
Again, I'm a newbie on SuSe....I have a dual boot with about 10gigs alocated to windows 98. With Mandrake I could mount the windows partition with a file manager and manipulate files, put docs from open office into "My Documents" on the windows partition. With SuSe, I chose the default installation which boots windows fine. However, 2 things different: 1-there was no /home partition created-is this weird or do I just make a folder for /Home. 2-under /mnt there is no windows partition listed. Is it somewhere else? I know its there cuz I can boot to it? Bear with us newbs Doug

On Thursday 30 January 2003 19:33, Doug Weeks wrote:
Again, I'm a newbie on SuSe....I have a dual boot with about 10gigs alocated to windows 98. With Mandrake I could mount the windows partition with a file manager and manipulate files, put docs from open office into "My Documents" on the windows partition. With SuSe, I chose the default installation which boots windows fine. However, 2 things different: 1-there was no /home partition created-is this weird or do I just make a folder for /Home. 2-under /mnt there is no windows partition listed. Is it somewhere else? I know its there cuz I can boot to it?
If you open /etc/fstab in a text editor (as root) then you'll see it listed. One of the options will be noauto. You can either change that to auto, or mount it manually. see man fstab and man mount for more details Dylan
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On Thursday 30 January 2003 2:33 pm, Doug Weeks wrote:
Again, I'm a newbie on SuSe....I have a dual boot with about 10gigs alocated to windows 98. With Mandrake I could mount the windows partition with a file manager and manipulate files, put docs from open office into "My Documents" on the windows partition. With SuSe, I chose the default installation which boots windows fine. However, 2 things different: 1-there was no /home partition created-is this weird or do I just make a folder for /Home. 2-under /mnt there is no windows partition listed. Is it somewhere else? I know its there cuz I can boot to it? Bear with us newbs Doug Doug welcome to SuSE, You're /home is simply part of the root partiton if you accepted the installer's default option for partitioning, so there doesn't need to be a home in fstab.
in fstab add (if one doesn't already exist) /dev/hda6 /Windows/F vfat noauto,user,rw,exec 0 0 you can change the /Windows/F to whatever you want, just make sure to add the dir for the mount point. If you use kde, you can right click on the desktop > select create new > hard disk. Under properties there should be a choice for /windows/ or for /dev/hd?? Now you have an link to the windows partition when you need it. You can change the fstab entry from noauto to auto if you want it mounted every time you log on. -- Franklin Maurer nebbish@sprynet.com SuSE 8.1

On Thursday 30 January 2003 3:58 pm, Franklin Maurer wrote:
in fstab add (if one doesn't already exist) /dev/hda6 /Windows/F vfat noauto,user,rw,exec 0 0
Sorry you also need to change /dev/hda6 to whatever your windows partion is. If you're unsure check in yast2>system>partitoner, find the info then abort out of it. It's probably hda1, but that's just a guess. -- Franklin Maurer nebbish@sprynet.com SuSE 8.1

Franklin Maurer wrote:
On Thursday 30 January 2003 2:33 pm, Doug Weeks wrote:
Again, I'm a newbie on SuSe....I have a dual boot with about 10gigs alocated to windows 98. With Mandrake I could mount the windows partition with a file manager and manipulate files, put docs from open office into "My Documents" on the windows partition. With SuSe, I chose the default installation which boots windows fine. However, 2 things different: 1-there was no /home partition created-is this weird or do I just make a folder for /Home. 2-under /mnt there is no windows partition listed. Is it somewhere else? I know its there cuz I can boot to it? Bear with us newbs Doug
Doug welcome to SuSE, You're /home is simply part of the root partiton if you accepted the installer's default option for partitioning, so there doesn't need to be a home in fstab.
in fstab add (if one doesn't already exist) /dev/hda6 /Windows/F vfat noauto,user,rw,exec 0 0
you can change the /Windows/F to whatever you want, just make sure to add the dir for the mount point. If you use kde, you can right click on the desktop > select create new > hard disk. Under properties there should be a choice for /windows/ or for /dev/hd?? Now you have an link to the windows partition when you need it.
You can change the fstab entry from noauto to auto if you want it mounted every time you log on.
Thanks Franklin for the help! I did that with the line /dev/hda1 /windows vfat nonauto,user,rw,exec 0 0 in the /etc/fstab and made the link on the kde desktop but get the error message: [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab mont: mount point /windows does not exist ???????????????? Any ideas, what is a final newline, I know it exist cause I checked the partitions Doug

On Thursday 30 January 2003 7:57 pm, Doug Weeks wrote:
and made the link on the kde desktop but get the error message: [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
Any ideas, what is a final newline, I know it exist cause I checked the partitions
"newline" is Unix's fancy way of saying "enter" [carraige return] -- it is actually pretty tough to NOT have a final "newline" in a file because most people's tendancy is to press <enter> after adding stuff to a file, even if only one line. If you used something like "vi", however I can see how this could happen -- you run the cursor to the end of the file, press the letter "A" for "append (at the end of the line since this is an upper case 'a')", pressed "<enter>" to get to the start of the new line, type in the stuff you want to add, then BEFORE actually pressing <enter> again, you press <esc> to get out of insert/append mode, then colon (:) to get a command line, and "wq" to write-and-quit. If you look at the resulting file at the bit-n-byte level, you'll see that (basically) the last character in the file is NOT "0x0D" [hex for character 13 -- a carraige return] [or is it "0x0A", line feed? I can never remember whether it is DOS or Unix that really wants both characters CR and LF to specify a "new line"] and that is what mount is complaining about.

Tom Emerson <osnut@pacbell.net> writes:
"newline" is Unix's fancy way of saying "enter" [carraige return] -- it is actually pretty tough to NOT have a final "newline" in a file because most people's tendancy is to press <enter> after adding stuff to a file, even if only one line.
If you used something like "vi", however I can see how this could happen -- you run the cursor to the end of the file, press the letter "A" for "append (at the end of the line since this is an upper case 'a')", pressed "<enter>" to get to the start of the new line, type in the stuff you want to add, then BEFORE actually pressing <enter> again, you press <esc> to get out of insert/append mode, then colon (:) to get a command line, and "wq" to write-and-quit.
vi (and its clones) is a text editor which preserves backward compatibility with the traditional Unix text files and therefore it automatically adds the newline ('\n') character at the end of the text file. It doesn't matter whether the user presses <Enter> or not. Other text editors often don't add newline automatically. It was a must in the past because many text oriented utilities (sed, ...) didn't process the last line if newline was missing. GNU text utilities don't have this limitation. Anyway, I suggest that people check what they write about. This is my second e-mail today which corrects a wrong statement and I've noticed there are more misleading emails in this list. -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se

On Thursday 30 January 2003 07:57 pm, Doug Weeks wrote:
Franklin Maurer wrote: ------------snip--------------
you can change the /Windows/F to whatever you want, just make sure to add the dir for the mount point. If you use kde, you can right click on the desktop > select create new > hard disk. Under properties there should be a choice for /windows/ or for /dev/hd?? Now you have an link to the windows partition when you need it.
You can change the fstab entry from noauto to auto if you want it mounted every time you log on.
Thanks Franklin for the help! I did that with the line /dev/hda1 /windows vfat nonauto,user,rw,exec 0 0 in the /etc/fstab and made the link on the kde desktop but get the error message: [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab mont: mount point /windows does not exist ???????????????? Any ideas, what is a final newline, I know it exist cause I checked the partitions
It's kind of hard to describe but here goes. when you edit your /etc/fstab at some point you come to a final line of text (the last sentence). If you don't press return at the end of this sentence then you will get the error you mention. "No final newline" So just open the file in your editor again and press enter at the end of the last sentence. HTH -- dh Don't shop at GoogleGear.com!

* Doug Weeks <fourweeks.vet@mindspring.com> [01-30-03 22:58]:
Franklin Maurer wrote:
On Thursday 30 January 2003 2:33 pm, Doug Weeks wrote:
Again, I'm a newbie on SuSe....I have a dual boot with about 10gigs alocated to windows 98. With Mandrake I could mount the windows partition with a file manager and manipulate files, put docs from open office into "My Documents" on the windows partition. With SuSe, I chose the default installation which boots windows fine. However, 2 things different: 1-there was no /home partition created-is this weird or do I just make a folder for /Home. 2-under /mnt there is no windows partition listed. Is it somewhere else? I know its there cuz I can boot to it?
in fstab add (if one doesn't already exist) /dev/hda6 /Windows/F vfat noauto,user,rw,exec 0 0
I did that with the line /dev/hda1 /windows vfat nonauto,user,rw,exec 0 0 in the /etc/fstab
look again at the example, your line should look: /dev/hda1 /windows/C vfat nonauto,user,rw,exec 0 0 and there needs to be another *empty* line below this. That *was* the last line in the /etc/fstab file, was it not? This is the warning, no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab. A *directory* also needs to exist in your system as: /windows/C ie: mkdir /windows/C Now on boot the system will look at the fstab file and see that you want to be able to access the first partition on the first hard drive from your directory /windows/C and will assign it there.
mont: mount point /windows does not exist ????????????????
mount point /windows does not exist because you do not have a *directory* /windows in your linux system. Above /windows/C. Linux is *very* particular and instructions that you are given will *not* succeed unless they are followed specifically, provided that they were correct <grin>. Your posts will be much easier to read if you change your *indent* character from ">" to "><space>" thats ">" + a space. -- Patrick Shanahan http://wahoo.no-ip.org Registered Linux User #207535 icq#173753138 @ http://counter.li.org

A *directory* also needs to exist in your system as: /windows/C ie: mkdir /windows/C yes first step
Hm-mm :) it's on graphics (under X) 2) next go to Yast2 -> System -> Partitioner (cl-k,cl-k,cl-k :) 3) and you receive next the message " Warning ..." - answer - yes 4) now is necessary to allocate yours in the list your W-ze disk 5) click button Edit (Re: Edit ) 6) field "Mount point" - write (type) /windows/C 7) Click button "Fstab Options" 8) Choose a necessary tag - "Mount in /etc/fstab" - device name ex.-l 9) Choose a necessary tag - "Mountable by user .. (or read only) .." 10) field "Arbitrary .. " -type umask=002 OK OK OK it's ALL good luck
* Doug Weeks <fourweeks.vet@mindspring.com> [01-30-03 22:58]:
Franklin Maurer wrote:
On Thursday 30 January 2003 2:33 pm, Doug Weeks wrote:
Again, I'm a newbie on SuSe....I have a dual boot with about 10gigs alocated to windows 98. With Mandrake I could mount the windows partition with a file manager and manipulate files, put docs from open office into "My Documents" on the windows partition. With SuSe, I chose the default installation which boots windows fine. However, 2 things different: 1-there was no /home partition created-is this weird or do I just make a folder for /Home. 2-under /mnt there is no windows partition listed. Is it somewhere else? I know its there cuz I can boot to it?
in fstab add (if one doesn't already exist) /dev/hda6 /Windows/F vfat noauto,user,rw,exec 0 0
I did that with the line /dev/hda1 /windows vfat nonauto,user,rw,exec 0 0 in the /etc/fstab
look again at the example, your line should look: /dev/hda1 /windows/C vfat nonauto,user,rw,exec 0 0
and there needs to be another *empty* line below this. That *was* the last line in the /etc/fstab file, was it not? This is the warning, no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab.
A *directory* also needs to exist in your system as: /windows/C ie: mkdir /windows/C
Now on boot the system will look at the fstab file and see that you want to be able to access the first partition on the first hard drive from your directory /windows/C and will assign it there.
mont: mount point /windows does not exist ????????????????
mount point /windows does not exist because you do not have a *directory* /windows in your linux system. Above /windows/C.
Linux is *very* particular and instructions that you are given will *not* succeed unless they are followed specifically, provided that they were correct <grin>.
Your posts will be much easier to read if you change your *indent* character from ">" to "><space>" thats ">" + a space.

In a previous message, Doug Weeks wrote:
1-there was no /home partition created
That's fine. SuSE defaults to creating only 2 partitions - root and swap. The root partition contains all the data (including apps etc.) and the swap partition is the memory swap area. You can fiddle to create separate partitions, but it's probably not worth it for most people.
2-under /mnt there is no windows partition listed. Is it somewhere else?
Again, SuSE defaults to mounting the windows partition under /windows. You *should* find that it's automatically mounted and visible on your desktop under KDE and Gnome (IIRC). If not, simply use Konqueror/Nautilus/whatever to open /windows and voila! Also, SuSE doesn't use the /mnt directory anyway! It defaults to mounting CDs, floppies etc. under /media. You might also find symlinks to the mount points in the root directory as /cdrom, /floppy etc. (ISTR that SuSE 7.3 did this, but my copy of SuSE 8.1 didn't). HTH John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Fields of Valour: 2 Norse clans battle on one of 3 different boards
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