Hello everyone, Does anyone knows if OpenOffice 2.0 (final) will make it into SUSE 10? Thanks Jorge
On Monday 15 August 2005 00:40, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
Hello everyone,
Does anyone knows if OpenOffice 2.0 (final) will make it into SUSE 10?
Doesn't seem likely, as the roadmap calls for a release candidate around the time SUSE 10 gets its release candidate, and there is still no date set for a release It will probably get an update later, when the final version is released though, just like there have been OOo2 updates for 9.3
On Sunday 14 August 2005 6:48 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
Doesn't seem likely, as the roadmap calls for a release candidate around the time SUSE 10 gets its release candidate, and there is still no date set for a release
It will probably get an update later, when the final version is released though, just like there have been OOo2 updates for 9.3
I see. Thanks Anders for your answer. Jorge
Anders Johansson wrote:
Doesn't seem likely, as the roadmap calls for a release candidate around the time SUSE 10 gets its release candidate, and there is still no date set for a release
Slightly deviating from the topic of this thread, the roadmap page (http://opensuse.org/index.php/Roadmap) says: SUSE Linux 10.0 Schedule Aug 9, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 beta1 release. Aug 18, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 beta2 release. Aug 25, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 beta3 release. Sep 1, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 beta4 release. Sep 9, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 RC1 release. So is the release candidate the actual product that gets released or is it only a "candidate"? I've often seen stuff like "RC2". Doesn't that mean that the previous release wasn't a release? Or is it something like Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition? Or perhaps Win XP and Win XP with SP1? -- Shriramana Sharma http://samvit.org
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 06:19 +0530, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
Doesn't seem likely, as the roadmap calls for a release candidate around the time SUSE 10 gets its release candidate, and there is still no date set for a release
Slightly deviating from the topic of this thread, the roadmap page (http://opensuse.org/index.php/Roadmap) says:
SUSE Linux 10.0 Schedule Aug 9, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 beta1 release. Aug 18, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 beta2 release. Aug 25, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 beta3 release. Sep 1, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 beta4 release. Sep 9, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 RC1 release.
So is the release candidate the actual product that gets released or is it only a "candidate"? I've often seen stuff like "RC2". Doesn't that mean that the previous release wasn't a release?
Or is it something like Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition? Or perhaps Win XP and Win XP with SP1?
RC1 is probably closer to the version that MS just released to testers. In the case of SUSE 10.0 Novell has released the product to the community earlier for testing (beta releases) than MS would. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
* Ken Schneider
RC1 is probably closer to the version that MS just released to testers. In the case of SUSE 10.0 Novell has released the product to the community earlier for testing (beta releases) than MS would.
No, I would guess that RC1 would be closer to m$'s first public release for sale. Expecting at least 3 release candidates before gold. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery
Ken Schneider
So is the release candidate the actual product that gets released or is it only a "candidate"? I've often seen stuff like "RC2". Doesn't that mean that the previous release wasn't a release?
It's a candidate, we test it - and if it fails, we go for the next candidate. Our process is as follows: We decide that everything is ok for the release, build the RC, test it heavily and then fix those bugs that are blocker bugs - and start with another RC. The last RC will be called Goldmaster, so for 9.3 RC4 was the goldmaster, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 06:19:47AM +0530, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Sep 9, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 RC1 release.
So is the release candidate the actual product that gets released or is it only a "candidate"? I've often seen stuff like "RC2". Doesn't that mean that the previous release wasn't a release?
RC stands for Release Candidate. Ther can be more then one. After that you normaly have a Gold release, That is the version that goes to the printer. Most of the time this is(was) burned on a gold coloured CD, hence the name. So now you also know what it means when people say that some piece of software `goed gold`. houghi -- If there is no God, who pops up the next Kleenex? -- Art Hoppe
houghi wrote:
So now you also know what it means when people say that some piece of software `goed gold`.
No, I don't understand what "goed gold" means? Does it mean it "reached the stage of gold release"? And if there are going to be 3 RCs before the gold release, how come the entry immediately after SuSE 10 RC1 is SuSE 10.1? -- Shriramana Sharma http://samvit.org
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 08:33:42AM +0530, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
houghi wrote:
So now you also know what it means when people say that some piece of software `goed gold`.
No, I don't understand what "goed gold" means? Does it mean it "reached the stage of gold release"?
Should have been `goes gold`. Going gold means that somebody has the final CD that he brings to the company that presses the CD's for the masses. This CD they carry to that company is a CD you and I use and is most of the time of a Gold colour: http://www.infocellar.com/networks/graphics/images/cd-gold.jpg
And if there are going to be 3 RCs before the gold release, how come the entry immediately after SuSE 10 RC1 is SuSE 10.1?
It is not sure that there will be 3 RC's. Maybe laess, maybe more. First you have 10 Beta 1-x , then 10.0 RC 1-x then gold (wich you will never see, because that is only used to go from the SUSE office to the CD factory) and then 10.0 Next we will have 10.1 Beta, then 10.1 RC then 10.1 Gold and finaly 10.1 After that we have 10.2 Beta ... houghi -- Workers of the world, arise! You have nothing to lose but your chairs.
On Monday 15 August 2005 05:03, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
And if there are going to be 3 RCs before the gold release, how come the entry immediately after SuSE 10 RC1 is SuSE 10.1?
No one knows how many release candidates there will be. A release candidate is a candidate for release, hence the name. What this means is that if there are no bugs reported in it (showstoppers), it will be the final release. If there are showstopper bugs, there will be another release candidate, and so on until one RC is without showstoppers, in which case it will be released as the Gold Master No one plans for more release candidates than one.
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No one knows how many release candidates there will be. A release candidate is a candidate for release, hence the name. What this means is that if there are no bugs reported in it (showstoppers), it will be the final release. If there are showstopper bugs, there will be another release candidate, and so on until one RC is without showstoppers, in which case it will be released as the Gold Master
No one plans for more release candidates than one. <snip>
I thought I read on this list, some eons ago, that the difference was that Beta's might not include all programs for testing at any one time and they could still include updated apps. RC releases were a statement of final inclusion of program or app updates or versions, that only "included" bugs would be fixed, but newer versions or releases of other apps would not be incorporated. Just my understanding. I have been wrong on many points in the past, not a fact which any of you are free to inform my wife about. Richard
On Monday 15 August 2005 18:48, Richard wrote:
I thought I read on this list, some eons ago, that the difference was that Beta's might not include all programs for testing at any one time and they could still include updated apps. RC releases were a statement of final inclusion of program or app updates or versions, that only "included" bugs would be fixed, but newer versions or releases of other apps would not be incorporated. Just my understanding. I have been wrong on many points in the past, not a fact which any of you are free to inform my wife about.
No, that's 'feature freeze'. After the feature freeze is in effect, they move on to the alpha releases, which are too buggy for testing by end users and QA. They are 'developers only' releases When they decide that the software is good enough to be tested by end users, they start with the beta releases. When they think they have something that is good enough to be released, they produce the release candidate. As I mentioned, this is a version that if there are no 'show stopper' bugs found, will be the final release. It is a candidate for release
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Sep 9, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 RC1 release.
isn't that much faster than initially stated? I remember a release date as end of october? not to complain :-) jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 10:43:26PM +0200, jdd wrote:
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Sep 9, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 RC1 release.
isn't that much faster than initially stated? I remember a release date as end of october?
RC1 is not the same as the version that is goint to be released. look at the C, it is a Candidate. houghi -- In America, any boy may become president and I suppose that's just one of the risks he takes. -- Adlai Stevenson
jdd
Shriramana Sharma wrote:
Sep 9, 2005 SUSE Linux 10.0 RC1 release.
isn't that much faster than initially stated? I remember a release date as end of october?
SUSE Linux 10.0 will be in the shops in early october... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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