[opensuse] KDE4 System Administration drive me nuts
Hello: This is in openSUSE 13.2 with its default KDE4 (4.14.3). I want to configure the login manager (KDM). I start it from Configure Desktop -> System Administration -> Login Screen. It doesn't ask for root password. OK. I change a setting and try to save by clicking "Apply". Now it asks for root password. I fill it and the change is applied. I change another thing, "Apply" again. Is asks for root password again. And it goes on like this. Every time I click "Apply" it asks for the root password. This is very annoying. In KDE3 it was sufficient to enter root passord only once to enter administrator mode and after that you could make and apply as many changes as you wanted without entering the root password again in that session. What is the rationale behind this new "feature"? Is there any way to set back the KDE3 behavior? Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/22/2015 03:34 PM, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
This is in openSUSE 13.2 with its default KDE4 (4.14.3).
I want to configure the login manager (KDM). I start it from Configure Desktop -> System Administration -> Login Screen. It doesn't ask for root password. OK. I change a setting and try to save by clicking "Apply". Now it asks for root password. I fill it and the change is applied. I change another thing, "Apply" again. Is asks for root password again. And it goes on like this. Every time I click "Apply" it asks for the root password. This is very annoying. In KDE3 it was sufficient to enter root passord only once to enter administrator mode and after that you could make and apply as many changes as you wanted without entering the root password again in that session. What is the rationale behind this new "feature"? Is there any way to set back the KDE3 behavior?
Thanks,
Istvan
There is a check box that says Remember Password when it first asks root's password. But don't get your hopes up. It doesn't seem to work. Any time the apply button shows up with a KEY icon on it you are going to have to enter root's password again. Its been this way for quite a while. Very annoying. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
John Andersen írta:
On 01/22/2015 03:34 PM, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
This is in openSUSE 13.2 with its default KDE4 (4.14.3).
I want to configure the login manager (KDM). I start it from Configure Desktop -> System Administration -> Login Screen. It doesn't ask for root password. OK. I change a setting and try to save by clicking "Apply". Now it asks for root password. I fill it and the change is applied. I change another thing, "Apply" again. Is asks for root password again. And it goes on like this. Every time I click "Apply" it asks for the root password. This is very annoying. In KDE3 it was sufficient to enter root passord only once to enter administrator mode and after that you could make and apply as many changes as you wanted without entering the root password again in that session. What is the rationale behind this new "feature"? Is there any way to set back the KDE3 behavior?
Thanks,
Istvan
There is a check box that says Remember Password when it first asks root's password.
I don't want that.
But don't get your hopes up. It doesn't seem to work.
I don't want to try because I don't know how to make KDE4 forget my password if it still remembers.
Any time the apply button shows up with a KEY icon on it you are going to have to enter root's password again. Its been this way for quite a while. Very annoying.
Just imagine that you open a terminal window and you su to get root. And after it every time when you apply a command the system asks for the root password. If it happened how many would complain and say it's a nonsense? But because this is KDE4, it's considered an enhanced feature and must be greeted. Those who complain are trolls, retrograde etc. Thanks for your answer. Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/23/2015 12:17 PM, Istvan Gabor wrote:
John Andersen írta:
On 01/22/2015 03:34 PM, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
This is in openSUSE 13.2 with its default KDE4 (4.14.3).
I want to configure the login manager (KDM). I start it from Configure Desktop -> System Administration -> Login Screen. It doesn't ask for root password. OK. I change a setting and try to save by clicking "Apply". Now it asks for root password. I fill it and the change is applied. I change another thing, "Apply" again. Is asks for root password again. And it goes on like this. Every time I click "Apply" it asks for the root password. This is very annoying. In KDE3 it was sufficient to enter root passord only once to enter administrator mode and after that you could make and apply as many changes as you wanted without entering the root password again in that session. What is the rationale behind this new "feature"? Is there any way to set back the KDE3 behavior?
Thanks,
Istvan
There is a check box that says Remember Password when it first asks root's password.
I don't want that.
But don't get your hopes up. It doesn't seem to work.
I don't want to try because I don't know how to make KDE4 forget my password if it still remembers.
Any time the apply button shows up with a KEY icon on it you are going to have to enter root's password again. Its been this way for quite a while. Very annoying.
Just imagine that you open a terminal window and you su to get root. And after it every time when you apply a command the system asks for the root password. If it happened how many would complain and say it's a nonsense? But because this is KDE4, it's considered an enhanced feature and must be greeted. Those who complain are trolls, retrograde etc.
Thanks for your answer.
Just as with yast, everything in systemsettings is addressable directly. Don't ask me for specifics, I don't now them all! But there is a kde utility that lets you invoke any of the /usr/lib64/kde4/kcm_<something>.so files or whatever they are, directly from the command line, without going though all that GUI and the popup. You can 'look under the hood' using # rpm -ql $(rpm -qf /usr/bin/systemsettings) So you can do this all directly with "sudo' Someone more informed about the innards than I am can tell you what those are. Or spend time investigating & experimenting. I can imagine that you could even set up icons on your screen or menu that fire off the appropriate Dot-desktops files :-) -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
I think the command you want is kcmshell4 kdm When I run that I get an error telling me that /run/user/$(id -u anton)/gvfs is unwritable. Even though I won that I cannot chmod it to be writable. What do you get, Istvan? -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 24.01.2015 um 18:30 schrieb Anton Aylward:
I think the command you want is
kcmshell4 kdm
When I run that I get an error telling me that
/run/user/$(id -u anton)/gvfs
That should just be a warning. I get that all the time but it doesn't have an effect. That said, I can run the command above and I get the KDM settings and no gvfs errors. Regards, -- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla a.k.a. Philmann Dark "It's not the universe that's limited, it's our imagination. Follow me and I'll show you something beyond the limits." http://blog.pdark.de/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward írta:
On 01/23/2015 12:17 PM, Istvan Gabor wrote:
John Andersen írta:
On 01/22/2015 03:34 PM, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
This is in openSUSE 13.2 with its default KDE4 (4.14.3).
I want to configure the login manager (KDM). I start it from Configure Desktop -> System Administration -> Login Screen. It doesn't ask for root password. OK. I change a setting and try to save by clicking "Apply". Now it asks for root password. I fill it and the change is applied. I change another thing, "Apply" again. Is asks for root password again. And it goes on like this. Every time I click "Apply" it asks for the root password. This is very annoying. In KDE3 it was sufficient to enter root passord only once to enter administrator mode and after that you could make and apply as many changes as you wanted without entering the root password again in that session. What is the rationale behind this new "feature"? Is there any way to set back the KDE3 behavior?
Thanks,
Istvan
There is a check box that says Remember Password when it first asks root's password.
I don't want that.
But don't get your hopes up. It doesn't seem to work.
I don't want to try because I don't know how to make KDE4 forget my password if it still remembers.
Any time the apply button shows up with a KEY icon on it you are going to have to enter root's password again. Its been this way for quite a while. Very annoying.
Just imagine that you open a terminal window and you su to get root. And after it every time when you apply a command the system asks for the root password. If it happened how many would complain and say it's a nonsense? But because this is KDE4, it's considered an enhanced feature and must be greeted. Those who complain are trolls, retrograde etc.
Thanks for your answer.
Just as with yast, everything in systemsettings is addressable directly. Don't ask me for specifics, I don't now them all! But there is a kde utility that lets you invoke any of the /usr/lib64/kde4/kcm_<something>.so files or whatever they are, directly from the command line, without going though all that GUI and the popup.
Yes. And I can run kde system settings as root too and it will not ask for password anymore. I can even login to KDE4 as root make the configuration. What I mean I don't understand the login behind the behavior. I got used to how it worked in KDE3. It's logical and straightforward but the way it works in KDE4 I find counterproductive. Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/22/2015 06:34 PM, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
This is in openSUSE 13.2 with its default KDE4 (4.14.3).
I want to configure the login manager (KDM). I start it from Configure Desktop -> System Administration -> Login Screen. It doesn't ask for root password. OK. I change a setting and try to save by clicking "Apply". Now it asks for root password. I fill it and the change is applied. I change another thing, "Apply" again. Is asks for root password again. And it goes on like this. Every time I click "Apply" it asks for the root password. This is very annoying. In KDE3 it was sufficient to enter root passord only once to enter administrator mode and after that you could make and apply as many changes as you wanted without entering the root password again in that session. What is the rationale behind this new "feature"? Is there any way to set back the KDE3 behavior?
IIR there's a tweak you can do with PAM that makes it sticky. I recall doing this years ago but lost it when I had to do a clean install on a new drive ... Of course there's always the "wheel group" option. Hmm. Similar to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827196 so it might be a PolicyKit issue. -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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