[opensuse] open suse project management?
If you really have a feature you want to see intergrated in to future versions of SuSE . . . who do you talk to or write? Or are we stuck using the opensuse.org wiki wishlists? Is there any "higher authority" to appeal to than the wiki? JW -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:20 PM, JW
If you really have a feature you want to see intergrated in to future versions of SuSE . . . who do you talk to or write?
Or are we stuck using the opensuse.org wiki wishlists? Is there any "higher authority" to appeal to than the wiki?
https://features.opensuse.org/ -- Kind Regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 05 March 2009 13:20:55 JW wrote:
If you really have a feature you want to see intergrated in to future versions of SuSE . . . who do you talk to or write?
Or are we stuck using the opensuse.org wiki wishlists? Is there any "higher authority" to appeal to than the wiki?
If you have a support contract with Novell, you could use the support numbers / addresses provided to you by them or contact your DSE, if you have one, directly. They can open an official SR (support request). If you do not have a support contract, openFATE (wiki) is good, mailing lists and forums are iffy, contacting the packager (or packaging team) directly is nice, but public discussion is important for new features so that should be followed up at some point with adding something to openFATE or a discussion in one of the openSUSE project meetings, finally you could contact upstream (project, team or individual) directly if it is a program developed outside of openSUSE. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
On Thursday 05 March 2009 13:32:40 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Thursday 05 March 2009 13:20:55 JW wrote:
If you really have a feature you want to see intergrated in to
future
versions of SuSE . . . who do you talk to or write?
Or are we stuck using the opensuse.org wiki wishlists? Is there any "higher authority" to appeal to than the wiki?
If you have a support contract with Novell, you could use the support numbers / addresses provided to you by them or contact your DSE, if you have one, directly. They can open an official SR (support request).
If you do not have a support contract, openFATE (wiki) is good, mailing lists and forums are iffy, contacting the packager (or packaging team) directly is nice, but public discussion is important for new features so that should be followed up at some point with adding something to openFATE or a discussion in one of the openSUSE project meetings, finally you could contact upstream (project, team or individual) directly if it is a program developed outside of openSUSE.
I would like to suggest that this brings up something interesting: There are, then, 3 official or semi-official places to report bugs or make requests for suse: http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist* https://features.opensuse.org/ https://bugzilla.novell.com/index.cgi IMO this is an inefficient duplication of effort and makes the already much-too-time-consuming tasks of searching for existing bugs before filing a new one even more tedious by making 3 places you have to search (4 if you include for example KDE's or Mozilla's own). Also makes for inefficient collaboration on existing bugs, perhaps. May I suggest they be merged (with the old sites redirecting to the correct, merged one)? Or is there some significant reason to keep them separate? JW -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 05 March 2009 15:02:55 JW wrote:
This should be migrated into openFATE.
I think this is openFATE.
While bugs can be files for new features, openFATE is probably a better place. Bugs aren't really set up for handle discussion in their comments. However, the bugzilla is invaluable for tracking features that should work but don't. I wouldn't have any problems with "Wishlist" style bugs being migrated to openFATE and closed in Bugzilla, but I don't think there's a policy for that.
IMO this is an inefficient duplication of effort and makes the already much-too-time-consuming tasks of searching for existing bugs before filing a new one even more tedious by making 3 places you have to search (4 if you include for example KDE's or Mozilla's own). Also makes for inefficient collaboration on existing bugs, perhaps.
May I suggest they be merged (with the old sites redirecting to
Don't search all of them then. Determine where your request goes and make sure there are not duplicates on *that* site. That doesn't fix the problem with feature requests being on the wrong site, but it may save you some work. the
correct, merged one)?
Feel free to add your effort to the masses. If you don't have permission make the changes you need, you should at least be able to find the email address of someone that can do the task or give you those permissions. (Of course, upstream might have issues with merging with openSUSE.)
Or is there some significant reason to keep them separate?
Wiki should be documentation. Bugzilla should be bugs. openFATE should be new features. openFATE is rather new, so there is some overlap but that can be rectified by the community, AFAIK. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
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While bugs can be files for new features, openFATE is probably a better place. Bugs aren't really set up for handle discussion in their comments.
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:02 PM, JW
I would like to suggest that this brings up something interesting:
There are, then, 3 official or semi-official places to report bugs or make requests for suse:
http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist* https://features.opensuse.org/ https://bugzilla.novell.com/index.cgi
IMO this is an inefficient duplication of effort and makes the already much-too-time-consuming tasks of searching for existing bugs before filing a new one even more tedious by making 3 places you have to search (4 if you include for example KDE's or Mozilla's own). Also makes for inefficient collaboration on existing bugs, perhaps.
May I suggest they be merged (with the old sites redirecting to the correct, merged one)? Or is there some significant reason to keep them separate?
openFATE was created for that reason - bugzilla wasn't really equipped to handle feature requests and the wiki, while great for a lot of things, is meh when it comes to the feature request process. It will take a while for the community to move to openFATE, but eventually, the other two methods will be dropped for feature requests. Nkoli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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If you really have a feature you want to see intergrated in to future versions of SuSE . . . who do you talk to or write?
Or are we stuck using the opensuse.org wiki wishlists? Is there any "higher authority" to appeal to than the wiki?
I have seen bugzilla.novell.com mentioned as providing this function by novell people here. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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