[SLE] new kernels, nvidia, yast
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I don't know if this is the proper place to post suggestions, but, here it is anyhow: I recently upgraded my kernel as suggested by SuSE watcher. YAST gave me several instructions on what to do after I installing the patch, however, as I am running an nvidia card, after my reboot, X wouldn't start because the kernel module wasn't for the same kernel - I got it figured out eventually, but it would have been nice for YAST to parse the xorg.conf file for "nvidia" and if found put up another dialog box giving instructions on what to do for this driver, suggestions to dowload new driver for nvidia, how to install it, etc. Thanks, Tad -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC+A2NXmZckhe5ygMRAolYAKCENIFV0vLNni0lB4+T+6LTJ/l0aACeJkRC S5km9KCHE4PtQyKPNMFf0iM= =P1Xj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I recently upgraded my kernel as suggested by SuSE watcher. YAST gave me several instructions on what to do after I installing the patch, however, as I am running an nvidia card, after my reboot, X wouldn't start because the kernel module wasn't for the same kernel - I got it figured out eventually, but it would have been nice for YAST to parse the xorg.conf file for "nvidia" and if found put up another dialog box giving instructions on what to do for this driver, suggestions to dowload new driver for nvidia, how to install it, et
On Mon August 8 2005 9:57 pm, Tad Whiteside wrote: that is exactly why I didn't do that upgrade. I am tired of screwing around and not having X start, or not have my Invidia card recognized, or have it boot up the first time, then crash on a reboot because of the video card setup... they need a better setup for a kernel upgrade with Invidia cards, for sure. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 X-Request-PGP: http://home.comcast.net/~p.cartwright/wsb/key.asc
I recently upgraded my kernel as suggested by SuSE watcher. YAST <snip>
On 10/08/05, Paul Cartwright <paul_tbot@pcartwright.com> wrote: On Mon August 8 2005 9:57 pm, Tad Whiteside wrote: that is exactly why I didn't do that upgrade. I am tired of screwing around and not having X start, or not have my Invidia card recognized, or have it boot up the first time, then crash on a reboot because of the video card setup... they need a better setup for a kernel upgrade with Invidia cards, for sure.
The kernel upgrade was a plague on my workstations too, FWIW. matt.
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 07:47 pm, Matt Hurd wrote:
The kernel upgrade was a plague on my workstations too, FWIW.
The kernel update is not the problem. The problem is not having an open source driver for a modern OpenGL capable card. nvidia binary-only driver is the least of all evils. Because once installed, at least works quite well. Unlike ATI, which is scary, and keeps appearing in horror stories. There is a company that's planning to make an open-source friendly card with decent OpenGL capabilities. Not the highest specs for latest games, but good enough for most of them and certainly good for other OpenGL needs. Like the next X.org with KDE4, plasma etc. And is supposed to work out of the box in Linux (as any hardware should, without driver hunt and configuration sufferance) I wish them best of luck. I would certainly want one of those cards on my desktop PC at work. http://lists.duskglow.com/mailman/listinfo/open-graphics
FWIW, I just done an online update on my desktop (Suse 9.3) with an Nvidia 5700le card. After the reboot, logged right in to X with no problems, no changes, An it was the Nvidia driver as I got the nvidia splash screen. Art Art Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 07:47 pm, Matt Hurd wrote:
The kernel upgrade was a plague on my workstations too, FWIW.
The kernel update is not the problem.
The problem is not having an open source driver for a modern OpenGL capable card.
nvidia binary-only driver is the least of all evils. Because once installed, at least works quite well. Unlike ATI, which is scary, and keeps appearing in horror stories.
There is a company that's planning to make an open-source friendly card with decent OpenGL capabilities. Not the highest specs for latest games, but good enough for most of them and certainly good for other OpenGL needs. Like the next X.org with KDE4, plasma etc. And is supposed to work out of the box in Linux (as any hardware should, without driver hunt and configuration sufferance)
I wish them best of luck. I would certainly want one of those cards on my desktop PC at work.
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 15:21 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
I recently upgraded my kernel as suggested by SuSE watcher. YAST gave me several instructions on what to do after I installing the patch, however, as I am running an nvidia card, after my reboot, X wouldn't start because the kernel module wasn't for the same kernel - I got it figured out eventually, but it would have been nice for YAST to parse the xorg.conf file for "nvidia" and if found put up another dialog box giving instructions on what to do for this driver, suggestions to dowload new driver for nvidia, how to install it, et
On Mon August 8 2005 9:57 pm, Tad Whiteside wrote: that is exactly why I didn't do that upgrade. I am tired of screwing around and not having X start, or not have my Invidia card recognized, or have it boot up the first time, then crash on a reboot because of the video card setup... they need a better setup for a kernel upgrade with Invidia cards, for sure.
They already do using YOU do install the 3D invidia driver. Never have had any problems with it ever after kernel updates. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Tue August 9 2005 4:37 pm, Ken Schneider wrote:
They already do using YOU do install the 3D invidia driver. Never have had any problems with it ever after kernel updates. last kernel upgrade I had to boot into SUSE 9.2 for awhile, until I fffigured out how to revert back to my last known good setup. when I did the kernel upgrade before, it failed to recognize my monitor/card setup and left me sitting at a command line prompt. **I** can deal with that, but my wife can't. If she had done the upgrade herself ( like a windoze patch) she would have been totally lost and totally pissed at me.
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On Tuesday 09 August 2005 02:57, Tad Whiteside wrote:
I don't know if this is the proper place to post suggestions, but, here it is anyhow:
I recently upgraded my kernel as suggested by SuSE watcher. YAST gave me several instructions on what to do after I installing the patch, however, as I am running an nvidia card, after my reboot, X wouldn't start because the kernel module wasn't for the same kernel - I got it figured out eventually, but it would have been nice for YAST to parse the xorg.conf file for "nvidia" and if found put up another dialog box giving instructions on what to do for this driver, suggestions to dowload new driver for nvidia, how to install it, etc.
Thanks,
Tad
"http://www.nvidia.com" follow links to down load section download latest NVIDIA driver version NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run at the moment if needed "chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run " boot new kernel using 3 on the boot params line at boot that boots to runlevel 3 no gui cd to the place you have the driver stored the for suse 9.2 do " ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run -q" accept the driver answer yes to the rest of the questions about the installed driver , Driver installs then " init 5" bingo X and KDE or the other one up and running if you had a previous NVIDIA driver installed there is NO NEED for the sax2 bit (that always fails big time for me any how so i hand brew things ) I believe it aint that much different for 9.3 either the only time i allowed yast to handle the MVIDIA install it made such a dogs dinner of it i always do it by hand now works every time . Have fun Pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:-------
You will also need a completely configured kernel source for NVidia's file to run You might also check subfs in /usr/src/kernel-modules Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 02:57, Tad Whiteside wrote:
I don't know if this is the proper place to post suggestions, but, here it is anyhow:
I recently upgraded my kernel as suggested by SuSE watcher. YAST gave me several instructions on what to do after I installing the patch, however, as I am running an nvidia card, after my reboot, X wouldn't start because the kernel module wasn't for the same kernel - I got it figured out eventually, but it would have been nice for YAST to parse the xorg.conf file for "nvidia" and if found put up another dialog box giving instructions on what to do for this driver, suggestions to dowload new driver for nvidia, how to install it, etc.
Thanks,
Tad
"http://www.nvidia.com" follow links to down load section download latest NVIDIA driver version NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run at the moment if needed "chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run " boot new kernel using 3 on the boot params line at boot that boots to runlevel 3 no gui
cd to the place you have the driver stored the for suse 9.2 do " ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run -q" accept the driver answer yes to the rest of the questions about the installed driver , Driver installs then " init 5" bingo X and KDE or the other one up and running if you had a previous NVIDIA driver installed there is NO NEED for the sax2 bit (that always fails big time for me any how so i hand brew things )
I believe it aint that much different for 9.3 either the only time i allowed yast to handle the MVIDIA install it made such a dogs dinner of it i always do it by hand now works every time .
Have fun
Pete .
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On Wednesday 10 August 2005 00:26, Donn Washburn wrote:
You will also need a completely configured kernel source for NVidia's file to run You might also check subfs in /usr/src/kernel-modules
SNIP Say WHAAAAAAA! if it is a stock SUSE keernel you need to do NO SUCH THING AT ALL . if you play with fire with the kernel.org kernels then maybe but the stock suse upgrades do not need touching at all install all four kernel update files then you need do nothing but what i said previousley as i have been doing for too long to remember .. Pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:-------
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