Re: [OT] US anti-spam laws 'will legalise spam'
On Thursday 03 July 2003 14:16, zentara wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:35:34 -0700
Ben Rosenberg
wrote: * Fred A. Miller (fmiller@lightlink.com) [030703 09:30]:
Of course it will. Do you think that all the U.S. Corps. want to give up such a great direct marketing tool. I think not. Spam laws won't do much of anything accept make the life of the person working in an isp or telco much harder (read Ben's gonna be more cranky). We'll have to figure out a way to block Asian Viagra and penis enlargement spams while letting Target send out coupons via this crap. Very shady stuff.
The thought also just occured to me that "spam" is making it easier for "authorities" to scan your mail too. If your ISP has it's "spam department" scanning your mail to prevent spam, they get to scan it all, and who knows what info they are collecting.
You know it's going to deteriorate to the point where a system is going to have to be setup so that everyone will have an "accept list". And anyone who wants to send you mail will have to first request you put them on the "accept-list". Everything else gets sent to /dev/null.
I don't see why the new "Telemarketing Phone Block List", which has been ballyhooed on all the news lately, can't be applied to email. Is email any different from a phone call, is terms of legality? They are both sending data to your equipment, one is computer data(text,phots,etc), while the other is audio. Really they are the same.
So when are they going to setup a blocking list, for email, and fine spammers for breaking it.
Then maybe we will get what we are all really after.......GETTING PAID TO READ SPAM. YEAH.!!! To continue spamming after such a law is passed, the sellers will have to offer you coupons, discounts, and yes even money, to receive their "offerings". I can see the day where you will get one free month cable TV service for allowing certain spam to be delivered to you.
T'would be nice...... but if a good law in the US was enacted, all the spammers would and will just move to other countries. To do that with phone calls would be expensive for them.
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 20:41, Bruce Marshall wrote: <a mail to the wrong mailing list> You're using kmail. If you hit "l" to reply, the reply will automatically be sent to the correct mailing list, so you don't have to fill in the address manually and make the mistake you just did //Anders PS. To whom it may concern: TOLD YOU SO!
Sweet I have been using kmail for about 3 weeks now and didn't know that. Is there a way to change the default forward to include it in message text rather then attachment? Is there a way to have its compuser work more like emacs ctrl-a ctrl-k ect. On Thursday 03 July 2003 12:20 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 20:41, Bruce Marshall wrote: <a mail to the wrong mailing list>
You're using kmail. If you hit "l" to reply, the reply will automatically be sent to the correct mailing list, so you don't have to fill in the address manually and make the mistake you just did
//Anders
PS. To whom it may concern: TOLD YOU SO!
T'would be nice...... but if a good law in the US was enacted, all the spammers would and will just move to other countries. To do that with phone calls would be expensive for them.
We're already being bombarded with all the U.S. companies' spam, thank you. In the five or so years since I received my first spam, I haven't receive a single offer with a price in South African Rand - every thing is in USD... At least if they had the decency to phone us, they would actually hear us swear at them! Hans
At 14:41 07/03/2003 -0400, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Thursday 03 July 2003 14:16, zentara wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:35:34 -0700
e why the new "Telemarketing Phone Block List", which has been
ballyhooed on all the news lately, can't be applied to email. Is email any different from a phone call, is terms of legality? They are both sending data to your equipment, one is computer data(text,phots,etc), while the other is audio. Really they are the same.
So when are they going to setup a blocking list, for email, and fine spammers for breaking it.
Then maybe we will get what we are all really after.......GETTING PAID TO READ SPAM. YEAH.!!! To continue spamming after such a law is passed, the sellers will have to offer you coupons, discounts, and yes even money, to receive their "offerings". I can see the day where you will get one free month cable TV service for allowing certain spam to be delivered to you.
Yeah, and they would keep spamming with "coupons" or something like them, for the same junk papers they deliver at your door--which happens to be illegal in New York City, but they do it anyway--some junk at a local store, that you probably wouldn't go to because they are too expensive, or too small, or for some other reason, and some junk about re-roofing, re-siding, new kitchens, new bathrooms, new windows. . . . Maybe it would be easier to block this, but I doubt it. I used to get tons of porno spam at my work machine, and I tried to filter it, but no luck. The only way I got rid of it was to retire! --doug
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Anders Johansson
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Bruce Marshall
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Doug McGarrett
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H du Plooy
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Paul Kraus