[opensuse] Linux administration tutorial for OpenSUSE?
Hello, I have a son age 15 who really needs to learn how to understand and administer Linux. The machine he uses runs OpenSUSE (currently Leap 15.1). I know stuff but I am not sure I'm a good teacher, so I tried to find a tutorial. However, while I saw a few, I don't see any that would use OpenSUSE for examples. Of course the concepts are similar everywhere but I'd rather have him able to follow. Could anyone please recommend good tutorials for OpenSUSE? English language. Text or video is fine. -- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik Unless explicitly stated, all opinions in my mail are my own and do not reflect the views of any organization -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/10/20 5:50 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
Hello,
I have a son age 15 who really needs to learn how to understand and administer Linux. The machine he uses runs OpenSUSE (currently Leap 15.1).
I know stuff but I am not sure I'm a good teacher, so I tried to find a tutorial. However, while I saw a few, I don't see any that would use OpenSUSE for examples. Of course the concepts are similar everywhere but I'd rather have him able to follow.
Could anyone please recommend good tutorials for OpenSUSE? English language. Text or video is fine.
Not a tutorial, but an excellent reference book: "Linux in a Nutshell" by Ellen Siever, Stephen Figgins, Robert Love, and Arnold Robbins, published in paperback by O'Reilly. I have the 6th edition, which, as far as I know, is the latest and last. My copy says "$49.99" but I think I paid less for it some 5 or more years ago. It is tattered and torn, but still the go-to manual for most Linux command questions. If someone finds a good tutorial, I'd like to hear, but nowadays each distro seems to have a bunch of proprietary algorithms for doing things like updating the system, installing software, etc. Altho I am using OpenSUSE, Ubuntu used to have some excellent tutorial stuff on line. Don't know if they still do. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/10/20 5:50 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
Hello,
I have a son age 15 who really needs to learn how to understand and administer Linux. The machine he uses runs OpenSUSE (currently Leap 15.1).
I know stuff but I am not sure I'm a good teacher, so I tried to find a tutorial. However, while I saw a few, I don't see any that would use OpenSUSE for examples. Of course the concepts are similar everywhere but I'd rather have him able to follow.
Could anyone please recommend good tutorials for OpenSUSE? English language. Text or video is fine.
Maybe this? https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-opensuse-ref... --dg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 00:17, DennisG <dwgallien@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe this? https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-opensuse-ref...
Unfortunately this starts too advanced, need basics like package management, but perhaps I *should* try teaching after all. -- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik Unless explicitly stated, all opinions in my mail are my own and do not reflect the views of any organization -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/10/20 7:41 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 00:17, DennisG <dwgallien@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe this? https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-opensuse-ref... Unfortunately this starts too advanced, need basics like package management, but perhaps I *should* try teaching after all.
There are some 15.2 videos on Youtube. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/08/2020 01:41, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 00:17, DennisG <dwgallien@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe this? https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-opensuse-ref...
Unfortunately this starts too advanced, need basics like package management, but perhaps I *should* try teaching after all.
There are other manuals from the same source, including the Startup Guide which starts more from the basics and includes a section on package management: https://doc.opensuse.org/ gumb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 00:17, DennisG <dwgallien@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe this?
https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-opensuse-ref...
Unfortunately this starts too advanced, need basics like package management, but perhaps I *should* try teaching after all.
My son (age 16) had _some_ Linux in the first year of his apprenticeship - they installed Buntu (into a VMware guest), and played around with it. They set up various servers - dhcp, ftp, cups, samba and they were given the option of doing a "Linux Essentials" certification, paid for by the employer. Later on he also installed openSUSE as a Hyper-V guest. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (21.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 11.08.20 um 01:41 schrieb Mikhail Ramendik:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 00:17, DennisG <dwgallien@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe this? https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-opensuse-ref...
Unfortunately this starts too advanced, need basics like package management, but perhaps I *should* try teaching after all.
Advanced, for a 15 year old? Do not underestimate your son. Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 13:40, Peter McD <peter.posts@gmx.net> wrote:
Advanced, for a 15 year old? Do not underestimate your son.
It's not about age - he does not have the basic knowledge that the text references. Other sources were already offered so I'm looking. -- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik Unless explicitly stated, all opinions in my mail are my own and do not reflect the views of any organization -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/11/20 3:18 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 13:40, Peter McD <peter.posts@gmx.net> wrote:
Advanced, for a 15 year old? Do not underestimate your son.
It's not about age - he does not have the basic knowledge that the text references. Other sources were already offered so I'm looking.
Of course a reference is too advanced, especially for someone without fundamentals. Personally, I'm a big fan of the For Dummies series when it comes to introduction to the subject. https://www.amazon.de/Emmett-Dulaney/dp/1119490464/ https://www.dummies.com/computers/operating-systems/linux/linux-for-dummies-... Once you have an understanding of these things, then of course you are fine just reading manpages and reference manuals available online. But for bootstrapping yourself, you need a real *book* to get general knowledge. Best wishes, - Adam -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/08/2020 17:50, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
Hello,
I have a son age 15 who really needs to learn how to understand and administer Linux. The machine he uses runs OpenSUSE (currently Leap 15.1).
I know stuff but I am not sure I'm a good teacher, so I tried to find a tutorial. However, while I saw a few, I don't see any that would use OpenSUSE for examples. Of course the concepts are similar everywhere but I'd rather have him able to follow.
Could anyone please recommend good tutorials for OpenSUSE? English language. Text or video is fine.
it depends where you want to draw a threshold. SUSE-specific leads to yast. Anything that doesn't address systemd is out of date. There are some systems with VERY extensive wikis, for example https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Category:System_administration You can also find courseware https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsh64rjnRas -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/10/20 11:50 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
Hello,
I have a son age 15 who really needs to learn how to understand and administer Linux. The machine he uses runs OpenSUSE (currently Leap 15.1).
I know stuff but I am not sure I'm a good teacher, so I tried to find a tutorial. However, while I saw a few, I don't see any that would use OpenSUSE for examples. Of course the concepts are similar everywhere but I'd rather have him able to follow.
Could anyone please recommend good tutorials for OpenSUSE? English language. Text or video is fine.
There are Getting Started with Linux magazines. The latest edition for Leap 15.2 came out https://www.linux-magazine.com/Resources/Special-Editions/39-Getting-Started... I also have some issues from Leap 15.1. I could send you a copy. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/11/20 8:20 AM, ddemaio wrote:
On 8/10/20 11:50 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
Hello,
I have a son age 15 who really needs to learn how to understand and administer Linux. The machine he uses runs OpenSUSE (currently Leap 15.1).
I know stuff but I am not sure I'm a good teacher, so I tried to find a tutorial. However, while I saw a few, I don't see any that would use OpenSUSE for examples. Of course the concepts are similar everywhere but I'd rather have him able to follow.
Could anyone please recommend good tutorials for OpenSUSE? English language. Text or video is fine.
There are Getting Started with Linux magazines. The latest edition for Leap 15.2 came out https://www.linux-magazine.com/Resources/Special-Editions/39-Getting-Started...
I also have some issues from Leap 15.1. I could send you a copy. v/r Doug
Almost forgot. There are various tutorials also on out Youtube page, mostly for openQA, AI and containers - https://www.youtube.com/user/opensusetv/ v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/10/20 4:50 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
Hello,
I have a son age 15 who really needs to learn how to understand and administer Linux. The machine he uses runs OpenSUSE (currently Leap 15.1).
I know stuff but I am not sure I'm a good teacher, so I tried to find a tutorial. However, while I saw a few, I don't see any that would use OpenSUSE for examples. Of course the concepts are similar everywhere but I'd rather have him able to follow.
Could anyone please recommend good tutorials for OpenSUSE? English language. Text or video is fine.
Mikhail, No time like the present to get him started. It is hard to recommend any one good tutorial because so much depends on what your son wants to do with the machine. Does he want to set up his own web-server, e-mail, data base? Does he want to have it function as a file-server for the other windows machines in the house to make backups simpler? Does he want to set it up as a development platform for C/C++, Java, etc... One machine really can do it ALL -- very easily. Why it is difficult is there is no one resource I have found that (1) is current, and (2) covers it all. The way things are usually learned is either your son has a goal for what he wants to make the machine do that it doesn't do now -- so he needs a tutorial for that one aspect of Linux use, OR something breaks and he has an immediate need for "How do I fix this...?" The answer is largely the same in both cases. There are many wonderful tutorials out there for just about anything anyone would want to do on a Linux box. Just search "Linux (insert what you want to do here)" and you will find dozens to choose from. The next great resource are mailing lists like this one and dedicated help sites like the openSuSE wiki that holds good information or the the StackExchange sites like [Super User](http://superuser.com/) or [Unix & Linux](http://unix.stackexchange.com/) (just register, it's free, and just read the "How to ask a question" page first before asking your first question. You will find many people ready to help. That's kind of the way open-source communities work. For the basics of working with a Linux system, just open an xterm (command line terminal) and find a basic shell commands howto like https://linuxize.com/post/basic-linux-commands/ (just picked at random). The if you find yourself needing to manipulate text in creative ways, look into grep, sed, and awk (cryptic at first, but worth their weight in gold) By far awk is the most capable and truly is the Swiss-Army-Knife of text processing. There are hundreds of small utilities like cat, tac, shuffle, paste, find, tr, sort, uniq, etc... that are there to be used. (the Linux way was to create small applications that do one thing only, but do it very well. There are also world-class major applications that do just about anything you would buy software on windows to do. Gimp is arguably the best bitmap graphics package ever made, darktable more tailored for photographs, inkscape is arguably the best vector-graphics application, Audacity - a very capable audio editor, LibreOffice one of the best MS Office replacements going, Cinelerra, professional grade video editor that has been used by a number of Hollywood films, Octave a great Matlab type mathematics tool (matrix handling, symbolic differentiation, etc.., gcc (the GNU Compiler Collection) is one of the best Ada,C,C++,FORTRAN,Java compilers ever. The list just goes on and on... Which is why it is hard to recommend one book or tutorial. If you know of a specific goal your son has in mind, let us know and we are more than happy to locate a good tutorial or two to get him going. (like anything on the internet -- the quality of tutorials does vary...) You and your son have made a good choice to look further into Linux -- the sky is the limit and openSUSE is a fine distribution to help him get there. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-08-12 04:32, David C. Rankin wrote: ... a great love letter about Free Software, Linux and openSUSE. Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/12/20 11:22 AM, Bernhard Voelker wrote:
On 2020-08-12 04:32, David C. Rankin wrote:
... a great love letter about Free Software, Linux and openSUSE. Thanks.
I've got 3-kids, been down this road before :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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