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Fred A. Miller

29 Dec 2006 29 Dec '06

02:44

This is important for a number here.....new kernel, new BIG feature..to some anyway. http://www.osdir.com/Article9578.phtml Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Rajko M.

29 Dec 29 Dec

04:46

On Thursday 28 December 2006 20:44, Fred A. Miller wrote:

This is important for a number here.....new kernel, new BIG feature..to some anyway.

http://www.osdir.com/Article9578.phtml

http://linux.inet.hr/finally-user-friendly-virtualization-for-linux.html is the original article listed on osdir.com. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/MiniSUSE http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Kai Ponte

17:53

On Thursday 28 December 2006 18:44, Fred A. Miller wrote:

This is important for a number here.....new kernel, new BIG feature..to some anyway.

http://www.osdir.com/Article9578.phtml

"by adding virtualization capabilities to a standard Linux kernel, we can enjoy all the fine-tuning work that has gone (and is going) into the kernel, and bring that benefit into a virtualized environment." Cool! Does this mean my MAME and NESticle games will run even smoother? -- kai - theperfectreign@yahoo.com www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com wo ist der ort für den ehrlichsten kuss ich weiss, dass ich ihn für uns finden muss... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Jan Engelhardt

19:15

On Dec 29 2006 09:53, Kai Ponte wrote:

On Thursday 28 December 2006 18:44, Fred A. Miller wrote:

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This is important for a number here.....new kernel, new BIG feature..to some anyway.

http://www.osdir.com/Article9578.phtml

"by adding virtualization capabilities to a standard Linux kernel, we can enjoy all the fine-tuning work that has gone (and is going) into the kernel, and bring that benefit into a virtualized environment."

Cool!

Does this mean my MAME and NESticle games will run even smoother?

It means XEN becomes oboslete ;-) -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Greg Freemyer

20:24

On 12/29/06, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

On Dec 29 2006 09:53, Kai Ponte wrote:

...
On Thursday 28 December 2006 18:44, Fred A. Miller wrote:

...
This is important for a number here.....new kernel, new BIG feature..to some anyway.

http://www.osdir.com/Article9578.phtml

"by adding virtualization capabilities to a standard Linux kernel, we can enjoy all the fine-tuning work that has gone (and is going) into the kernel, and bring that benefit into a virtualized environment."

Cool!

Does this mean my MAME and NESticle games will run even smoother?

It means XEN becomes oboslete ;-)

I just did a little more reading. It does look like KVM is a XEN competitor. One issue is that it does not implement paravirtualization and thus only supports the new generation of CPUs with VT (Intel) or AMD-V (SVN?). Especially in the Desktop world it is going to be a while before those are either routinely available. XEN OTOH can support Linux Guests with standard CPUs via paravirtualization. (Xen too needs the new CPUs for Windows Guest OSes.) Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Jan Engelhardt

30 Dec 30 Dec

11:11

On Dec 29 2006 15:24, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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Does this mean my MAME and NESticle games will run even smoother?

It means XEN becomes oboslete ;-)

I just did a little more reading. It does look like KVM is a XEN competitor.

We've got way too much competitors. VT/KVM, VMware, QEMU, XEN, possibly more. (No need to name them.)

One issue is that it does not implement paravirtualization and thus only supports the new generation of CPUs with VT (Intel) or AMD-V (SVN?).

Software based [para]virtualization is already provided by xen and vmware. It would be stupid to reinvent the wheel. KVM is basically a new type of tyre however, designed only for specific roads.

Especially in the Desktop world it is going to be a while before those are either routinely available.

XEN OTOH can support Linux Guests with standard CPUs via

Does not support Windows OOTB.

paravirtualization. (Xen too needs the new CPUs for Windows Guest OSes.)

Well no, there has been a patch to Windows to make it xen-compatible, but Windows' EULA forbids distribution. (Which is what makes XEN useless now since VMware is free.) -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Philip Amadeo Saeli

31 Dec 31 Dec

00:38

* Greg Freemyer [2006-12-29 20:24]:

On 12/29/06, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

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On Dec 29 2006 09:53, Kai Ponte wrote:

...
On Thursday 28 December 2006 18:44, Fred A. Miller wrote:

...
This is important for a number here.....new kernel, new BIG feature..to some anyway.

http://www.osdir.com/Article9578.phtml

"by adding virtualization capabilities to a standard Linux kernel, we can enjoy all the fine-tuning work that has gone (and is going) into the kernel, and bring that benefit into a virtualized environment."

Cool!

Does this mean my MAME and NESticle games will run even smoother?

It means XEN becomes oboslete ;-)

I just did a little more reading. It does look like KVM is a XEN competitor.

Interestingly, the former CTO of XenSource, Moshe Bar, is now CTO of Qumranet, the Co behind KVM. That says something ... Apparently he left XenSource some time last October (2005). Anyway, KVM looks very cool. Now to obtain a system with hardware (CPU) support for virtualization... Phil -- Philip Amadeo Saeli SUSE Linux 10.1 psaeli@zorodyne.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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