[opensuse] Buggy thunderbird 13?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 With this "versionitis" of thunderbird, the program is in fact worse than ever. For example, twice I had the mouse pointer converted to a miniature page that I assume I have to drop at some folder for the operation to complete. But I can not drop the page anywhere! ESC does not work, and I retain that useless mouse pointer even if I go to an xterm. Clicking anywhere in the desktop does not work, not even outside Th. I have to alt-tab to an xterm, get the PID and kill thunderbird, using the keyboard, the mouse is dead till I kill Th. Another problem. Eventually, when syncing for off-network usage, it says that some operation did not complete because some folder is busy doing something else. I have to click ok and continue. This message is new. What on earth do I care the problems it finds? I want it to shut up and do its job as it always did. It doesn't even say what folder is busy and doing what and ordered by whom, so that I have a chance of killing that operation. Anybody else has seen this? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlALCnAACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UHSQCghX8dU1/tmfnHIxKlWnkiD60+ TNUAn0ke2x8IZwA8wA3VGa50xtfiE1Al =ysai -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/21/2012 10:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Eventually, when syncing for off-network usage, it says that some operation did not complete because some folder is busy doing something else. I have to click ok and continue. This message is new. What on earth do I care the problems it finds? I want it to shut up and do its job as it always did. It doesn't even say what folder is busy and doing what and ordered by whom, so that I have a chance of killing that operation. Anybody else has seen this?
have not seen the [snipped from above] mouse pointer problem.. the "folder busy" problem i have seen, and believe it to be that TB is "compacting" a folder (or folders)...at least that was the reason _here_ that i saw a new message demanding i click before work could proceed.....here, the work around was: Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Network & Disk Space, and in the Disk Space section of the dialog _either_ uncheck the box "Compact folders when it will save over ___ MB" or run up that spinner to a higher value.. it is new, i think recent TBs were delivered with compacting default enabled...or set to a lower value that earlier. dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-22 06:31, DenverD wrote:
On 07/21/2012 10:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
have not seen the [snipped from above] mouse pointer problem..
I believe it happens when I click on a message while the pointer is moving a bit.
the "folder busy" problem i have seen, and believe it to be that TB is "compacting" a folder (or folders)...at least that was the reason _here_ that i saw a new message demanding i click before work could proceed.....here, the work around was:
Yes, but you see, I do want compacting to happen, I have had the setting enabled for years without a problem. It is now that it is problematic. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAL6QcACgkQIvFNjefEBxpb2gCggCypaNowo0MUDjZAWZxZOaWz aX0An0glW+lVygLvbSkj1qevyfPTTHkt =p9Yz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/22/2012 01:50 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
the "folder busy" problem i have seen, and believe it to be that TB is "compacting" a folder (or folders)...at least that was the reason _here_ that i saw a new message demanding i click before work could proceed.....here, the work around was:
Yes, but you see, I do want compacting to happen, I have had the setting enabled for years without a problem. It is now that it is problematic.
so, at least one other _has_ seen it, so i'd say: log your bug (the workaround is ok for me) dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/22/2012 09:43 AM, DenverD wrote:
On 07/22/2012 01:50 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
the "folder busy" problem i have seen, and believe it to be that TB is "compacting" a folder (or folders)...at least that was the reason _here_ that i saw a new message demanding i click before work could proceed.....here, the work around was:
Yes, but you see, I do want compacting to happen, I have had the setting enabled for years without a problem. It is now that it is problematic.
so, at least one other _has_ seen it, so i'd say: log your bug (the workaround is ok for me)
Did Mozilla fix this for 13.0.1? Cos I don't see such a problem there. jd -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 23.07.2012 06:51, schrieb j debert:
On 07/22/2012 09:43 AM, DenverD wrote:
On 07/22/2012 01:50 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
the "folder busy" problem i have seen, and believe it to be that TB is "compacting" a folder (or folders)...at least that was the reason _here_ that i saw a new message demanding i click before work could proceed.....here, the work around was:
Yes, but you see, I do want compacting to happen, I have had the setting enabled for years without a problem. It is now that it is problematic.
so, at least one other _has_ seen it, so i'd say: log your bug (the workaround is ok for me)
Did Mozilla fix this for 13.0.1? Cos I don't see such a problem there.
Hmm, I cannot remember what the fix was between 13.0 and 13.0.1. Actually it might be related. Anyway Thunderbird 14.0 is on its way to the update repo (wondering why it's not there yet as FF is already). Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 22/07/12 21:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-07-22 06:31, DenverD wrote:
On 07/21/2012 10:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
have not seen the [snipped from above] mouse pointer problem.. I believe it happens when I click on a message while the pointer is moving a bit.
the "folder busy" problem i have seen, and believe it to be that TB is "compacting" a folder (or folders)...at least that was the reason _here_ that i saw a new message demanding i click before work could proceed.....here, the work around was: Yes, but you see, I do want compacting to happen, I have had the setting enabled for years without a problem. It is now that it is problematic.
The usual question, Carlos: does this happen if you use a new Profile? BC PS I haven't struck either of the problems you mention. But then, I ran TB (and FF) v13 for only a short time (like a couple of weeks) before installing TB and FF 17.0a1. -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.8.4 & kernel 3.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-23 07:35, Basil Chupin wrote:
The usual question, Carlos: does this happen if you use a new Profile?
It happens on my laptop and on my desktop. The mouse pointer thing only on the desktop, because dragging is more difficult with a touchpad and I use the machine less. I'm not likely to try a new profile, takes time. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlANJ0wACgkQIvFNjefEBxpHywCgt7UDlgQ59LagPKD4ezVxU3iI G3YAoNJbAhKsdwy4DjmvFJigZflmeGAA =i4oG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 23/07/12 20:28, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-07-23 07:35, Basil Chupin wrote:
The usual question, Carlos: does this happen if you use a new Profile? It happens on my laptop and on my desktop. The mouse pointer thing only on the desktop, because dragging is more difficult with a touchpad and I use the machine less.
I'm not likely to try a new profile, takes time.
Ce`? You mean typing "$> thunderbird -P" in a terminal would be too exhausting?! :-) (And I thought that I was out of physical condition! :-) .) BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.8.4 & kernel 3.4.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-23 12:53, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 23/07/12 20:28, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I'm not likely to try a new profile, takes time.
Ce`?
You mean typing "$> thunderbird -P" in a terminal would be too exhausting?! :-)
And then defining all my accounts there again? No, thanks... - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlANQ30ACgkQIvFNjefEBxp32wCgm1guA9YJB4qpB0VqgWDnzcUJ sGgAoIFz0qKz9Ma5+4UD207CLkohk0f+ =SuhD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 23/07/12 22:28, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2012-07-23 12:53, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 23/07/12 20:28, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I'm not likely to try a new profile, takes time.
Ce`?
You mean typing "$> thunderbird -P" in a terminal would be too exhausting?! :-)
And then defining all my accounts there again? No, thanks...
Just copy (only) your mail stuff from your existing TB profile into the new profile. You will be able to read the mail with your new, clean, profile. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.8.4 & kernel 3.5.0-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-07-21 22:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
With this "versionitis" of thunderbird, the program is in fact worse than ever.
Another one I found. Right now, I'm working offline, no internet. Yet, when reading stored email, Thunderbird is asking for my master password. I say "NO", cancel. A minute later I'm asked again. No, Again, No. After that, about every second, again and again. WHY? There is no network, it can not connect anywhere to load anything! Finally, it is silent. It is not the first time I see this master password madness, usually in Firefox: it is impossible to say "NO", because it asks again and again so that you can not work. And it doesn't say what it wants the password for, either. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlAP36YACgkQja8UbcUWM1wwlAD/e620b8PgCttV9DYFcEz+kXA5 P67DUfdfDjsuyxU4ml4A/0pjxKEFCUx8xnQxJdYMJf2BXz1Uv/XnjuVNC4wg0G4+ =OFke -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On 2012-07-21 22:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
With this "versionitis" of thunderbird, the program is in fact worse than ever.
Another one I found. Right now, I'm working offline, no internet. Yet, when reading stored email, Thunderbird is asking for my master password. I say "NO", cancel. A minute later I'm asked again. No, Again, No. After that, about every second, again and again. WHY? There is no network, it can not connect anywhere to load anything! Finally, it is silent.
It is not the first time I see this master password madness, usually in Firefox: it is impossible to say "NO", because it asks again and again so that you can not work.
And it doesn't say what it wants the password for, either.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) I have Thunderbird 12.0.1 on PCLOS, and something probably earlier on XP, and in the last two days I have been pestered to put in a password, even tho nothing has changed. I have not updated either one. (I don't have access to XP right now--it's on this same machine that I usually use for Linux--but since I haven't booted into XP for some time, except this evening, I'd guess that T/B in XP is at least 2 revs behind.) So whatever is causing the problem may not be due to the version, but to something that
On 07/25/2012 07:59 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote: the 'net sent over to T/B, and maybe it's just appearing in your system after you disconnected the net. Time will tell whether the problem will go away or not. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-26 05:35, Doug wrote:
On 07/25/2012 07:59 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I have Thunderbird 12.0.1 on PCLOS, and something probably earlier on XP, and in the last two days I have been pestered to put in a password, even tho nothing has changed. I have not updated either one. (I don't have access to XP right now--it's on this same machine that I usually use for Linux--but since I haven't booted into XP for some time, except this evening, I'd guess that T/B in XP is at least 2 revs behind.) So whatever is causing the problem may not be due to the version, but to something that the 'net sent over to T/B, and maybe it's just appearing in your system after you disconnected the net. Time will tell whether the problem will go away or not.
I got a lot of them, every five minutes or so. I think it is the loop that queries the mail servers: the loop is running, ask for the password, then it sees that it is offline, and stops. But in the process it pesters the user about the password. That is a bad design, not a bug. I tried to give a wrong password, the prompt come backs instantly, non stop. The master password is not supposed to be asked more than three times, I think. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlARBs0ACgkQIvFNjefEBxqshwCgxtBXChTusbg9nFmUl/Qqk0pz fSMAn2NaYrWyp95D7FjCJMFXDGpIE6XT =jNIc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/26/2012 10:58 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I think it is the loop that queries the mail servers: the loop is running
i _guess_ it is smart enough to not try to fetch mail when you tell it you are offline! so try File > Offline > Work offline and then when you next hook up switch back to online.. works?? dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-26 15:14, DenverD wrote:
On 07/26/2012 10:58 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I think it is the loop that queries the mail servers: the loop is running
i _guess_ it is smart enough to not try to fetch mail when you tell it you are offline! so try File > Offline > Work offline
No, it is not that smart. I was working offline, ie, I had done just that. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlARUBoACgkQIvFNjefEBxqujwCfRCvT07+cvI2ezwbqmHOff/q1 CB4AoM0/qbTyrqteWgy41bAZE5yHWzbI =J2Vu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/25/2012 02:59 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-07-21 22:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
With this "versionitis" of thunderbird, the program is in fact worse than ever.
Another one I found. Right now, I'm working offline, no internet. Yet, when reading stored email, Thunderbird is asking for my master password. I say "NO", cancel. A minute later I'm asked again. No, Again, No. After that, about every second, again and again. WHY? There is no network, it can not connect anywhere to load anything! Finally, it is silent.
It is not the first time I see this master password madness, usually in Firefox: it is impossible to say "NO", because it asks again and again so that you can not work.
And it doesn't say what it wants the password for, either.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
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Hi, It might be related to this issue: I have set a threshold at 100k to leave messages on server. With the new version, this works the first time but when another e-mail follows the same thread, the first e-mail gets downloaded too without me asking this. Cheers, Angelos -- Angelos Tzotsos Remote Sensing Laboratory National Technical University of Athens http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-07-26 16:25, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
On 07/25/2012 02:59 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
It might be related to this issue: I have set a threshold at 100k to leave messages on server. With the new version, this works the first time but when another e-mail follows the same thread, the first e-mail gets downloaded too without me asking this.
No, I don't have thresholds set. That's a different issue. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlARidAACgkQIvFNjefEBxrNVwCdF/MyG9MU8J3I0+aYHftuOOIE +gwAoKlgMsuT9pAwMtvOQ0F0/bxcEyiA =ohzy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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