[opensuse] KSMServer translation/string bug
Novell wants too much of my personal information to report a bug, so I hope someone here can either report or fix the bug. ;-) Using KDE 3.5.6 binaries. In the KSMServer end session dialog, there is popup help for the reboot option that contains a grammatical error. I think suse puts the text in kdebase3.spec.cpp:204: "<qt><h3>Restart Computer</h3><p>Log out of the current session and restart " +"the computer</p><p>Hold the mouse button or the space bar for a short while " +"to get a list of options what to boot</p></qt>" In the above, the word "what" should be removed., such that it reads "to get a list of options to boot". Thanks, Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 05 February 2007 15:52, Mark A. Taff wrote:
Novell wants too much of my personal information to report a bug, so I hope someone here can either report or fix the bug. ;-)
I've seen this complaint before. Last time I was there it asked for the name and email address, both for verification purposes to make sure that someone doesn't impersonate as you. BTW, that information you provided in this email for a whole world. There is a lot of services that provide interface to mail lists and copy messages to their servers. In this respect bugzilla is much more restrictive. The name of bug reporter is visible only to logged in users, not to search engines. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 05 February 2007 21:26:41 Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 05 February 2007 15:52, Mark A. Taff wrote:
Novell wants too much of my personal information to report a bug, so I hope someone here can either report or fix the bug. ;-)
I've seen this complaint before. Last time I was there it asked for the name and email address, both for verification purposes to make sure that someone doesn't impersonate as you.
BTW, that information you provided in this email for a whole world. There is a lot of services that provide interface to mail lists and copy messages to their servers. In this respect bugzilla is much more restrictive. The name of bug reporter is visible only to logged in users, not to search engines.
-- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal
Novell's bugzilla requires my phone number, mailing address, security questions, etc. :-( If it was only my name and e-mail, that wouldn't be any issue whatsoever, but it isn't. See: https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/createAccount.jsp?target=https%3A/... There is absolutely *NO* need for Novell to require my phone number or physical address so I can report a bug. The only reason they need that stuff is so they can 1) call me, 2) send me junk mail, or 3) sell my contact information to a third party; none of which I am interested in having happen. Regards, Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 00:50, Mark A. Taff wrote:
On Monday 05 February 2007 21:26:41 Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 05 February 2007 15:52, Mark A. Taff wrote:
Novell wants too much of my personal information to report a bug, so I hope someone here can either report or fix the bug. ;-)
I've seen this complaint before. Last time I was there it asked for the name and email address, both for verification purposes to make sure that someone doesn't impersonate as you. ....
OK. I think it is bit more than I remember, but I would assume that my memory is at fault, rather than they ask more now. Sorry.
There is absolutely *NO* need for Novell to require my phone number or physical address so I can report a bug. The only reason they need that stuff is so they can 1) call me,
Never happened.
2) send me junk mail,
Never happened.
or 3) sell my contact information to a third party;
I have no feeling that this ever happened. I can tell you that SUSE Germany had no my contact information when they needed it, and they got to ask me directly. So it seems that Novell doesn't share information even internally.
none of which I am interested in having happen.
Me too. Sincerely I was very reluctant to fill the form out, but I wanted to help on openSUSE wiki and at the end I created account. Knowing how much time I needed to resolve my concerns, I tried few times to convince Novell guys on some of lists on opensuse.org to relax access to wiki, but it never changed. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 20:02:15 Rajko M. wrote:
Sincerely I was very reluctant to fill the form out, but I wanted to help on openSUSE wiki and at the end I created account. Knowing how much time I needed to resolve my concerns, I tried few times to convince Novell guys on some of lists on opensuse.org to relax access to wiki, but it never changed.
I'm so reluctant I'm not going to do it. ;-) Well, here's to hoping that someone at Novell/SuSE puts the "open" back into "open[source|suse]". I have to say I am a bit chapped at trying to contribute a useful bug report only to be turned away by a closed bugzilla. :-( Regards, Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
There is absolutely *NO* need for Novell to require my phone number or physical address so I can report a bug.
So, what's the concern? If I run across some idiotic site like that, I just put in a fake number and address, then proceed. The purpose is to report a bug, not to give them your personal info. I also have a couple of Yahoo and gmail accounts that I can use for email reference if I am concerned about getting spammed. Identity theft prevention is up to you. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 07 February 2007 08:04:10 Stevens wrote:
So, what's the concern? If I run across some idiotic site like that, I just put in a fake number and address, then proceed. The purpose is to report a bug, not to give them your personal info. I also have a couple of Yahoo and gmail accounts that I can use for email reference if I am concerned about getting spammed.
I could do that, but it strikes me as dishonest (justifiable?). Plus, it is easier to remember the truth. ;-) If this were an idiotic site (like ibm or NYTimes) that requires me to login to read an article, then I may fudge some info. That is not the type of relationship I want to have my open source OS distributor. My *perception* is that Novell's coporate culture is killing the open in opensuse, and that is unfortunate, IMO, as this is generally a great distro. Regards, Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 07 February 2007 13:04, Mark A. Taff wrote:
I could do that, but it strikes me as dishonest (justifiable?). Plus, it is easier to remember the truth. ;-)
What's to remember? The form requires input; on many forms I use periods (.) if it is an alpha field and 123-456-7890 if it is looking for a tel number (US). This lets the person looking at the bug report know that my number is none of his/her business. Sometimes the street name is mindyourownbusiness or restricted info drive.
If this were an idiotic site (like ibm or NYTimes) that requires me to login to read an article, then I may fudge some info. That is not the type of relationship I want to have my open source OS distributor.
Hmmm... in many "relasionships" nowdays, someone is getting screwed. Seriously, obscuring one's personal data is not the same as being a butthead.. well, maybe a little, but since no one needs the info, they shouldn't ask for it in the first place.
My *perception* is that Novell's coporate culture is killing the open in opensuse, and that is unfortunate, IMO, as this is generally a great distro.
Yes it is: corp mgmt killing the "open" and Suse being a great distro. Ciao -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 05 February 2007, Rajko M. wrote:
In this respect bugzilla is much more restrictive. The name of bug reporter is visible only to logged in users, not to search engines.
Well that's have the problem isn't it! Why should one have to know about and log into specific servers to find out about bugs. Google does this so much better. If this list can obfuscate email addresses in the archives why can't bugzilla? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 01:28:36 -0900, John Andersen <jsa@pen.homeip.net> took time to say the following: (^_^)On Monday 05 February 2007, Rajko M. wrote: (^_^)> In this respect bugzilla is much more restrictive. The name of bug reporter is (^_^)> visible only to logged in users, not to search engines. (^_^) (^_^)Well that's have the problem isn't it! (^_^) (^_^)Why should one have to know about and log into specific (^_^)servers to find out about bugs. Google does this so much (^_^)better. (^_^) (^_^)If this list can obfuscate email addresses in the archives (^_^)why can't bugzilla? (^_^) (^_^)-- (^_^)_____________________________________ (^_^)John Andersen Have to ask ask the question that is begging to be asked. :-) Why not just get/use a service like hotmail/yahoo/gmail then? Although it is still possible to find out where the message came from and so forth. <shrug> Don't even have to use your real name. There really isn't no such thing as being unknown and so forth on the internet. Contrary to popular belief. Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like. -Will Rogers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 06 February 2007, Charles R. Buchanan wrote:
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 01:28:36 -0900, John Andersen <jsa@pen.homeip.net> took time to say the following:
(^_^)On Monday 05 February 2007, Rajko M. wrote: (^_^)> In this respect bugzilla is much more restrictive. The name of bug reporter is (^_^)> visible only to logged in users, not to search engines. (^_^) (^_^)Well that's have the problem isn't it! (^_^) (^_^)Why should one have to know about and log into specific (^_^)servers to find out about bugs. Google does this so much (^_^)better. (^_^) (^_^)If this list can obfuscate email addresses in the archives (^_^)why can't bugzilla? (^_^) (^_^)-- (^_^)_____________________________________ (^_^)John Andersen
Have to ask ask the question that is begging to be asked. :-) Why not just get/use a service like hotmail/yahoo/gmail then?
The real problem is not that anyone here seriously worries about anonymity. Rajko (i think it was he) complained about that, but I suggest he was more put off by the fact he used his valuable time to try to help Novell (free of charge), and in return they wanted a list of all his warts, tattoos and birth-marks on color glossy photographs with circles and arrows. And god help you if you forget your password to your bugzilla account, its easier to break into an on-line banking site. And after all of that you STILL can't find the problem reports because the bugzilla search is so lame, and Google/Yahoo is not allowed to crawl the site! On the thread titled "Novell Please make Bugzilla for OpenSuse really Open" I suggested that bugzilla should be indexed by google, and got no response other than from one suse worker complaining about how slow the server was and google would only bog it down more (which by the way is totally not true, google's crawlers go out of their way to impose a light load). -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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