1 CD install ready to test
Hello fellow openSUSE enthusiasts. As announced last week I have now finished 2 seperate iso's based on standard beta3. Both are single CD installation iso's without any modifications to the actual packages. I will continue maintaining these and additionally to those create and maintain a gnome iso. You can find them at ftp://opensuse.linux.co.nz/pub/SUPER/iso/ super-openSUSE-20052908-standard-kde.iso: kde base install on 1 CD (570 Mbyte) super-openSUSE-20052908-standard-minimal.iso: minimal install on 1 CD (390 Mbyte) A set of iso's with SUPER modifications already included will also be available in a few days. These iso's will be called -enhanced-kde.iso and enhanced-minimal.iso to differentiate them from the ones without any modifications (just straight openSUSE) called -standard-kde.iso and -standard-minimal.iso. This is the first set of iso's and I would please ask you to test them and add any packages you would like to add to them to the following Wiki page. Any bugs should also be reported to that site. http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/1_CD_install The iso's are done using the standard recommended Novell way. I have modified control.xml to have a more streamlined installation. I have tried to add /boot and /home (you can see that in the control.xml), but for some reason it ignores it, maybe a suse.de person can give me a hint? I followed the NLD documentation from our website. Apart from that it is a straight install of beta3. I added a new My.sel under suse/setup/descr, which contains the needed packages. All in all a very straight forward process and I am thoroughly impressed with the modularity and simplicity of our installer. Having played with Anaconda in the past, I find our installer refreshingly simple yet very powerful. Have fun! Regards, Andreas openSUSE is SUPER: To help in the SUSE Performance Enhanced Release project visit http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/SUPER
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 10:57:24PM -0600, Andreas Girardet wrote:
super-openSUSE-20052908-standard-kde.iso: kde base install on 1 CD (570 Mbyte) super-openSUSE-20052908-standard-minimal.iso: minimal install on 1 CD (390 Mbyte)
Great. I can imagine the 1st being the 1st CD for SUSE and openSUSE or at least a basis for it. For SUSE inclusion of OOo would be great. That way people will have a 1CD instalation if they want. I have not looked if the different conections are possible, but if they are not, it would be nice to do this. The reason is that sometimes people are unable to use the boot.iso, because the needed drivers are not installed. They then still have to download all CD's first and are unable to do a network instalation.
modified control.xml to have a more streamlined installation. I have tried to add /boot and /home (you can see that in the control.xml), but for some reason it ignores it, maybe a suse.de person can give me a hint?
Unfortunatly I can't read xml very well, but I could not find it. Probably just me. -- houghi http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs
Howdy Houghi ;)
Great. I can imagine the 1st being the 1st CD for SUSE and openSUSE or at least a basis for it. For SUSE inclusion of OOo would be great. That way people will have a 1CD instalation if they want.
I have not looked if the different conections are possible, but if
are not, it would be nice to do this. The reason is that sometimes
The first CD standard-kde is a customized KDE install on top of minimal (not equivalent to the SUSE kde install option, since that would result in a too large install for 1 CD). I used apt to create it on a test system and it contains quite a bit. I was thinking of adding openoffice, but that will then kill the rest of the space on the iso quickly and you would end up with a purely English install. I rather thought another option is to include the kde international files and make sure things are as much as possible multi lingual and have openoffice as a downloadable option, since it is huge and would disable such a multilingual install anyhow. The standard-minimal is a shell only install based on the SUSE install option Minimal + apt. they people
are unable to use the boot.iso, because the needed drivers are not installed. They then still have to download all CD's first and are unable to do a network instalation.
I do not exactly get what you are saying here ... what connections? Andreas openSUSE is SUPER: To help in the SUSE Performance Enhanced Release project visit http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/SUPER
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 03:08:54AM -0600, Andreas Girardet wrote:
The first CD standard-kde is a customized KDE install on top of minimal (not equivalent to the SUSE kde install option, since that would result in a too large install for 1 CD). I used apt to create it on a test system and it contains quite a bit. I was thinking of adding openoffice, but that will then kill the rest of the space on the iso quickly and you would end up with a purely English install. I rather thought another option is to include the kde international files and make sure things are as much as possible multi lingual and have openoffice as a downloadable option, since it is huge and would disable such a multilingual install anyhow.
OK. Undersandable. It would be nice if they would use it as a basis for openSUSE and SUSE so people can (if they want) just use 1 CD.
The standard-minimal is a shell only install based on the SUSE install option Minimal + apt.
I personaly do not like apt, but it is a nice idea. I asume that will be not included to the openSUSE or SUSE possibilaties, because you would get too many KD versions. The same goes for the Gnome one, unless you could do it in such a way that for openSUSE cd1 is KDE, cd2 is Gnome and 3-5 are all the other things. That way you could download 1 or 2 or all 5.
I have not looked if the different conections are possible, but if they are not, it would be nice to do this. The reason is that sometimes people are unable to use the boot.iso, because the needed drivers are not installed. They then still have to download all CD's first and are unable to do a network instalation.
I do not exactly get what you are saying here ... what connections?
rp-pppoe for people who not have an ADSL modem with it's own PPPoE. USB drivers fro some ADSL modems. vwdial for those who need dialup. ISDN for those who have ISDN. So what I was saying is Internet-connections for those who are not connected over a network card. I also noticed then when I go to the pacages, I get the message it needs to install fontconfig. Not a real problem, but it might confuse others. -- houghi http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs
OK. Undersandable. It would be nice if they would use it as a basis for openSUSE and SUSE so people can (if they want) just use 1 CD.
It is easy enough to just create and download these iso's. After all they are just plain SUSE 10.0 beta3
The standard- minimal is a shell only install based on the SUSE install option Minimal + apt.
I personaly do not like apt, but it is a nice idea. I asume that will be not included to the openSUSE or SUSE possibilaties, because you would get too many KD versions. The same goes for the Gnome one, unless you could do it in such a way that for openSUSE cd1 is KDE, cd2 is Gnome and 3- 5 are all the other things.
I like apt ;) ....
That way you could download 1 or 2 or all 5.
Each CD is really self containing and each CD will contain again and again the same packages. As such you probably would end up with 10 - 20 different iso's. The convenience really comes into place for a straight server/desktop install, where suddenly one does not need to download 5* 700 Mbyte, but only as much as they need. The rest is done online anyhow for most. And of course in a datacentre, where you just want to flick an autoyast file onto one of those CD's and go around and even headless install systems. Or for Install Fests. Who wants to give out 5 CDs each person? Or as marketing gift? And so on
I do not exactly get what you are saying here ... what connections?
rp- pppoe for people who not have an ADSL modem with it's own PPPoE. USB drivers fro some ADSL modems. vwdial for those who need dialup. ISDN for those who have ISDN.
OIC good point. Added to the site. will be in the beta4 iso's ....
So what I was saying is Internet- connections for those who are not connected over a network card.
I also noticed then when I go to the pacages, I get the message it needs to install fontconfig. Not a real problem, but it might confuse others.
That is a bug. My.sel had fam fontconfig instead of fam fontconfig it is on the CD and the packag manager resolved the dependency ... added to the buglist on the site Thanks for the feedback! Andreas
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 9:34 pm, in message <20050829093455.GA13649@penne>, houghi@houghi.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 03:08:54AM - 0600, Andreas Girardet wrote: The first CD standard- kde is a customized KDE install on top of minimal (not equivalent to the SUSE kde install option, since that would result in a too large install for 1 CD). I used apt to create it on a test system and it contains quite a bit. I was thinking of adding openoffice, but that will then kill the rest of the space on the iso quickly and you would end up with a purely English install. I rather thought another option is to include the kde international files and make sure things are as much as possible multi lingual and have openoffice as a downloadable option, since it is huge and would disable such a multilingual install anyhow.
OK. Undersandable. It would be nice if they would use it as a basis for openSUSE and SUSE so people can (if they want) just use 1 CD.
I just managed to get rid of some waste of space on the iso and I will be able to fit kde internation and Openoffice in english on there. It is looking like a good mix already ;) Andreas
Andreas, you will be publishing these 1 CD installs for the final SUSE 10 also, yes?
A set of iso's with SUPER modifications already included will also be available in a few days. These iso's will be called -enhanced-kde.iso and enhanced-minimal.iso to differentiate them from the ones without any modifications (just straight openSUSE) called -standard-kde.iso and -standard-minimal.iso.
If the standard packages which you have currently uploaded to the said site are not having the enhancements, then how do you name the files super-openSUSE? Only because it is published by the project super? Methinks it is published by you, separate from project SUPER, since the idea of SUPER is to produce the enhanced versions, not remakes of the original plain SUSE distro. Would you not agree? If yes, it might be good to remove the potentially misleading prefix of super- from the filenames. Anyway: Great going, Andreas! I'll wait till gold to download your enhanced releases, since I have not sufficient Linux-knowledge for testing (and only now getting my Linux legs on 9.3...) -- (o- Penguin #395953 lives at http://samvit.org //\ subsisting on ancient Indian wisdom ... V_/_ and modern computing efficiency! :)
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