyring-manager in KDE, but it comes up with the daemon is not running. Have been trying find out how to get it running to try it as I have that problem with Evolution. How do you get it to operate?
Art
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On Monday 15 January 2007 21:34, Clark P. Case said:
If I am able to find anything out there where someone managed to get these two to work together, I will post back to this thread....
Did nothing come of last month's thread on the topic? I thought we had it down there. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-12/msg01767.html Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thanks for this Will. Frankly, the last few months I would have to say that about 75% of the email I get from this thread is banter. Between the OT posts and people yelling at the OT posters, I delete a lot. Funny that my google searches yielded nothing from this list. In the past I have gotten back results from this list but not this time. I guess I should have done my due diligence and searched all of the archives on openSUSE, but I had another topic where I did and ended up wasting an inordinate amount of time as there was not an answer. Eventually someone did come along and take care of my question (via another user asking the same thing) but it also came with about 30 or 40 responses that were mostly chatty... Thanks again for your help and patience. On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 11:24 +0100, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Monday 15 January 2007 21:34, Clark P. Case said:
If I am able to find anything out there where someone managed to get these two to work together, I will post back to this thread....
Did nothing come of last month's thread on the topic? I thought we had it down there. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-12/msg01767.html
Will
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Well, now I get to respond to myself again in the hope that this will at least be a record of the issue. Keyring manager worked for about a day. It is totally hit and miss as to when it will actually intercede. There isn't any kind of a pattern and the daemon is still running through all of this. I think the pattern changes a bit when I reboot and log in while explicitly choosing gnome as a "new session". In any case, it worked without fail when launching Gaim in 10.1, yet never asked for anything else. In 10.2, it is intermittent on any password-prompting application. (in my case evolution and gaim) Is there a command or tail I can run on some log, or better yet a way to setup a temporary log to try and capture the issue? I am thinking if the daemon is dying and auto-restarting that would be the only thing I can think of.... Out of ideas... On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 02:00 -0500, Clark P. Case wrote:
Well,
It's either a fluke, or there is something strange going on. Since no one responded, and since I am sure someone will encounter something like this... here we go.
I was having other issues because of my curiosity on Orca, the accessibility tool. I ran it, answered a few questions and have had various strange issues ever since. After going to the accessibility preferences later on, I shut off accessibility completely and now the keyring manager and evolution work normally. I am not sure this is by design, and I am not sure what is happening, but there it is.....
Just FYI
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 00:37 -0500, Clark P. Case wrote:
OK, I think this is a new development. I didn't notice it before. Even though I have checked the "Remember Password" option on my email account in Evolution, it always prompts me for it, outgoing or incoming.
Additionally Keyring doesn't seem to be seeing this. It used to prompt for my keyring password and that was it. Keyring would handle it no questions asked. I deleted the keyring entries for evolution and keyring does not see that I am being prompted and try to add a new key.
Also, using the File > Forget Passwords menu option does not correct this. I can get by always entering my password, but it seems pointless to have keyring there if it's not even going to try anymore... anyone have any ideas on a cause or fix?
Thanks in advance...
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On my Suse 10.2 laptop, I am having problems with the gnome-keyring too. Works sometimes, sometimes not. Sometimes with Evo, but also with network manager. I have noticed that it cannot seem to consistently add new keys. Also I noticed the the GNOME_KEYRING_PID environmental variable is not getting created. The GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET variable is. (Gnome-keyring-daemon is running.) These variables are supposed to be created by pam_keyring according to the man page on same. That is as far as I can get. Suggestions gratefully received. J On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 14:08 -0500, Clark P. Case wrote:
Well, now I get to respond to myself again in the hope that this will at least be a record of the issue.
Keyring manager worked for about a day. It is totally hit and miss as to when it will actually intercede. There isn't any kind of a pattern and the daemon is still running through all of this. I think the pattern changes a bit when I reboot and log in while explicitly choosing gnome as a "new session".
In any case, it worked without fail when launching Gaim in 10.1, yet never asked for anything else. In 10.2, it is intermittent on any password-prompting application. (in my case evolution and gaim) Is there a command or tail I can run on some log, or better yet a way to setup a temporary log to try and capture the issue? I am thinking if the daemon is dying and auto-restarting that would be the only thing I can think of....
Out of ideas...
On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 02:00 -0500, Clark P. Case wrote:
Well,
It's either a fluke, or there is something strange going on. Since no one responded, and since I am sure someone will encounter something like this... here we go.
I was having other issues because of my curiosity on Orca, the accessibility tool. I ran it, answered a few questions and have had various strange issues ever since. After going to the accessibility preferences later on, I shut off accessibility completely and now the keyring manager and evolution work normally. I am not sure this is by design, and I am not sure what is happening, but there it is.....
Just FYI
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 00:37 -0500, Clark P. Case wrote:
OK, I think this is a new development. I didn't notice it before. Even though I have checked the "Remember Password" option on my email account in Evolution, it always prompts me for it, outgoing or incoming.
Additionally Keyring doesn't seem to be seeing this. It used to prompt for my keyring password and that was it. Keyring would handle it no questions asked. I deleted the keyring entries for evolution and keyring does not see that I am being prompted and try to add a new key.
Also, using the File > Forget Passwords menu option does not correct this. I can get by always entering my password, but it seems pointless to have keyring there if it's not even going to try anymore... anyone have any ideas on a cause or fix?
Thanks in advance...
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